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Post by stevek192 on Mar 24, 2019 21:01:42 GMT
Its the way I see the game Padstow simple as that. Every person sees different aspects to the games. that's fair enough if you see Ollie Clarke as a good player most of the time then sobeit.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2019 22:35:42 GMT
Padstow, You are entitled to your opinion but as regards the blinkers on I suggest you check others scores on gas chat and you may see that perhaps it is yourself who is blinkered. Not at all steve,i watch what players do when they haven't got the ball or when they do something that isn't glamorous or is a signing from another club,There seems to be a recurring theme in your posts when it comes to certain players try reading back over them and you will see.I watch games that rovers play in the same way I watched lots of other clubs in my career,unbiased,as if I am writing a report Waste of time coming on here and commenting on anything that happens off of the ball. I tried that when Nichols was walking around and other players had to do their own work and his, I did it a few years back when Chris lines was moving into areas where he couldn't affect play, it doesn't go down well on this forum. Just watch the ball and you'll fit right in.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 15:20:30 GMT
That's obviously where I have been getting it wrong thanks for that bambi
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 15:23:20 GMT
Padstow, You are entitled to your opinion but as regards the blinkers on I suggest you check others scores on gas chat and you may see that perhaps it is yourself who is blinkered. As a representative opinion is that what you are implying? On average there are less than 20 giving performance marks usually out of a crowd of 8000 at home and usually over 1000 away a very low % that you are basing your argument on.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 15:25:55 GMT
Its the way I see the game Padstow simple as that. Every person sees different aspects to the games. that's fair enough if you see Ollie Clarke as a good player most of the time then sobeit. He is no worse than those you have been marking higher obviously you are looking for him to make a mistake and overlooking those of the other 2 midfielders around him. This is similar to how a small number were marking ellis until suddenly he was all we had and then up he went in your estimation
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Post by eppinggas on Mar 26, 2019 8:30:52 GMT
Its the way I see the game Padstow simple as that. Every person sees different aspects to the games. that's fair enough if you see Ollie Clarke as a good player most of the time then sobeit. He is no worse than those you have been marking higher obviously you are looking for him to make a mistake and overlooking those of the other 2 midfielders around him. This is similar to how a small number were marking ellis until suddenly he was all we had and then up he went in your estimation 1. I certainly don't remember 'poor' marks from stevek192 for Ellis. Usually in line with my opinion and generally decent marks. 2. 20 people bothering to put down marks for each player in a game is a pretty decent sample. 3. Ollie Clarke has been pants pretty much all season. I guess when you've been pants and established yourself as 5/10 player over a large number of games, it's hard to get a 'ratings boost' unless you play significantly better. OC starts every game and I just don't see why. I'd try Sinclair instead of him personally. 4. I look forward to your ratings in future. UTG.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 15:00:40 GMT
So bad that he is our 2nd top scorer and contrary to the knowledgeable he is made captain by gc as opposed to other more rated players,that should tell you something,that the manager, who is more important than the few who mark performances on a minority forum, rates him higher than those marking him. As for Sinclair playing that is nonsense the team are set up in a way that every player knows what he has to do,this is impossible with Sinclair because his enthusiasm takes him after the ball no matter where it is so it wrecks the plans of the manager to have a disxciplined midfield.
As for Ellis he was among a number the season before last suggesting he be given a free transfer because he wasn't good enough in fact I believe you were also one of them.
It just proves the point that those managing and coaching teams know a damn sight more about the players and what they bring to the side than the few who feature on a minority forum
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Post by laughinggas on Mar 26, 2019 15:45:50 GMT
In my humble opinion some of the games OC is deemed poor are games when he is on the ball and very few seem to want the pass. This results in a bad pass or being tackled. He is usually trying to be offensive in his passing. This balanced by Upson just getting and giving simple ball in any direction. The lack of offensive right back means he has limited options on his side of the pitch.
I recall OC got poor mark against Coventry despite assisting in first 3 goals.
He seems to be the new marmite player.
Think we would lose a lot from team having Sincs in his place.
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Post by eppinggas on Mar 26, 2019 18:02:14 GMT
So bad that he is our 2nd top scorer and contrary to the knowledgeable he is made captain by gc as opposed to other more rated players,that should tell you something,that the manager, who is more important than the few who mark performances on a minority forum, rates him higher than those marking him. As for Sinclair playing that is nonsense the team are set up in a way that every player knows what he has to do,this is impossible with Sinclair because his enthusiasm takes him after the ball no matter where it is so it wrecks the plans of the manager to have a disxciplined midfield. As for Ellis he was among a number the season before last suggesting he be given a free transfer because he wasn't good enough in fact I believe you were also one of them.It just proves the point that those managing and coaching teams know a damn sight more about the players and what they bring to the side than the few who feature on a minority forum You believe wrong then (unless you can find a quote to prove otherwise). I always stuck up for him when he was getting dogs abuse. As for the rest of it. Whatever. I look forward to your future in depth match reports and player ratings. UTG.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 9:02:40 GMT
So bad that he is our 2nd top scorer and contrary to the knowledgeable he is made captain by gc as opposed to other more rated players,that should tell you something,that the manager, who is more important than the few who mark performances on a minority forum, rates him higher than those marking him. As for Sinclair playing that is nonsense the team are set up in a way that every player knows what he has to do,this is impossible with Sinclair because his enthusiasm takes him after the ball no matter where it is so it wrecks the plans of the manager to have a disxciplined midfield. As for Ellis he was among a number the season before last suggesting he be given a free transfer because he wasn't good enough in fact I believe you were also one of them.It just proves the point that those managing and coaching teams know a damn sight more about the players and what they bring to the side than the few who feature on a minority forum You believe wrong then (unless you can find a quote to prove otherwise). I always stuck up for him when he was getting dogs abuse. As for the rest of it. Whatever. I look forward to your future in depth match reports and player ratings. UTG. I don't do match reports or ratings because they are meaningless and only one persons opinion and majority have a favourite and a marmite and it seems this season the marmite player is ollie clarke.winder who it will be neXT season?it happens every year and the same with one who can do no wrong
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 9:08:55 GMT
He is no worse than those you have been marking higher obviously you are looking for him to make a mistake and overlooking those of the other 2 midfielders around him. This is similar to how a small number were marking ellis until suddenly he was all we had and then up he went in your estimation 1. I certainly don't remember 'poor' marks from stevek192 for Ellis. Usually in line with my opinion and generally decent marks. 2. 20 people bothering to put down marks for each player in a game is a pretty decent sample. 3. Ollie Clarke has been pants pretty much all season. I guess when you've been pants and established yourself as 5/10 player over a large number of games, it's hard to get a 'ratings boost' unless you play significantly better. OC starts every game and I just don't see why. I'd try Sinclair instead of him personally. 4. I look forward to your ratings in future. UTG. 20 out of 8000 which is a quarter of 1 per cent I don't call that representative by any means do you.?taking it further would you accept being governed by a political party that garnished 1 quarter of 1 per cent of the electoral vote ?because that is what you are suggesting
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Post by stevek192 on Mar 27, 2019 9:25:25 GMT
Padstow, You seem intent on trying to imply that you know more than anyone else and the same as the Manager without an inkling that you may be wrong. Well sobeit- I provide a report that is how I see the game ,simple as that, I work on the basis that one simple pass is better than giving the ball away however I will go as far to say that your Ollie Clarke so say always trying creative forward passes is nonsence- the only player who does that in our squad is Lines and not that often this season. Ollie Clarke is just a poor passer of the ball most of the time but he did have a spell quite a long time ago now where he gave some consistent good performances and did score some good goals. Anyway your criticism is fine , that's what the forum is all about but as for your "that those managing and coaching teams know a damn sight more about the players and what they bring to the side than the few who feature on a minority forum" will possibly be proven by the final table but there again it might prove that they are not as good as you might think. by the way you could look on it in the same way that your comments are meaningless and only one persons opinion!!! Think about that!! I NEVER state that my reports are anything other than MY OPINION of the match and I have a way that I like football to be played and like everybody who supports the team will have favourites.
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Post by eppinggas on Mar 27, 2019 9:29:55 GMT
You believe wrong then (unless you can find a quote to prove otherwise). I always stuck up for him when he was getting dogs abuse. As for the rest of it. Whatever. I look forward to your future in depth match reports and player ratings. UTG. I don't do match reports or ratings because they are meaningless and only one persons opinion and majority have a favourite and a marmite and it seems this season the marmite player is ollie clarke.winder who it will be neXT season?it happens every year and the same with one who can do no wrong That's a shame. You work in the industry and I would have been interested in your player ratings. They might even have been as accurate as those we get from Stevek192... now we'll never know. I also look forward to exactly where I suggested that "Ellis... be given a free transfer because he wasn't good enough". I never said that, or anything like that. So if you can't produce any evidence - please retract your lie.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 10:04:26 GMT
I don't do match reports or ratings because they are meaningless and only one persons opinion and majority have a favourite and a marmite and it seems this season the marmite player is ollie clarke.winder who it will be neXT season?it happens every year and the same with one who can do no wrong That's a shame. You work in the industry and I would have been interested in your player ratings. They might even have been as accurate as those we get from Stevek192... now we'll never know. I also look forward to exactly where I suggested that "Ellis... be given a free transfer because he wasn't good enough". I never said that, or anything like that. So if you can't produce any evidence - please retract your lie. Good back to just over 2 years when those in the know we're saying how much better gaffney was and that Ellis shold be shipped out to a conference side.look at where they are now with gaffney only a sub in the conference
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Post by eppinggas on Mar 27, 2019 10:17:16 GMT
And Ollie Clarke was, yet again, the worst player in a poor and overrun mid-field. Either that or for some bizarre reason everyone who puts down their player ratings has an agenda against him. No worries though - he's first name on the team sheet for the Luton game.
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Post by eppinggas on Mar 27, 2019 10:20:26 GMT
That's a shame. You work in the industry and I would have been interested in your player ratings. They might even have been as accurate as those we get from Stevek192... now we'll never know. I also look forward to exactly where I suggested that "Ellis... be given a free transfer because he wasn't good enough". I never said that, or anything like that. So if you can't produce any evidence - please retract your lie. Good back to just over 2 years when those in the know we're saying how much better gaffney was and that Ellis shold be shipped out to a conference side.look at where they are now with gaffney only a sub in the conference I repeat. I never said that, or anything like that. I have also never suggested I am ITK, or anything like that. I look forward to your apology.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 27, 2019 13:01:51 GMT
He is no worse than those you have been marking higher obviously you are looking for him to make a mistake and overlooking those of the other 2 midfielders around him. This is similar to how a small number were marking ellis until suddenly he was all we had and then up he went in your estimation 1. I certainly don't remember 'poor' marks from stevek192 for Ellis. Usually in line with my opinion and generally decent marks. 2. 20 people bothering to put down marks for each player in a game is a pretty decent sample. 3. Ollie Clarke has been pants pretty much all season. I guess when you've been pants and established yourself as 5/10 player over a large number of games, it's hard to get a 'ratings boost' unless you play significantly better. OC starts every game and I just don't see why. I'd try Sinclair instead of him personally. 4. I look forward to your ratings in future. UTG. I vividly remember a large amount of nonsense about EH but I think Steve was pretty fair in comparison. This side of Kingswood was pretty spiteful at times.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 27, 2019 13:05:37 GMT
I don't do match reports or ratings because they are meaningless and only one persons opinion and majority have a favourite and a marmite and it seems this season the marmite player is ollie clarke.winder who it will be neXT season?it happens every year and the same with one who can do no wrong That's a shame. You work in the industry and I would have been interested in your player ratings. They might even have been as accurate as those we get from Stevek192... now we'll never know. I also look forward to exactly where I suggested that "Ellis... be given a free transfer because he wasn't good enough". I never said that, or anything like that. So if you can't produce any evidence - please retract your lie. I think both posters have valid points but it saddens me that posts have become personal, at times. The main reason I started on here was the lack of that. Now, shake hands lad and let’s get behind the team 👍🏻
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Post by eppinggas on Mar 27, 2019 15:18:12 GMT
That's a shame. You work in the industry and I would have been interested in your player ratings. They might even have been as accurate as those we get from Stevek192... now we'll never know. I also look forward to exactly where I suggested that "Ellis... be given a free transfer because he wasn't good enough". I never said that, or anything like that. So if you can't produce any evidence - please retract your lie. I think both posters have valid points but it saddens me that posts have become personal, at times. The main reason I started on here was the lack of that. Now, shake hands lad and let’s get behind the team 👍🏻 Quite happy to shake hands KP. Just need an apology from padstow who is making up things that I have allegedly said.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 17:17:03 GMT
I think both posters have valid points but it saddens me that posts have become personal, at times. The main reason I started on here was the lack of that. Now, shake hands lad and let’s get behind the team 👍🏻 Quite happy to shake hands KP. Just need an apology from padstow who is making up things that I have allegedly said. There are a lot of topics to go through for 2 or 3 years ago and will need a lot of time to trawl through them on both forums but I will get there and find what I am looking for even if it was a like to the comments on Harrison
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