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Post by toteend3 on Mar 8, 2020 12:29:48 GMT
Apologies in advance for another depressing thread, for the last three miserable years, it feels that life inside the gas bubble, has been replicated on the outside with Brexit, and no sooner than the dust has settled on that, it gets replaced with bat soup flu, so there seems to be no light at the end of the tunnel.
On the pitch we are thirteen points ahead of Tramere, our next three games are Sunderland, Ipswich and Peterborough. We will be lucky to grind out a point from those games , meanwhile Tramere (including game in hand) have matches against Blackpool, Lincoln, Rochdale and Wimbledon. Being on the conservative side say they pick up seven points.
Tramere would have halfed the points deficit doŵn to just seven points. With two very hard away games to come at Portsmouth and Oxford our run in considerably tougher than Tramere. As it stands, if this dire run of form was to continue we could be relegated, even before the end of the season.
Ironically the last match of the season is away at Gillingham who must be wetting themselves that we were the 'chosen ones' The Gas are currently 150/1 to be relegated, pretty good odds if you ask me.
Conspiracy theory, when we were taken over, we all believed in 'dreams can come true' and with the general feel good factor which had attracted thousands of new fans onboard and a humourous swipe at our neighbours by singing 'City were coming for you' So what went wrong, after a lot of stalling, the training ground never got developed, the UWE Stadium a nailed down certainty inexplicably fell through and two excellent promotion pushes were halted in their tracks. All seems to be making sense now - there is now only one team in Bristol - Just saying.
UTFG/STB
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 8, 2020 12:40:20 GMT
Apologies in advance for another depressing thread, for the last three miserable years, it feels that life inside the gas bubble, has been replicated on the outside with Brexit, and no sooner than the dust has settled on that, it gets replaced with bat soup flu, so there seems to be no light at the end of the tunnel. On the pitch we are thirteen points ahead of Tramere, our next three games are Sunderland, Ipswich and Peterborough. We will be lucky to grind out a point from those games , meanwhile Tramere (including game in hand) have matches against Blackpool, Lincoln, Rochdale and Wimbledon. Being on the conservative side say they pick up seven points. Tramere would have halfed the points deficit doŵn to just seven points. With two very hard away games to come at Portsmouth and Oxford our run in considerably tougher than Tramere. As it stands, if this dire run of form was to continue we could be relegated, even before the end of the season. Ironically the last match of the season is away at Gillingham who must be wetting themselves that we were the 'chosen ones' The Gas are currently 150/1 to be relegated, pretty good odds if you ask me. Conspiracy theory, when we were taken over, we all believed in 'dreams can come true' and with the general feel good factor which had attracted thousands of new fans onboard and a humourous swipe at our neighbours by singing 'City were coming for you' So what went wrong, after a lot of stalling, the training ground never got developed, the UWE Stadium a nailed down certainty inexplicably fell through and two excellent promotion pushes were halted in their tracks. All seems to be making sense now - there is now only one team in Bristol - Just saying. UTFG/STB You know it’s really bad when your red friends don’t even bother to rip the Mickey out of you.
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Post by toteend3 on Mar 8, 2020 14:38:56 GMT
With the massive disparity between the two owners the mega rich one who stepped up his game, when we started to wag our tail. So rich that he can buy, build and fund, with impunity all things Bristol Sport and will eventually leave a hell of a legacy south of the river. At the same time, having an influence in scuppering any ideas of grandeur we might have had. Whereas the apparently now very poor one continues with his 'smoke and mirrors' policy which seems to be putting us on a crash course off turning the Blue half of the city into the Blue quarter.
It's very true my s***head mates don't any more have any intercourse with me regarding City/ Rovers rivalry small talk as we now have become totally irrelevant.
If, as we might now get relegated all four of our local small rivals: Swindon, Cheltenham, Exeter and Plymouth could pass us going the other way - How embarressing is that!
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Post by eppinggas on Mar 8, 2020 21:08:29 GMT
There isn't any rivalry any more. We're going to be struggling at the wrong end of the third tier / 4th tier while the sh*t are knocking on the door of the premiersh*t. No bragging rights. No banter. No competition. They're not even taking the p*ss any more. Look at ashton gate. Look at our Family Stand. We're beyond parody.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2020 22:24:15 GMT
mates don't any more have any intercourse with me Tell me more of your conspiracy theory. The facts are so dreary. Let's have your thoughts, Sir.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Mar 9, 2020 9:09:51 GMT
There are alot of teams between Tranmere and ourselves. They can't all win because a huge chunk of those fixtures will be against teams around them.
I empathise with the o p, but after this season is done and dusted, GC will not just be regarded as one of the statistically best managers in any one year, he'll be credited for saving us from relegation twice..
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Post by Igitur on Mar 9, 2020 16:09:36 GMT
I keep trying to see the balance here. Sport is a cyclical thing one time you are up, Wales rugby, lots of footy sides, West Indies cricket and then you dip. In recent times BRFC have been to Wembley and the Millennium now Principality but also experienced relegations. My fear here is that fans are voting with their feet and may not come back.
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Post by swissgas on Mar 9, 2020 16:49:53 GMT
Like the OP I apologise in advance for what is a frightening thought but is it really rational to take the line "it is bad now but it will work out all right in the end because it always does" ?
We know in the past that Flook & Bradshaw made a rational decision to pass ownership of Rovers to the Dunfords for free, likewise Geoff effectively passed ownership to Nick because Nick was in a much better position to finance the club properly. And Nick, having got into a very tight financial position, managed to extricate himself and the other shareholders by passing ownership to Dwane Sports.
The reason for concern is because of serious doubts about whether Dwane Sports have acted rationally in their dealings with Rovers so far which means we have to face the possibility they may not do so when trying to find an exit route. When talking to people about our owners a common theme keeps cropping up which is " so and so won't deal with them" which gives the strong impression that the "culture difference" which Steve Hamer talked about in the early days is still there. I remember at the start Wael talked about the legal safeguards in Britain being one of the reasons for "investing" here but did he realize that those safeguards work both ways ? It is not possible to ride roughshod over institutions like Universities, Local Councils or the EFL to get your own way so what happens if you try and fail ?
If I were to present a future scenario of the gates of the Mem being locked, the club being forced out of the EFL and a complicated legal case on it's protracted way to eventual stalemate would you say I was being irrational ?
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Post by a more piratey game on Mar 9, 2020 17:30:57 GMT
If I were to present a future scenario of the gates of the Mem being locked, the club being forced out of the EFL and a complicated legal case on it's protracted way to eventual stalemate would you say I was being irrational ? what sort of legal case might you envisage please swiss?
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Post by a more piratey game on Mar 9, 2020 17:32:32 GMT
a common theme keeps cropping up which is " so and so won't deal with them" I have heard/read that about some at UWE, but no other counterparties that I can remember. Can anyone else think of any?
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Post by swissgas on Mar 9, 2020 19:26:57 GMT
If I were to present a future scenario of the gates of the Mem being locked, the club being forced out of the EFL and a complicated legal case on it's protracted way to eventual stalemate would you say I was being irrational ? what sort of legal case might you envisage please swiss? My guess would be cases relating to EFL regulations and/or to the redevelopment of the Mem.
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Post by toteend3 on Mar 9, 2020 19:35:48 GMT
mates don't any more have any intercourse with me Tell me more of your conspiracy theory. The facts are so dreary. Let's have your thoughts, Sir. Question 1 - Why did the firm (gasheads) contracted to fence off the training ground struggle to get paid, so early on there was absolutely no need for bad publicity. Question 2 - Why were we told time and time again, re aforementioned training ground to be patient, supposed planning issues? - these things take time! Question 3 - Why after all that deadlines have come and gone have we failed to commence development? Question 4 - Why is the first team training on a bog? Question 4 - Why did due diligence to establish viability on the UWE take so long? Question 5 - Why promise a new ground, when supporters (particularly the older fans) emphasise how vital the need is and not deliver? Question 5 - Why did the 'nailed down certainly' of the new stadium for the Rovers suddenly fall through? Question 6 - Why did DC stay, despite the obvious temptation of the Leeds vacancy, then feel he had to embark on crash course to ensure a well earned settlement? Question 7 - Why did we sell our Striker to our rivals when looking good for promotion when logic says he is not for sale, at any price until the end of the season? Question 8 - Why were we told that the Memorial Ground was not suitable for re development? Question 9 - Why were then told that the Memorial Ground is suitable for re development and updates on progress will follow - these things take time! still no updates! Question 10 - Why was GC told there was no money available in the transfer window when on an amazing run and looking good for promotion? Question 11 - Why was GC's management position undermined, once again logic tells you keep him on at all costs. Question 12 - Why take on new totally unproven manager who completely changes team tactics when a team is 4th in the league? Bearing in mind this is only a sample of the some of incomprehensible goings on? could somebody else be pulling the strings? UTFG/STB
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2020 20:58:52 GMT
Brother, you count like the Shadow Home Secretary.
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Post by toteend3 on Mar 9, 2020 21:55:12 GMT
Brother, you count like the Shadow Home Secretary. I should do as iam Jeremy Corbyn's love child and inherited her two left feet......
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Post by a more piratey game on Mar 10, 2020 7:25:08 GMT
what sort of legal case might you envisage please swiss? My guess would be cases relating to EFL regulations and/or to the redevelopment of the Mem. Interesting thought. Gotta hope they are not that stubborn I suppose
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Post by a more piratey game on Mar 10, 2020 7:26:26 GMT
a common theme keeps cropping up which is " so and so won't deal with them" I have heard/read that about some at UWE, but no other counterparties that I can remember. Can anyone else think of any? Maybe the KM switch, where he was said to be invited to board meetings but never came, is another example
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Post by alloutofgas on Mar 10, 2020 8:11:24 GMT
Apologies in advance for another depressing thread, for the last three miserable years, it feels that life inside the gas bubble, has been replicated on the outside with Brexit, and no sooner than the dust has settled on that, it gets replaced with bat soup flu, so there seems to be no light at the end of the tunnel. On the pitch we are thirteen points ahead of Tramere, our next three games are Sunderland, Ipswich and Peterborough. We will be lucky to grind out a point from those games , meanwhile Tramere (including game in hand) have matches against Blackpool, Lincoln, Rochdale and Wimbledon. Being on the conservative side say they pick up seven points. Tramere would have halfed the points deficit doŵn to just seven points. With two very hard away games to come at Portsmouth and Oxford our run in considerably tougher than Tramere. As it stands, if this dire run of form was to continue we could be relegated, even before the end of the season. Ironically the last match of the season is away at Gillingham who must be wetting themselves that we were the 'chosen ones' The Gas are currently 150/1 to be relegated, pretty good odds if you ask me. Conspiracy theory, when we were taken over, we all believed in 'dreams can come true' and with the general feel good factor which had attracted thousands of new fans onboard and a humourous swipe at our neighbours by singing 'City were coming for you' So what went wrong, after a lot of stalling, the training ground never got developed, the UWE Stadium a nailed down certainty inexplicably fell through and two excellent promotion pushes were halted in their tracks. All seems to be making sense now - there is now only one team in Bristol - Just saying. UTFG/STB Brexit is wonderful.
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Post by lostinspace on Mar 10, 2020 21:54:22 GMT
There are alot of teams between Tranmere and ourselves. They can't all win because a huge chunk of those fixtures will be against teams around them. I empathise with the o p, but after this season is done and dusted, GC will not just be regarded as one of the statistically best managers in any one year, he'll be credited for saving us from relegation twice.. TRFC Remaining fixtures Lincoln, AFC Wimbles Donny' Rochdale MKDons Rotherham Gills Oxford Fleetwood Posh
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Post by a more piratey game on Mar 10, 2020 21:56:32 GMT
Someone just lit a candle at the end of the tunnel. It's a bit windy though, so it might blow out
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on Mar 10, 2020 22:45:58 GMT
Apologies in advance for another depressing thread, for the last three miserable years, it feels that life inside the gas bubble, has been replicated on the outside with Brexit, and no sooner than the dust has settled on that, it gets replaced with bat soup flu, so there seems to be no light at the end of the tunnel. On the pitch we are thirteen points ahead of Tramere, our next three games are Sunderland, Ipswich and Peterborough. We will be lucky to grind out a point from those games , meanwhile Tramere (including game in hand) have matches against Blackpool, Lincoln, Rochdale and Wimbledon. Being on the conservative side say they pick up seven points. Tramere would have halfed the points deficit doŵn to just seven points. With two very hard away games to come at Portsmouth and Oxford our run in considerably tougher than Tramere. As it stands, if this dire run of form was to continue we could be relegated, even before the end of the season. Ironically the last match of the season is away at Gillingham who must be wetting themselves that we were the 'chosen ones' The Gas are currently 150/1 to be relegated, pretty good odds if you ask me. Conspiracy theory, when we were taken over, we all believed in 'dreams can come true' and with the general feel good factor which had attracted thousands of new fans onboard and a humourous swipe at our neighbours by singing 'City were coming for you' So what went wrong, after a lot of stalling, the training ground never got developed, the UWE Stadium a nailed down certainty inexplicably fell through and two excellent promotion pushes were halted in their tracks. All seems to be making sense now - there is now only one team in Bristol - Just saying. UTFG/STB Brexit is wonderful. For the rich, for Little Britain Xenophobes and for morons like Milk Shake Man, Pinocchio and Little Lord Fauntleroy. For everyone else it will be an unmitigated disaster. Come back in a couple of years time and tell us if you still think its wonderful when you are paying £5 a punnet for your strawberries and when there are no horrible Europeans to care for you if you are ill or wipe your arse if you are in a care home.
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