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Post by a more piratey game on Oct 3, 2020 9:38:23 GMT
Do people have milk bottles anymore? I believe they are back in fashion, due to recycling etc Hoping for 3 pints today!
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Post by a more piratey game on Oct 3, 2020 9:39:15 GMT
Hold on to your hat, because you might not like it Knowall. How many members does the Presidents Club have? Regards John Malyckyj he doesn't seem to know that
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Post by mangogas15 on Oct 3, 2020 9:49:25 GMT
Do people have milk bottles anymore? I believe they are back in fashion, due to recycling etc Hoping for 3 pints today! 😆 To be fair my mother in law still had milk delivery before she died, that was only last year.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2020 11:00:02 GMT
Knowall. How many members does the Presidents Club have? Regards John Malyckyj he doesn't seem to know that I think he knows Anyway, enough of waiting for Know Nothing, here's a little video from The Presidents' Club, all of the members feature;
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 20:32:05 GMT
Tonight's the night, surely? Hold on to your hat, because you might not like it Dear Mr Wall, You must have missed my last message. What is it that I'll not like? I don't have a hat, but I am on the proverbial tenterhooks, awaiting your kind reply. I look forward to hearing from you. Yours sincerely, S. Hoveler
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Post by billyocean on Oct 4, 2020 20:56:17 GMT
Sage advice for a duck to hold onto its hat, particularly in flight, although I’d question the benefit in wearing one in the first place
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Post by a more piratey game on Oct 5, 2020 18:47:45 GMT
What is it I won't like, please? I wouldn't waste the breath Shoveler. I think he only deals in insinuations, not facts, and I think always towards the same party irene's toy boy has just posted at the other place that both knowall and gasincider 'had NDAs signed with the consortium' (which is waiting to buy us and build a stadium for us) so, to throw some more intrigue into the mix, maybe knowall is limiting himself to insinuations in order not to breach that NDA? it's a theory, but somewhat undermined by his equal reluctance to say something as seemingly unconfidential as how many members the wish-I-were-President Club has it's like Cluedo, innit!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2020 18:56:03 GMT
I wouldn't waste the breath Shoveler. I think he only deals in insinuations, not facts, and I think always towards the same party irene's toy boy has just posted at the other place that both knowall and gasincider 'had NDAs signed with the consortium' (which is waiting to buy us and build a stadium for us) so, to throw some more intrigue into the mix, maybe knowall is limiting himself to insinuations in order not to breach that NDA? it's a theory, but somewhat undermined by his equal reluctance to say something as seemingly unconfidential as how many members the wish-I-were-President Club has it's like Cluedo, innit! If he genuinely was involved at that level he wouldn't be acting like an arse on forums continually suggesting that he knows stuff.
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Post by a more piratey game on Oct 13, 2020 7:45:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2020 10:05:01 GMT
''The most serious crisis the club has ever faced' he reckons.
Maybe someone should fill him in on having no ground and being penniless then moving to Twerton.
The fact that equity in this stadium is heavily leveraged is entirely a problem of his own making.
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Oct 13, 2020 11:17:50 GMT
Selling Eastville stadium despite a majority vote not to unleashed a permanent crisis, but the club's ragbag culture goes back to the manager who introduced the blue and white quarters to make the players look bigger then ran off to join a circus.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2020 12:08:23 GMT
Selling Eastville stadium despite a majority vote not to unleashed a permanent crisis, but the club's ragbag culture goes back to the manager who introduced the blue and white quarters to make the players look bigger then ran off to join a circus. The crisis ended when Bristol Rugby went belly up. After that debt was reasonably well managed, and Directors acted fairly responsibly and mostly in the best interest of the club, until we arrived at a position where new owners landed at the crest of a wave, lost all forward momentum, systematically removed almost everybody with a long standing association with the club, and achieved losses that are far far in excess of anything we would have imagined in our worst nightmares, and secured it all against the stadium, then to put a cherry on top of that steaming pile of dung, put a charge on the stadium so that no matter what, they get their money back. This is the same leadership that the majority are now applauding because the name on the share certificates has changed. I'm at a loss to understand why anybody expects this to end anything other than badly for Rovers.
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Post by swissgas on Oct 13, 2020 14:37:39 GMT
You haven't read the authorised script Bamber.
"Let me be clear, this is the most serious crisis the club has ever faced and the biggest threat to its existence," the Rovers owner said.
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"Having said that, this club was founded in 1883 and I won’t let anything threaten the situation here".
So there is no threat to Rovers existence and it is not going to end badly because those were the last words Wael said and most Gasheads are very happy to take him at his (last) word.
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Post by Gas Since 1957 on Oct 13, 2020 14:55:10 GMT
You haven't read the authorised script Bamber. "Let me be clear, this is the most serious crisis the club has ever faced and the biggest threat to its existence," the Rovers owner said. But "Having said that, this club was founded in 1883 and I won’t let anything threaten the situation here". So there is no threat to Rovers existence and it is not going to end badly because those were the last words Wael said and most Gasheads are very happy to take him at his (last) word. So you're insinuating Wael is talking rubbish? Any actual proof? Frankly, ALL clubs are in trouble at the moment and it's likely several will go to the wall within a few weeks. If Wael is prepared to use his legacy to keep Rovers afloat, I think that's cause for encouragement, not another conspiracy theory. He is the owner of the club using his own funds at a time when our turnover is expected to reduce by £3.5m, so possibly a loss this season of about £5m. The wage bill is below the League 1 maximum, we made a profit on transfer deals, the training ground is well underway and (surprise) it looks like the team is starting to play some attractive football. So yes, I'm very happy to take Wael at his word! If he keeps things going with those sort of losses, he should be applauded!
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Post by swissgas on Oct 13, 2020 15:37:20 GMT
You haven't read the authorised script Bamber. "Let me be clear, this is the most serious crisis the club has ever faced and the biggest threat to its existence," the Rovers owner said. But "Having said that, this club was founded in 1883 and I won’t let anything threaten the situation here". So there is no threat to Rovers existence and it is not going to end badly because those were the last words Wael said and most Gasheads are very happy to take him at his (last) word. So you're insinuating Wael is talking rubbish? Any actual proof? Frankly, ALL clubs are in trouble at the moment and it's likely several will go to the wall within a few weeks. If Wael is prepared to use his legacy to keep Rovers afloat, I think that's cause for encouragement, not another conspiracy theory. He is the owner of the club using his own funds at a time when our turnover is expected to reduce by £3.5m, so possibly a loss this season of about £5m. The wage bill is below the League 1 maximum, we made a profit on transfer deals, the training ground is well underway and (surprise) it looks like the team is starting to play some attractive football. So yes, I'm very happy to take Wael at his word! If he keeps things going with those sort of losses, he should be applauded! I happen to think differently but it wouldn't be good if we all thought the same way.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2020 16:47:55 GMT
You haven't read the authorised script Bamber. "Let me be clear, this is the most serious crisis the club has ever faced and the biggest threat to its existence," the Rovers owner said. But "Having said that, this club was founded in 1883 and I won’t let anything threaten the situation here". So there is no threat to Rovers existence and it is not going to end badly because those were the last words Wael said and most Gasheads are very happy to take him at his (last) word. So you're insinuating Wael is talking rubbish? Any actual proof? Frankly, ALL clubs are in trouble at the moment and it's likely several will go to the wall within a few weeks. If Wael is prepared to use his legacy to keep Rovers afloat, I think that's cause for encouragement, not another conspiracy theory. He is the owner of the club using his own funds at a time when our turnover is expected to reduce by £3.5m, so possibly a loss this season of about £5m. The wage bill is below the League 1 maximum, we made a profit on transfer deals, the training ground is well underway and (surprise) it looks like the team is starting to play some attractive football. So yes, I'm very happy to take Wael at his word! If he keeps things going with those sort of losses, he should be applauded! With investment secured against the stadium and a charge against that asset, can you please identify what, if any financial risk Wael has exposed himself to so far please? Or are you also willing to accept him at his word when he said, and I can't be bothered to look it up, so will have to paraphrase here, that when the charge against the stadium was first put in place there was no particular reason for it, it was only done because in business you never know what may happen? Not sure if you've seen the analysis of the numbers that Swiss has done for us, but it appears that Wael put in significantly less than the £20m which was being talked about as if it were a known value paid to secure control of the FC.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2020 16:51:08 GMT
You haven't read the authorised script Bamber. "Let me be clear, this is the most serious crisis the club has ever faced and the biggest threat to its existence," the Rovers owner said. But "Having said that, this club was founded in 1883 and I won’t let anything threaten the situation here". So there is no threat to Rovers existence and it is not going to end badly because those were the last words Wael said and most Gasheads are very happy to take him at his (last) word. Swiss. If I ever end up in court accused of something and you are representing the prosecution I'll just hold my hands up and change my plea to guilty.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Oct 13, 2020 17:18:06 GMT
Selling Eastville stadium despite a majority vote not to unleashed a permanent crisis, but the club's ragbag culture goes back to the manager who introduced the blue and white quarters to make the players look bigger then ran off to join a circus. The crisis ended when Bristol Rugby went belly up. After that debt was reasonably well managed, and Directors acted fairly responsibly and mostly in the best interest of the club, ....I will agree with you about the Dunfords but Higgs was betting on the roll of a loaded dice in court that could have ended very differently if the Al-Qadis (or A N Other)hadn't appeared over the hilltop. There are a number of other directors that could be mentioned over the years who haven't always put the Rovers interests at the forefront of the business, but that is as they say history. Rose tinted specs to believe all directors were philanthropists up to the man you see as the Devil Incarnate..... I don't think there is a direct threat to Rovers, as much as in the long history of the Gas, as long as Wael keeps coughing up. However I do believe there is an existential threat to lower league football clubs (sub Premier League) and there must be a lot of owners hoping some sort of deal can be done to get support for their clubs. If crowds don't come back this season I believe a few clubs will collapse and there may be a major reshuffle. I certainly hope that is not prophetic.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2020 18:46:33 GMT
The crisis ended when Bristol Rugby went belly up. After that debt was reasonably well managed, and Directors acted fairly responsibly and mostly in the best interest of the club, ....I will agree with you about the Dunfords but Higgs was betting on the roll of a loaded dice in court that could have ended very differently if the Al-Qadis (or A N Other)hadn't appeared over the hilltop. There are a number of other directors that could be mentioned over the years who haven't always put the Rovers interests at the forefront of the business, but that is as they say history. Rose tinted specs to believe all directors were philanthropists up to the man you see as the Devil Incarnate..... I don't think there is a direct threat to Rovers, as much as in the long history of the Gas, as long as Wael keeps coughing up. However I do believe there is an existential threat to lower league football clubs (sub Premier League) and there must be a lot of owners hoping some sort of deal can be done to get support for their clubs. If crowds don't come back this season I believe a few clubs will collapse and there may be a major reshuffle. I certainly hope that is not prophetic. We've been here before I think and all we can do is assess the information we have and come up with a hypothesis based on best available evidence. Given his equity share in Cowlin and the sale price I can't believe that Higgs didn't have ready access to £3m, if he was worried about security then he could have done exactly what MSP did and what Wael has done, secured the capital against the stadium. My best guess is that loan was taken, with interest calculated monthly, as a tool to attempt to put pressure onto Sainsbury's. But I agree, the case was daft, we were never going to win. Moving forward to Wael, we have no idea how this ends, mainly, in my opinion, because we don't know what happens when either his personal money runs out or when the investment exceeds the value of assets that he can secure that investment against.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2020 19:49:41 GMT
Hmm... theory.
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