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Post by Igitur on May 1, 2019 17:10:17 GMT
Bookies must know something, according to EP: ... Holloway remains favourite, with his odds having moved in to evens [for Plymuff manager] , whilst Darrell Clarke has slipped to third favourite with odds of 10/1.Here are the top candidates according to the bookies:Ian Holloway - 1/1Graham Coughlan - 6/4Darrell Clarke - 10/1I try to ignore all the speculation and bookies' odds about managers, but this caught my eye, if you can stand the videos, pop ups, adverts etc more at: www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/odds-dramatically-cut-bristol-rovers-2819631Just save the drama involved in the transaction, find out who owns the gambling company and hand some of your hard earned money to whoever it is. Most of these are just made up numbers to tempt idiots to give their money away. Have to agree, but his odds have shortened and bookies are the ones making money.
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Post by eppinggas on May 1, 2019 18:19:21 GMT
Skybet now has GC as favourite 5-4 for the Janner job. Ollie now 6-4. Obviously GC must know both Clubs quite well. Which one has the best stadium and would be equipped for Championsh*t football? Which one has the better training facilities? Which one has the most competent senior management team? Which one has a 'strategy'? GC has a great (though very short) CV at the Gas. Has he been 'found out' with his tactics, his hands tied with a pretty mediocre squad? Mmmm... Should 'muff stay up, I wouldn't blame him for jumping ship. Stranger things have happened.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 20:49:37 GMT
Skybet now has GC as favourite 5-4 for the Janner job. Ollie now 6-4. Obviously GC must know both Clubs quite well. Which one has the best stadium and would be equipped for Championsh*t football? Which one has the better training facilities? Which one has the most competent senior management team? Which one has a 'strategy'? GC has a great (though very short) CV at the Gas. Has he been 'found out' with his tactics, his hands tied with a pretty mediocre squad? Mmmm... Should 'muff stay up, I wouldn't blame him for jumping ship. Stranger things have happened. Yes, he's looked like a rabbit in headlights at times tactically, but I would still keep him and put a seasoned assistant next to him rather than pick one of the usual suspects off of the lower league manager merry-go-round.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 20:53:24 GMT
Just save the drama involved in the transaction, find out who owns the gambling company and hand some of your hard earned money to whoever it is. Most of these are just made up numbers to tempt idiots to give their money away. Have to agree, but his odds have shortened and bookies are the ones making money. Not off of me they aren't making any money. You literally can't win with 'The House', ask Phil Ivey. It's like trying to get a Man U game refereed fairly whilst Cheaty Grunty was in charge, it's just not allowed.
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on May 1, 2019 21:14:22 GMT
We don't know who recruited the player that kept us in this division. But if the last manager had that player and the player had the same form all season he would still be our manager now. We've been a disorganised mess in several home games under the present manager. Hard to see next season being anything other than a struggle with him in charge. Edit. Well played Derby. Rounded off a good day. He knew JCH at Southend so I reckon he had something to do with it. I think he's done a great job considering the situation he inherited and I'm looking forward to him shipping out a few and seeing if he can get in any more gems to play up front. A decent strike force is half the battle. We need another striker who can actually score and a wide man and I have a feeling he'll do just that.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 21:41:25 GMT
I would still keep him and put a seasoned assistant next to him rather than pick one of the usual suspects off of the lower league manager merry-go-round. If he goes... DC anyone?
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 21:49:40 GMT
I think GC was tactically very astute and single minded. He wanted a dour battling team as a means of surviving with poor players and he stuck to his guns and achieved what looked like an unlikely goal.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 22:19:05 GMT
I think GC was tactically very astute and single minded. He wanted a dour battling team as a means of surviving with poor players and he stuck to his guns and achieved what looked like an unlikely goal. What AFC achieved was unlikely, all we did was parked the bus and got lucky with recruiting a striker who hit form.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 23:02:05 GMT
I think GC was tactically very astute and single minded. He wanted a dour battling team as a means of surviving with poor players and he stuck to his guns and achieved what looked like an unlikely goal. What AFC achieved was unlikely, all we did was parked the bus and got lucky with recruiting a striker who hit form. Me and you are just punters with different opinions but although i disliked the football i admire the fact that coughlan stuck to his guns and got us out of trouble. He signed clarke-harris and the lad scored goals. Lets face it he took all the fancy footballers and questionable attitudes out of the team and in some cases the club and ground out the results. If coughlan was lucky with clarke-harris so was ferguson with ronaldo or tann was with bradford imo.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 23:21:23 GMT
What AFC achieved was unlikely, all we did was parked the bus and got lucky with recruiting a striker who hit form. Me and you are just punters with different opinions but although i disliked the football i admire the fact that coughlan stuck to his guns and got us out of trouble. He signed clarke-harris and the lad scored goals. Lets face it he took all the fancy footballers and questionable attitudes out of the team and in some cases the club and ground out the results. If coughlan was lucky with clarke-harris so was ferguson with ronaldo or tann was with bradford imo. We don't know who is in charge of recruitment, in or out. So most of that is just presumption. Angry Jock was lucky that Ronaldo left just as he was reaching his peak? Exactly the sort of luck any club can do without. Wiki have him as scoring 311 goals in 292 games at Real, it's just crazy numbers.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 23:58:58 GMT
Me and you are just punters with different opinions but although i disliked the football i admire the fact that coughlan stuck to his guns and got us out of trouble. He signed clarke-harris and the lad scored goals. Lets face it he took all the fancy footballers and questionable attitudes out of the team and in some cases the club and ground out the results. If coughlan was lucky with clarke-harris so was ferguson with ronaldo or tann was with bradford imo. We don't know who is in charge of recruitment, in or out. So most of that is just presumption. Angry Jock was lucky that Ronaldo left just as he was reaching his peak? Exactly the sort of luck any club can do without. Wiki have him as scoring 311 goals in 292 games at Real, it's just crazy numbers. Don't matter who recruits etc,the football manager agrees to sign him and use up his precious budget so he gets the credit or blame. Lee mansell might have said billy bodin can play but dc took the credit for his success and the blame for tom nichols failure. messi got his 600th goal tonight for barcelona but i would argue he would not have scored as many in the jimmy greaves/gerd muller era because of the defensive and brutal style of football in that era.
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Post by Colyton Gas. on May 2, 2019 11:17:22 GMT
Defo like GC.In his latest interview he says ,'The club have made tremendous progress both on and off the pitch.What off the pitch progress is he referring to?.Have I missed something??
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Post by emperorsuperbus on May 2, 2019 17:50:20 GMT
Do you think he will go to muff?
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Post by emperorsuperbus on May 2, 2019 17:55:39 GMT
Do you think he will go to muff? Cocko here, olly there doesn’t ring right do you think? If it was the other way around, the fans would be happier and give the guy the most precious thing for managers, time. If cocko does go muff, I would prefer olly as dof with younger coach heading up first team. What do you think?
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2019 18:03:13 GMT
Defo like GC.In his latest interview he says ,'The club have made tremendous progress both on and off the pitch.What off the pitch progress is he referring to?.Have I missed something?? No, that’s why it’s a load of waffle whilst making veiled negative comments against a contracted player.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on May 2, 2019 18:35:07 GMT
Interesting. Why? This management team took us from a relegation scenario to staying up by many places. It shows we have a structure that can stay up I don't think the board will give him anymore money to get better players in ... fair enough. Maybe you're more itk than most, as I don't know that is a fact. Do you think it would be like that for whomever was manager?
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Post by bondigas on May 2, 2019 21:11:52 GMT
Coughlan hated in the dressing room, a bully, Tony Craig senior pro kept the side up. Apart from those who joined the club in the window every player wants away in the summer. If you know a player check it out one to one,
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2019 21:39:49 GMT
Defo like GC.In his latest interview he says ,'The club have made tremendous progress both on and off the pitch.What off the pitch progress is he referring to?.Have I missed something?? No, that’s why it’s a load of waffle whilst making veiled negative comments against a contracted player. Yep. Dismissive of Chris Lines in a few comments. He does realise that Chris, a) Is still a class footballer, b) played higher level and well, yet dropped several divisions to.play for the club he loves, c) doesn't need loyalty lessons from anyone, be that the current manager or a Portsmouth player.
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Post by dido on May 2, 2019 21:56:08 GMT
How often did Chris Lines play in a higher league than League One, then, Dr F?
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Post by irishrover on May 2, 2019 21:59:31 GMT
Yes Coughlin did do the job and deserves plenty of credit for that - changing manager midseason is a 50-50 bet at very best and he does seem to have gotten some kind of a tune out of a squad that had stopped delierving the good. The recruitment was good - obviously we bought in a key striker at the perfect time who did the business and others also significantly improved the squad. So there maybe something to cling onto there which, given our seemingly consistent problems in that area at League 1 level, is probably not to be sniffed at.
Nevertheless I saw us play 5-6 of the games under him and thought we looked more disorganised, ponderous and limited than I've seen a Rovers side in years. It just didn't look very coherent or interesting. I can only go on what I saw and I wasn't impressed at all but results are results.
Personally, I think a brave and ambitious club might make a harsh call and say 'thanks very much Graham, good luck in the next job'. I don't think we're that so we'll probably stick with him, which seems fair on the face of it but I think risks putting us back into the cycle of annual recruitment/struggle/sackings we went through before Clarke arrived. Hopefully I'm wrong and the good recruitment continues and the team improves but I'm certainly in the not fully convinced camp.
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