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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2020 17:46:45 GMT
All the years that mccanthony has been in charge they have played football as it should be played. Attacking with plenty of width as well as lots of goals. That is my main view of the man,because i have seen it with my own eyes.
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Post by eppinggas on May 19, 2020 20:46:21 GMT
All the years that mccanthony has been in charge they have played football as it should be played. Attacking with plenty of width as well as lots of goals. That is my main view of the man,because i have seen it with my own eyes. As has been discussed previously, I don't have a problem with the style of football played by Peterborough. Off the pitch - if you're happy with the way that Darragh MacAnthony behaves as an owner - fair enough. He's looking to kill off Clubs like Bristol Rovers FC. Well done you.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2020 23:37:32 GMT
All the years that mccanthony has been in charge they have played football as it should be played. Attacking with plenty of width as well as lots of goals. That is my main view of the man,because i have seen it with my own eyes. As has been discussed previously, I don't have a problem with the style of football played by Peterborough. Off the pitch - if you're happy with the way that Darragh MacAnthony behaves as an owner - fair enough. He's looking to kill off Clubs like Bristol Rovers FC. Well done you. Really? based on what? As you know we want to complete the season as do peterborough. Why would peterborough want to kill off a team they nearly always beat,always finish above and manage to sell us crap players for decent money?
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Post by laughinggas on May 20, 2020 7:05:45 GMT
Peterborough want a 8 team play off for the final promotion place. What happened to integrity etc. This is just about giving them a chance of going up. Once up Oh yes Prem 2 will be high on his agenda.
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Post by Peter Parker on May 20, 2020 7:45:25 GMT
In other news Swindle gonna Swindle
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Post by Rex on May 20, 2020 7:57:22 GMT
I think there is a case for combining the Conference and League Two, but is regionalisation going to solve anything? What percentage of expenditure for clubs at that level is spent on away travel? If costs reduced, what is to stop the reduction being frittered away on agent fees and player wages? If the aim is to ensure clubs remain solvent then salary caps would seem a much more effective measure. Rich owners, like the backer at Salford have would still be able to make capital investments in infrastructure with a view to increasing turnover (and the amount a club can spend on wages) but obviously this growth would be sustainable. The other issue I have with a geographical split is that it's not always easy to ensure a fair split. Gloucester City were in the Conference North for a number of years and they are only 25 miles North of Bristol. I would guess there would be a number of clubs just south of the midlands who could find themselves with a long trip every week. I agree. I think the regionalisation aspect is a bit of a distraction. Any gains will be maginal compared with other steps that could be taken around governance rules and salary caps etc.
I think regionalisation is only worthwhile in semi professional leagues where travelling midweek becomes a problem for a player with a 'real' job. I suspect many of us know players who have stepped down a level because of travel issues. I cannot see any argument for it in a full time professional league.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2020 9:25:51 GMT
I agree. I think the regionalisation aspect is a bit of a distraction. Any gains will be maginal compared with other steps that could be taken around governance rules and salary caps etc.
I think regionalisation is only worthwhile in semi professional leagues where travelling midweek becomes a problem for a player with a 'real' job. I suspect many of us know players who have stepped down a level because of travel issues. I cannot see any argument for it in a full time professional league. True Unless the economic realities are crystalised and the pay for players is no longer tenable at current levels in league 1 and below and outside occupations pay more. So it becomes semi pro.
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Post by Rex on May 20, 2020 13:50:50 GMT
I think regionalisation is only worthwhile in semi professional leagues where travelling midweek becomes a problem for a player with a 'real' job. I suspect many of us know players who have stepped down a level because of travel issues. I cannot see any argument for it in a full time professional league. True Unless the economic realities are crystalised and the pay for players is no longer tenable at current levels in league 1 and below and outside occupations pay more. So it becomes semi pro.That could well happen and has done in the past. A mate of mine who left Rovers and had offers from other pro clubs ended up going to Gloucester City, getting a 'normal' job as well and more than doubled his income.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2020 15:31:19 GMT
True Unless the economic realities are crystalised and the pay for players is no longer tenable at current levels in league 1 and below and outside occupations pay more. So it becomes semi pro.That could well happen and has done in the past. A mate of mine who left Rovers and had offers from other pro clubs ended up going to Gloucester City, getting a 'normal' job as well and more than doubled his income. I think this is inevitable. It cannot be tenable, surely, for players to expect owners to act in an economically incomprehensible way and blow their capital on wages for players. They really are not worth it.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2020 21:34:54 GMT
In other news Swindle gonna Swindle We've had ups and downs and spats between investors over the years, but Swindon seem to take it to a whole new level. One day they are going to have one of these situations and it won't magically sort itself out and they'll be the next Bury. You can't carry on running red lights, sooner or later your luck runs out.
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Post by eppinggas on May 21, 2020 8:30:36 GMT
I think there is a case for combining the Conference and League Two, but is regionalisation going to solve anything? What percentage of expenditure for clubs at that level is spent on away travel? If costs reduced, what is to stop the reduction being frittered away on agent fees and player wages? If the aim is to ensure clubs remain solvent then salary caps would seem a much more effective measure. Rich owners, like the backer at Salford have would still be able to make capital investments in infrastructure with a view to increasing turnover (and the amount a club can spend on wages) but obviously this growth would be sustainable. The other issue I have with a geographical split is that it's not always easy to ensure a fair split. Gloucester City were in the Conference North for a number of years and they are only 25 miles North of Bristol. I would guess there would be a number of clubs just south of the midlands who could find themselves with a long trip every week. I agree. I think the regionalisation aspect is a bit of a distraction. Any gains will be maginal compared with other steps that could be taken around governance rules and salary caps etc.
Yes Irish - I agree. The major issues are to do with governance and salary caps, neither of which the EFL has shown any inclination to look at. I think we'll see league re-structuring - of which regionalisation (certainly below tier 4) is surely a no-brainer.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on May 21, 2020 12:19:32 GMT
In other news Swindle gonna Swindle We've had ups and downs and spats between investors over the years, but Swindon seem to take it to a whole new level. One day they are going to have one of these situations and it won't magically sort itself out and they'll be the next Bury. You can't carry on running red lights, sooner or later your luck runs out. Hope so. Fingers crossed for them, eh? (All 11 of them)
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2020 12:45:43 GMT
We've had ups and downs and spats between investors over the years, but Swindon seem to take it to a whole new level. One day they are going to have one of these situations and it won't magically sort itself out and they'll be the next Bury. You can't carry on running red lights, sooner or later your luck runs out. Hope so. Fingers crossed for them, eh? (All 11 of them) At one time the local Council gave them something like half a million quid, I expect that money is long since lost. Complete basket case of a club. Having said all of that, our finances are beyond worrying right now, I'm not sure that Swindon have ever had the same level of debt that we have at present.
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Aug 11, 2020 18:48:43 GMT
Sad times. The playing staff there and various managers performed miracle after miracle, despite getting paid late or not paid at all. They, and Macclesfield’s fans, deserve better. The people who own the club, from what I’ve heard, don’t. Only ground worse than ours so hope we can build a new stand or something in place of one of the tents as a new Stadium still seems a very long way off or as you say in Bristol 'Off of'.
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Post by Curly Wurly on Aug 12, 2020 9:16:51 GMT
It is clearly the year of summary relegations being imposed. My knee jerk reaction is against the EFL for pursuing this, whilst being lenient in other cases - notably Bolton. However, the EFL did appeal the leniency of the penalty against Bolton and lost.
So one has to question the validity of the process. EFL rules set up an independent disciplinary commission. They pass judgement in these sort of cases and, increasingly, the EFL appeal the decision. Ultimately, decided by arbitration. Surely there is a need for some more rigour and clarity at the initial stage with the independent disciplinary panel? A decision needs to be made and abided by. The more the EFL appeal cases against clubs - decisions made by a panel set up by their own rules, the more they undermine their own process.
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Post by bluetornados on Aug 12, 2020 10:36:01 GMT
Sorry for Macclesfield, again the off field issues have done for yet another football club.
They romped the National League by 10 points just 3 seasons ago, just about stayed up last year and now down this season.
I fear they may not be coming back any time soon.
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 14, 2020 11:35:44 GMT
I feel sad for any club in those circumstances, just as I did when Barrow, Workington, Darlington, Hartlepool, Stockport, Bradford PA, etc went out of the league. I feel even more for the fans but unfortunately Macclesfield don’t have too many of those. I suspect the fans don’t have a sense of entitlement and will be used to the up-down nature of their existence. I might be wrong but I would imagine they would just like to support a well run football club. The way they’ve bounced between League 2 and the Conference make them a northern version of Barnet. Might be a bit harder to get back next season. Some serious teams in that league, but that in itself must make it a League that’s good to be part of. UTG!
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Post by basel on Aug 14, 2020 12:45:32 GMT
Bury FC won't even be in the non league scene next season having failed to convince the football authorities they're up to it.
A phoniex Fan owned club,AFC Bury have been accepted to a Northern League Division.
Divided.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2020 17:31:44 GMT
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