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Post by fanatical on Mar 6, 2020 13:41:52 GMT
How very honest of Tom to announce that because the saving of almost half of a £three and a half million loss in one season is quite remarkable, no doubt some of Tom's efforts will help but the decline in support we are seeing recently is surely a negative? But also, as an owner of businesses in several Countries for over 40 years That sounds like gratuitous self aggrandisement to me no, just for the sake of giving some background as to why I hold the view I do - sorry if that offends you Surely better than quoting a view without qualification? I have said before on the forums, I think we should all be honest about who we are and what our experience is, rather than posting anonymous (by now everyone should know who I am, and the small part I have played in BRFC) - and to further answer your point there are many others on here who have a much more illustrious background than me, and personally, I like to read their posts.
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Post by a more piratey game on Mar 6, 2020 13:44:22 GMT
That sounds like gratuitous self aggrandisement to me no, just for the sake of giving some background as to why I hold the view I do - sorry if that offends you Surely better than quoting a view without qualification? I have said before on the forums, I think we should all be honest about who we are and what our experience is, rather than posting anonymous (by now everyone should know who I am, and the small part I have played in BRFC) - and to further answer your point there are many others on here who have a much more illustrious background than me, and personally, I like to read their posts. it doesn't offend me, but I think it makes you look pompous and needy 'from my own experience' would have been sufficient to make the point
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Post by a more piratey game on Mar 6, 2020 13:47:44 GMT
no, just for the sake of giving some background as to why I hold the view I do - sorry if that offends you Surely better than quoting a view without qualification? I have said before on the forums, I think we should all be honest about who we are and what our experience is, rather than posting anonymous (by now everyone should know who I am, and the small part I have played in BRFC) - and to further answer your point there are many others on here who have a much more illustrious background than me, and personally, I like to read their posts. it doesn't offend me, but I think it makes you look pompous and needy 'from my own experience' would have been sufficient to make the point further, I think the pomposity implicit in it reveals that you think you have a better right to make assertions on here than others, or feel that your assertions should be taken more seriously given the weight of your experience but I think the latter - that lack of substantiation of the assertions, combined with the neediness, means that what you have to say ranges between poorly-argued and groundless, so that it's good to call it out as such
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Post by a more piratey game on Mar 6, 2020 13:49:07 GMT
it doesn't offend me, but I think it makes you look pompous and needy 'from my own experience' would have been sufficient to make the point further, I think the pomposity implicit in it reveals that you think you have a better right to make assertions on here than others, or feel that your assertions should be taken more seriously given the weight of your experience but I think the latter - that lack of substantiation of the assertions, combined with the neediness, means that what you have to say ranges between poorly-argued and groundless, so that it's good to call it out as such and, while we're here, I'll add that your poor manners on here (which I've highlighted previously) reinforce that same impression
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Post by fanatical on Mar 6, 2020 13:55:37 GMT
How very honest of Tom to announce that because the saving of almost half of a £three and a half million loss in one season is quite remarkable, no doubt some of Tom's efforts will help but the decline in support we are seeing recently is surely a negative? But also, as an owner of businesses in several Countries for over 40 years, I know that a culling of staff is often the only, and quickest way to reduce losses and return to profit. However, that has an effect, and while we know of course that there was an attempt in January to sell our striker, will we see in the summer the departure of our most valuable players? It concerns me that our Club should consider that an annual loss of £two million is acceptable and surely even that cannot be sustainable? So what else is in the pipeline? Whilst I find Tom's announcement interesting, I would be further interested to hear what the actual plan is? I didn't read anyone say that the loss is acceptable. So more of your agenda driven misinformation I feel The fact that Tom said 'not to worry because in 2020 it would only be £2 million' sounded like an acceptance that a loss of £2 million is ok?
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Post by fanatical on Mar 6, 2020 14:02:36 GMT
no, just for the sake of giving some background as to why I hold the view I do - sorry if that offends you Surely better than quoting a view without qualification? I have said before on the forums, I think we should all be honest about who we are and what our experience is, rather than posting anonymous (by now everyone should know who I am, and the small part I have played in BRFC) - and to further answer your point there are many others on here who have a much more illustrious background than me, and personally, I like to read their posts. it doesn't offend me, but I think it makes you look pompous and needy 'from my own experience' would have been sufficient to make the point Perhaps, in future I should send my proposed post to you beforehand so as not to offend or appear pompous? Incidentally, I am sure others will testify that I am far from pompous, and more importantly, that I care passionately what happens to BRFC.
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Post by fanatical on Mar 6, 2020 14:12:02 GMT
further, I think the pomposity implicit in it reveals that you think you have a better right to make assertions on here than others, or feel that your assertions should be taken more seriously given the weight of your experience but I think the latter - that lack of substantiation of the assertions, combined with the neediness, means that what you have to say ranges between poorly-argued and groundless, so that it's good to call it out as such and, while we're here, I'll add that your poor manners on here (which I've highlighted previously) reinforce that same impression I am saddened that you interpret what I put as offensive, pompous, and needless bad manners, but in my experience it is helpful to give weight to an opinion if you give the reader some indication as to why you hold a particular viewpoint. For instance a rich man might have a different viewpoint to a poor man and both will have their own view due to their own background and experience, so I think it is useful to know why a person might hold a particular view.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2020 14:33:53 GMT
It just sounds patronising now, Fanatical.
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Post by a more piratey game on Mar 6, 2020 14:42:11 GMT
It just sounds patronising now, Fanatical. No change there then
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