Rex
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Post by Rex on Aug 19, 2019 5:52:53 GMT
Nope, all true and the manager is no longer at the club. We have also given out two year deals with a 3 month termination notice so it's not unique. If that manager was dismissed solely for not being within that League position then I would like to know the terms of the settlement, unless of course he was given everything that was agreed at the outset. I'm with Bamber on this one, those sort of clauses would be nigh on impossible to enforce without a world of pain at a tribunal after. Of course there are always ways to ensure that someone is relatively happy to leave which is why we see so many managers go by 'mutual consent' (tax free!)
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trymer
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Post by trymer on Aug 19, 2019 7:28:51 GMT
Everyone is indeed entitled to their opinion and entitled to express it any way they feel. I thought it was a poor performance, although the term 'unacceptable' always amuses me. It was a game of football, a performance could be good, bad or indifferent, I don't think it could ever be described as 'unacceptable' and because your team have played crap, you don't have to 'vent your frustration' Maybe I'm just a bit narked after having seen blokes who had clearly been on the piss all day, several of whom where in the bar area for long periods of the match, hurling abuse at players who, although they didn't play well yesterday, we expect to 'play for the shirt' come what may. I don't think there was a lack of effort yesterday. A lack of skill and guile maybe, but those players did not deserve the reception they got after the game and our manager didn't deserve the shouts of 'f off Paddy' from the pissed up **** who - I would hazard a guess- as never played a game of football in his life. When it comes to football, we really are supposed to be 'all in it together' and I was more disappointed in some of our fans than the performance on the pitch. Well great, this is what forums are all about. Hey, whether anyone is in pub long periods (the way I understand it, it's completely understandable if we are playing the way we are!), instead of being fixated with cr@p football or say chatting, or on their mob most of 90mins (more commonly) is neither here nor there. They paid to get in and you rightly said they're entitled to their views and to express them in own way. Don't understand why anyone would be particularly narked..... it's their business isn't it? No one else's? Also neither here nor there, is the played football comment. I think GC played more football than most of us, and you're finding somewhere near 100% of disagreement with his selection/tactics/formation/post match comments. Ok, no lack of effort yesterday....most seem to not mention that as a problem, so that isn't an issue with the verbals. Ok, what should folk do to express their concerns immediately post natch, sorry match? I'll edit and say in a Eutopia, we are in it together, cool, wish was so....but unfortunately have a look at the car park on away matches at mem.....with some on loan so they're not our players, some nice new motors, some nice earning moneys, and being paid to perform as opposed to the average paying fan who stumps up his/her hard earned....some are more in it together than others. Personally when I go to matches (which is becoming a lot less frequent) I don't boo or abuse the Rovers players,others do (and that's been going on for a long time) and whilst I don't like that it is a fact of life. The thing that I don't understand is if those individuals who boo the team don't enjoy watching why go at all? There are so many choices now for leisure time that were not available years ago that travelling to Birmingham,drinking under the stand and shouting "f*** off Paddy" at some poor wretch seem an odd way to spend a Saturday. When I think of the money that I would have spent (let alone the time) going to Blackpool and having a **** day out I am glad that we decided not to go.
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simonj
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Post by simonj on Aug 19, 2019 7:39:33 GMT
Well great, this is what forums are all about. Hey, whether anyone is in pub long periods (the way I understand it, it's completely understandable if we are playing the way we are!), instead of being fixated with cr@p football or say chatting, or on their mob most of 90mins (more commonly) is neither here nor there. They paid to get in and you rightly said they're entitled to their views and to express them in own way. Don't understand why anyone would be particularly narked..... it's their business isn't it? No one else's? Also neither here nor there, is the played football comment. I think GC played more football than most of us, and you're finding somewhere near 100% of disagreement with his selection/tactics/formation/post match comments. Ok, no lack of effort yesterday....most seem to not mention that as a problem, so that isn't an issue with the verbals. Ok, what should folk do to express their concerns immediately post natch, sorry match? I'll edit and say in a Eutopia, we are in it together, cool, wish was so....but unfortunately have a look at the car park on away matches at mem.....with some on loan so they're not our players, some nice new motors, some nice earning moneys, and being paid to perform as opposed to the average paying fan who stumps up his/her hard earned....some are more in it together than others. Personally when I go to matches (which is becoming a lot less frequent) I don't boo or abuse the Rovers players,others do (and that's been going on for a long time) and whilst I don't like that it is a fact of life. The thing that I don't understand is if those individuals who boo the team don't enjoy watching why go at all? There are so many choices now for leisure time that were not available years ago that travelling to Birmingham,drinking under the stand and shouting "f*** off Paddy" at some poor wretch seem an odd way to spend a Saturday. When I think of the money that I would have spent (let alone the time) going to Blackpool and having a **** day out I am glad that we decided not to go. Hmmm, when the clubs in your blood.....!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 8:23:57 GMT
If that manager was dismissed solely for not being within that League position then I would like to know the terms of the settlement, unless of course he was given everything that was agreed at the outset. I'm with Bamber on this one, those sort of clauses would be nigh on impossible to enforce without a world of pain at a tribunal after. Of course there are always ways to ensure that someone is relatively happy to leave which is why we see so many managers go by 'mutual consent' (tax free!) Well they have existed and no doubt exist today.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 9:50:57 GMT
The issue is there is no plan, there is no way the club plays, after the Clarke's spell we seem to have lurched back to the good old days of the December/January Save Us Appointment. Some of them kept us up; Coughlan, Ward, McGhee and some of them didn't; Thompson, Patterson, Penney. It gives you a fuzzy feeling to know we're getting the Bristol Rovers we know and love back.
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Post by irishrover on Aug 19, 2019 11:18:38 GMT
The issue is there is no plan, there is no way the club plays, after the Clarke's spell we seem to have lurched back to the good old days of the December/January Save Us Appointment. Some of them kept us up; Coughlan, Ward, McGhee and some of them didn't; Thompson, Patterson, Penney. It gives you a fuzzy feeling to know we're getting the Bristol Rovers we know and love back. Yes I am also getting that 'nice to be back to normal' feeling....Funny how some remain unbelievably bitter towards Clarke and/or Trollope, the 2 managers who whatever their ultimate faults have delivered pretty much our only periods of stability andtangible success in the last 25 years. I would like us to uncover another Clake or Trollope please but history tells me it will take 4/5 cycles of dysfunction before we randomly get there and, with the best will in the world, I don't think this chap is our huckleberry. That seems about the best we can hope for though.
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Post by outwoodgas on Aug 19, 2019 11:43:45 GMT
The issue is there is no plan, there is no way the club plays, after the Clarke's spell we seem to have lurched back to the good old days of the December/January Save Us Appointment. Some of them kept us up; Coughlan, Ward, McGhee and some of them didn't; Thompson, Patterson, Penney. It gives you a fuzzy feeling to know we're getting the Bristol Rovers we know and love back. Yes I am also getting that 'nice to be back to normal' feeling....Funny how some remain unbelievably bitter towards Clarke and/or Trollope, the 2 managers who whatever their ultimate faults have delivered pretty much our only periods of stability andtangible success in the last 25 years. I would like us to uncover another Clake or Trollope please but history tells me it will take 4/5 cycles of dysfunction before we randomly get there and, with the best will in the world, I don't think this chap is our huckleberry. That seems about the best we can hope for though. Spot on. Of the 24 managers we have had since Gerry Francis' first tenure only 5 (including a partnership) have won more games than they've lost. Mind you, one of those is Coughlan!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 12:44:51 GMT
Not sure Coughlan has won more games than he's lost.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 19, 2019 13:00:22 GMT
Hope no one in particular gets abused Saturday...... can't think of one player that might get some extra attentions from the opposition.
This is where there might be some hypocrisy, as I can't remember anyone highlighting the abuse ex sh!t players get.
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Post by outwoodgas on Aug 19, 2019 14:11:14 GMT
Not sure Coughlan has won more games than he's lost. I picked it up from the 'Next Bristol Rovers Manager - The Sack Race' website that I was most pessimistically looking at - I guess that's what supporting Rovers for over 50 years does to you.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 14:19:25 GMT
Not sure Coughlan has won more games than he's lost. P32 W12 D11 L9
37.5% Win Percentage or more importantly 1.47 PPG.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 14:37:32 GMT
League games: W10 D11 L8. Apologies for being wrong. I still think he's a dick though.
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Post by mangogas15 on Aug 19, 2019 19:36:59 GMT
Hope no one in particular gets abused Saturday...... can't think of one player that might get some extra attentions from the opposition. This is where there might be some hypocrisy, as I can't remember anyone highlighting the abuse ex sh!t players get. Do you mean Sercombe from Oxford fans?
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 19, 2019 20:12:03 GMT
Hope no one in particular gets abused Saturday...... can't think of one player that might get some extra attentions from the opposition. This is where there might be some hypocrisy, as I can't remember anyone highlighting the abuse ex sh!t players get. Do you mean Sercombe from Oxford fans? GC in interview acted a bit strange re Sercs..... apparently there's an issue with our medical team that they can't relay any information regarding Sercs injury? WTF? I blame Gorringe..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 9:10:05 GMT
The issue is there is no plan, there is no way the club plays, after the Clarke's spell we seem to have lurched back to the good old days of the December/January Save Us Appointment. Some of them kept us up; Coughlan, Ward, McGhee and some of them didn't; Thompson, Patterson, Penney. It gives you a fuzzy feeling to know we're getting the Bristol Rovers we know and love back. Yes I am also getting that 'nice to be back to normal' feeling....Funny how some remain unbelievably bitter towards Clarke and/or Trollope, the 2 managers who whatever their ultimate faults have delivered pretty much our only periods of stability andtangible success in the last 25 years. I would like us to uncover another Clake or Trollope please but history tells me it will take 4/5 cycles of dysfunction before we randomly get there and, with the best will in the world, I don't think this chap is our huckleberry. That seems about the best we can hope for though. Oh I don’t know, people naturally assume *** football grows on trees but don’t forget that in our case it takes 3 blokes on the bench to come up with it. Meanwhile TW is scouting the land looking for another clogger with a cultured hoof on him to add to the mix. It’s another great Rovers empire that is being built in my opinion. No plan and cheap (and nasty) nepotistic appointments- we’ve got our Rovers back!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 9:12:07 GMT
League games: W10 D11 L8. Apologies for being wrong. I still think he's a dick though. Give it til the end of Saturday and he’ll be right on the cusp...
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