harrybuckle
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Post by harrybuckle on Feb 10, 2020 17:20:12 GMT
Got my doubts if Tranmere match will be played Storm flooding etc and there is QUCKSAND in both penalty areas we don't want to lose JCH
14 matches in a season without a win done three times before 1965/66, 1980/81 and 2001/02 so Tranmere will equal this dismal run
No manager has failed to win to this extent from taking over. Not even DC !
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Feb 10, 2020 17:27:00 GMT
So I'm guessing 14 matches without a win is the club record?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2020 18:07:30 GMT
If this game goes ahead tomorrow we'll win comfortably.
Their last 5 League games, LLLLL. Goals for 1, against 10.
Right now they are even worse than Bolton and Southend.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2020 18:16:25 GMT
If this game goes ahead tomorrow we'll win comfortably. Their last 5 League games, LLLLL. Goals for 1, against 10. Right now they are even worse than Bolton and Southend. I think I was there when we broke that run in 1966. I think we beat Grimsby 2-1, Roger Frude scored a very late winner. Just saying.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2020 18:53:55 GMT
If this game goes ahead tomorrow we'll win comfortably. Their last 5 League games, LLLLL. Goals for 1, against 10. Right now they are even worse than Bolton and Southend. I think I was there when we broke that run in 1966. I think we beat Grimsby 2-1, Roger Frude scored a very late winner. Just saying. I wanted to go, but my 5th Birthday party clashed.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2020 18:55:48 GMT
I think I was there when we broke that run in 1966. I think we beat Grimsby 2-1, Roger Frude scored a very late winner. Just saying. I wanted to go, but my 5th Birthday party clashed. So you were not there for that one either!! (Just kidding)
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Post by droitwichgas on Feb 10, 2020 18:56:09 GMT
If this game goes ahead tomorrow we'll win comfortably. Their last 5 League games, LLLLL. Goals for 1, against 10. Right now they are even worse than Bolton and Southend. But so are we on current form, in fact over 10 games we're the worse in L1: thefishy.co.uk/formtable.php?table=4&season=17
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2020 19:04:39 GMT
I wanted to go, but my 5th Birthday party clashed. So you were not there for that one either!! (Just kidding) Bloody part timers, eh.
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Post by c4h10 on Feb 10, 2020 21:51:50 GMT
If this game goes ahead tomorrow we'll win comfortably. Their last 5 League games, LLLLL. Goals for 1, against 10. Right now they are even worse than Bolton and Southend. I think I was there when we broke that run in 1966. I think we beat Grimsby 2-1, Roger Frude scored a very late winner.Just saying. Is Roger available for tomorrow?
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Post by harrybuckle on Feb 11, 2020 8:10:00 GMT
I think I was there when we broke that run in 1966. I think we beat Grimsby 2-1, Roger Frude scored a very late winner.Just saying. Is Roger available for tomorrow? His spirit maybe...funnily enough in his will following his death he instructed his family to scatter his ashes in the penalty area of the Tote End where he scored most of his goals. He is now somewhere near the café in Ikea the smell of those Swedish sausages are putting him off scoring more goals !
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Post by harrybuckle on Feb 11, 2020 8:11:13 GMT
So I'm guessing 14 matches without a win is the club record? 14 in the same season yes but 20 covering two seasons.
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Post by eppinggas on Feb 11, 2020 9:25:12 GMT
If this game goes ahead tomorrow we'll win comfortably. Their last 5 League games, LLLLL. Goals for 1, against 10. Right now they are even worse than Bolton and Southend. In the battle of the 2 worst form teams in the division (over 6, 8 and 10 games home and away)... "If" it goes ahead on that pudding of a pitch... I can see us getting muscled out of it as we try and play tippy tappy in the mud. Bookies tend to agree. Trannie generally slight favourites around 6/4, the Gas more like 2-1. For anyone making the trip. I can but applaud you.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2020 11:31:54 GMT
If this game goes ahead tomorrow we'll win comfortably. Their last 5 League games, LLLLL. Goals for 1, against 10. Right now they are even worse than Bolton and Southend. In the battle of the 2 worst form teams in the division (over 6, 8 and 10 games home and away)... "If" it goes ahead on that pudding of a pitch... I can see us getting muscled out of it as we try and play tippy tappy in the mud. Bookies tend to agree. Trannie generally slight favourites around 6/4, the Gas more like 2-1. For anyone making the trip. I can but applaud you. The day that book makers set odds that do anything other than give the book maker the best chance of getting wealthier is the day I eat my hat.
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Post by eppinggas on Feb 11, 2020 12:58:22 GMT
In the battle of the 2 worst form teams in the division (over 6, 8 and 10 games home and away)... "If" it goes ahead on that pudding of a pitch... I can see us getting muscled out of it as we try and play tippy tappy in the mud. Bookies tend to agree. Trannie generally slight favourites around 6/4, the Gas more like 2-1. For anyone making the trip. I can but applaud you. The day that book makers set odds that do anything other than give the book maker the best chance of getting wealthier is the day I eat my hat. Bookies always win because they run balanced books. The odds (apart from the initial pricing) are effectively set by punters. These odds are reflected across dozens (if not 100's these days) of bookies. The reason I refer to bookies odds is because this represents real people putting real money where their collective mouths are. For this reason, I find them interesting.
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Post by a more piratey game on Feb 11, 2020 13:05:45 GMT
If this game goes ahead tomorrow we'll win comfortably. Their last 5 League games, LLLLL. Goals for 1, against 10. Right now they are even worse than Bolton and Southend. In the battle of the 2 worst form teams in the division (over 6, 8 and 10 games home and away)... "If" it goes ahead on that pudding of a pitch... I can see us getting muscled out of it as we try and play tippy tappy in the mud. Team selection should be easy - line them all up and pick the biggest 11 we've got
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Post by billyocean on Feb 11, 2020 13:21:25 GMT
I was always disappointed that I never got more than 100-1 on Tom Nichols to score a hat trick in a league game, often only 80-1. The odds should have been much more generous. The only time I got something back was when he didn't play.
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Post by syg on Feb 11, 2020 13:53:44 GMT
The day that book makers set odds that do anything other than give the book maker the best chance of getting wealthier is the day I eat my hat. Bookies always win because they run balanced books. The odds (apart from the initial pricing) are effectively set by punters. These odds are reflected across dozens (if not 100's these days) of bookies. The reason I refer to bookies odds is because this represents real people putting real money where their collective mouths are. For this reason, I find them interesting. Worked for a bookies for a while and spoke to the odds setters a few times. The prices are simply a reflection of where the money goes, this is why you can find value. Brazil to beat England at 5/6 about 12 years ago, piles of patriotic cash on England. Tennis seems to be the one you can make money, if you do thorough research, so many books now that the initial prices have to have errors. But... Never touch your own team.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2020 14:53:56 GMT
Bookies always win because they run balanced books. The odds (apart from the initial pricing) are effectively set by punters. These odds are reflected across dozens (if not 100's these days) of bookies. The reason I refer to bookies odds is because this represents real people putting real money where their collective mouths are. For this reason, I find them interesting. Worked for a bookies for a while and spoke to the odds setters a few times. The prices are simply a reflection of where the money goes, this is why you can find value. Brazil to beat England at 5/6 about 12 years ago, piles of patriotic cash on England. Tennis seems to be the one you can make money, if you do thorough research, so many books now that the initial prices have to have errors. But... Never touch your own team. Don't understand your point. Brazil were more likely to beat an over-hyped England team, objective bookmakers knew that and the odds reflected it. If your logic was correct, all of the money would have gone onto England and Brazil would have ended up at something like 10-1. Bookmakers take advantage of people who think that they understand the system and how odds work. Even if somebody does, somehow, work out a winning formula, The House won't pay, just ask Phil Ivey.
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Post by eppinggas on Feb 11, 2020 17:07:45 GMT
Worked for a bookies for a while and spoke to the odds setters a few times. The prices are simply a reflection of where the money goes, this is why you can find value. Brazil to beat England at 5/6 about 12 years ago, piles of patriotic cash on England. Tennis seems to be the one you can make money, if you do thorough research, so many books now that the initial prices have to have errors. But... Never touch your own team. Don't understand your point. Brazil were more likely to beat an over-hyped England team, objective bookmakers knew that and the odds reflected it.If your logic was correct, all of the money would have gone onto England and Brazil would have ended up at something like 10-1. Bookmakers take advantage of people who think that they understand the system and how odds work. Even if somebody does, somehow, work out a winning formula, The House won't pay, just ask Phil Ivey. Bambi - are you deliberately being obtuse? The bookies would have had NO risk going into that Brazil / England game. Stupid patriotic punters would have been putting £5, £10, £20 on an England win. Betting is a global industry however. So despite the heavy backing of England (by largely the English), this would have been off-set by professional gamblers and punters in France, Germany, Brazil etc putting money on the draw or a Brazil win. The bookies don't "know" anything. No-body "knows" the outcome of future events. However large numbers of people putting money where their mouth is, and the odds then adjusting to reflect that - is usually a good indicator of what the future may hold.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2020 17:13:13 GMT
Bambi - are you deliberately being obtuse? Bambi? Deliberately obtuse?
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