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Post by Peter Parker on Sept 2, 2019 12:55:23 GMT
talking about interest etc and the like regarding the Al-Qadi's.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 13:06:03 GMT
talking about interest etc and the like regarding the Al-Qadi's. Laughable. £40m of interest attracting debt as a starting point, with no players and strong possibility of L2 football next season. This is sure to end well.
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Post by lostinspace on Sept 2, 2019 22:03:23 GMT
Bolton shipped in 8 players today
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2019 1:17:13 GMT
talking about interest etc and the like regarding the Al-Qadi's. Laughable. £40m of interest attracting debt as a starting point, with no players and strong possibility of L2 football next season. This is sure to end well. Isn’t Sharon Brittan head of football ventures? I’m sure she just wanted to see the club back on it’s feet and the prospect of a 4% return was neither here nor there...
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 3, 2019 9:34:15 GMT
It’s all personal choice. I respect your view and feel very similar but it would make it much easier to go into admin if the crowds get worse as the owners can then rationalise it. I’m not anti Wael but I’m pro Rovers I often think that people don't understand what going in to administration actually is or why it happens. I’m sure you are right. I didn’t know until I read about it on here, when we were under NH. I think it was either you or Swiss who posted on it
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Post by GasMacc1 on Sept 4, 2019 14:54:15 GMT
Bolton shipped in 8 players today Now 9. Some of these players look quite good - how are Bolton able to sign and pay for them? Lucky Wycombe, Tranmere, Ipswich and Gillingham. (How did Coventry only draw up there?). Link to BBC Sport: Bolton Signings"Stoke winger Thibaud Verlinden, 20, has joined until January, as has Nottingham Forest midfielder Liam Bridcutt, 30. Northampton left-back Joe Bunney, 25, Ipswich right-back Josh Emmanuel, 22, Sheffield United centre-back Jake Wright, 33, and Doncaster's Ali Crawford, 28, have signed season loans. Daryl Murphy, 36, Chris O'Grady, 33, and Will Buckley, 29, have also joined".
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Post by jqgas on Sept 4, 2019 15:37:36 GMT
Bolton shipped in 8 players today Now 9. Some of these players look quite good - how are Bolton able to sign and pay for them? Lucky Wycombe, Tranmere, Ipswich and Gillingham. (How did Coventry only draw up there?). My thoughts precisely - these guys aren't exactly nonentities out of Southport and Chorley reserves. I can only assume that the loaning clubs are effectively having a whip-round for Bolton by paying the vast majority of their wages, but even so it seems like someone at Bolton has discovered a piggy bank they'd forgotten all about and has given it the old claw hammer.
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Post by JeffNZ on Sept 4, 2019 18:13:10 GMT
Now 9. Some of these players look quite good - how are Bolton able to sign and pay for them? Lucky Wycombe, Tranmere, Ipswich and Gillingham. (How did Coventry only draw up there?). My thoughts precisely - these guys aren't exactly nonentities out of Southport and Chorley reserves. I can only assume that the loaning clubs are effectively having a whip-round for Bolton by paying the vast majority of their wages, but even so it seems like someone at Bolton has discovered a piggy bank they'd forgotten all about and has given it the old claw hammer. So now we have a situation where those teams that played Bolton MkI mostly have three points and a significant addition to their goal difference, a massive advantage to those teams that will play Bolton MkII. Well played the EFL, what a bunch of twats.
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 4, 2019 19:35:17 GMT
Bolton shipped in 8 players today Now 9. Some of these players look quite good - how are Bolton able to sign and pay for them? Lucky Wycombe, Tranmere, Ipswich and Gillingham. (How did Coventry only draw up there?). Link to BBC Sport: Bolton Signings"Stoke winger Thibaud Verlinden, 20, has joined until January, as has Nottingham Forest midfielder Liam Bridcutt, 30. Northampton left-back Joe Bunney, 25, Ipswich right-back Josh Emmanuel, 22, Sheffield United centre-back Jake Wright, 33, and Doncaster's Ali Crawford, 28, have signed season loans. Daryl Murphy, 36, Chris O'Grady, 33, and Will Buckley, 29, have also joined". Agree. Some good players there and might be able to avoid relegation if they can gel early on. But the EFL have to rule on their refusal t9 play Doncaster and their failure to complete fixtures last season. Surely this will be a further deduction of points. The EFL will need to penalise them so they do get relegated. Can you imagine what the EFL will be faced with by any club that is relegated by goal difference if the club staying up played Bolton in August? Time will tell but next summer the EFL could be faced with a legal challenge from a club or even two. UTG!
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Post by lostinspace on Sept 4, 2019 21:23:20 GMT
Now 9. Some of these players look quite good - how are Bolton able to sign and pay for them? Lucky Wycombe, Tranmere, Ipswich and Gillingham. (How did Coventry only draw up there?). Link to BBC Sport: Bolton Signings"Stoke winger Thibaud Verlinden, 20, has joined until January, as has Nottingham Forest midfielder Liam Bridcutt, 30. Northampton left-back Joe Bunney, 25, Ipswich right-back Josh Emmanuel, 22, Sheffield United centre-back Jake Wright, 33, and Doncaster's Ali Crawford, 28, have signed season loans. Daryl Murphy, 36, Chris O'Grady, 33, and Will Buckley, 29, have also joined". Agree. Some good players there and might be able to avoid relegation if they can gel early on. But the EFL have to rule on their refusal t9 play Doncaster and their failure to complete fixtures last season. Surely this will be a further deduction of points. The EFL will need to penalise them so they do get relegated. Can you imagine what the EFL will be faced with by any club that is relegated by goal difference if the club staying up played Bolton in August? Time will tell but next summer the EFL could be faced with a legal challenge from a club or even two. UTG! their ,the EFL's point will be that those[AUGUST] teams will have been playing the club BWFC,[Mk1] they are not concerned about who those players were or are now, it is a club subsequent teams are playing and not those players representing it .. but as you say the outstanding outcome of not playing of 2 matches will be very interesting to those playing BWFC[Mk2]
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Post by mangogas15 on Sept 20, 2019 15:34:27 GMT
Agree. Some good players there and might be able to avoid relegation if they can gel early on. But the EFL have to rule on their refusal t9 play Doncaster and their failure to complete fixtures last season. Surely this will be a further deduction of points. The EFL will need to penalise them so they do get relegated. Can you imagine what the EFL will be faced with by any club that is relegated by goal difference if the club staying up played Bolton in August? Time will tell but next summer the EFL could be faced with a legal challenge from a club or even two. UTG! their ,the EFL's point will be that those[AUGUST] teams will have been playing the club BWFC,[Mk1] they are not concerned about who those players were or are now, it is a club subsequent teams are playing and not those players representing it .. but as you say the outstanding outcome of not playing of 2 matches will be very interesting to those playing BWFC[Mk2] www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49755240Add Southend to the mix
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 21, 2019 7:43:32 GMT
And perhaps Bury think they could be given a place next season. Burnham, the mayor of Greater Manchester is supporting this bid. Considering Oldham are also in GManchester and could possibly finish in 23rd place I bet he wouldn’t be so popular then if Bury’s place was at the expense of Oldham. Crazy situation esp as Dale is still there. Losing a bit of sympathy now for Bury! UTG! www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49776759
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Post by lostinspace on Sept 21, 2019 9:18:47 GMT
And perhaps Bury think they could be given a place next season. Burnham, the mayor of Greater Manchester is supporting this bid. Considering Oldham are also in GManchester and could possibly finish in 23rd place I bet he wouldn’t be so popular then if Bury’s place was at the expense of Oldham. Crazy situation esp as Dale is still there. Losing a bit of sympathy now for Bury! UTG! www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49776759Dale has to be out of the picture completely and Bury in totally new ownership before the EFL should even consider looking at this , The EFL should look at themselves to see how they can eliminate the likes of Dale even getting close to owning a FL club, at the moment the faintest smell of money seems to be enough for them to allow someone to take control of a club... imo Bury should have to "go through the system " to achieve league status again,
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Post by lostinspace on Nov 21, 2019 22:23:40 GMT
Bolton have been given a five-point deduction, suspended for 18 months, for failing to fulfil fixtures against Brentford last season and Doncaster this term.
Wanderers were due to play the Bees on 27 April but players refused to play the fixture over unpaid wages.
The club postponed their game against Doncaster on 20 August over welfare concerns for youth players.
A 12-point deduction was already given for entering administration in May.
Following a hearing on 14 November, a disciplinary commission also ruled that Bolton will be handed a financial penalty of £20,000 for the Brentford fixture and £50,000 for the Doncaster game, with half of both fines also suspended for 18 months.
Bolton, who are bottom of League One, pleaded guilty to the charges.
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 21, 2019 23:02:49 GMT
Agree. Some good players there and might be able to avoid relegation if they can gel early on. But the EFL have to rule on their refusal t9 play Doncaster and their failure to complete fixtures last season. Surely this will be a further deduction of points. The EFL will need to penalise them so they do get relegated. Can you imagine what the EFL will be faced with by any club that is relegated by goal difference if the club staying up played Bolton in August? Time will tell but next summer the EFL could be faced with a legal challenge from a club or even two. UTG! Well I was wrong there! No real punishment with a suspended loss of points. So now it’s alright to cancel and postpone games and not get an effective punishment. Blimey, this division this year lacks any integrity. I would imagine that with this it makes a legal challenge more likely at the season end if Bolton avoid relegation and others go down. But I’ll probably be wrong with that as well. UTG!
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Post by irenestoyboy on Nov 22, 2019 0:01:53 GMT
Yeah it’s wrong that. Basically if you are up to your guts with injuries and can only field a youth team then, to protect their mental wellbeing you can can a game off with no consequence.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2019 11:27:00 GMT
Yeah it’s wrong that. Basically if you are up to your guts with injuries and can only field a youth team then, to protect their mental wellbeing you can can a game off with no consequence. Remember that they were messing around last season as well, not playing games. The reason that they didn't meet their commitment to the Doncaster game is that they were a financial basket case and didn't have a full senior squad. At that point they should have been expelled from the League, just like Bury. Anyway, good to see that the EFL have actually done the right thing for once and are appealing yesterday's punishment on the grounds that it is too lenient.
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