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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 19:26:31 GMT
Spending is spiralling out of control all borrowed against the only asset DS own. Unsustainable. The ‘fat builder’ was Chairman when we got back into the football league FYI the AQ’s trucked up in February and hung onto the coat tails of DC’s double promotion. Ever since lots of hot air, appointments, pointless interviews and an idiotic hiring and firing policy where we have a President, a Chairman, a CEO and a well, I don’t know WTF he is mr Gorringe. Five good pedigree L1 players gone and inferior players signed. We are going backwards at a pretty fast rate. Higgs tried his best to make the Sainsbury deal work, appointed experienced managers with a good track record, gave Rovers a budget above the average in both divisions...all let him down. Also, stuck with DC when Rovers were rock bottom. This decision alone was attracting a fair amount of criticism at the time. Fair play to the man, in my book he did nothing wrong.Before we start with this, can we be clear, you believe that, during his time as Chairman of Rovers Higgs did nothing wrong? We aren't talking about a missed possessive apostrophe contained within an email, or being late for an appointment, we are talking about decisions relating to the running of the club and treatment of supporters. This could be fun.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 20:30:54 GMT
Higgs tried his best to make the Sainsbury deal work, appointed experienced managers with a good track record, gave Rovers a budget above the average in both divisions...all let him down. Hahahahahahahahahahaha - nice one. Also, stuck with DC when Rovers were rock bottom. This decision alone was attracting a fair amount of criticism at the time. Fair play to the man, in my book he did nothing wrong. Ducking brilliant post, this; can't believe our dear @bambergasgroin fell for it. Before we start with this, can we be clear, you believe that, during his time as Chairman of Rovers Higgs did nothing wrong? Hilarious.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 20:43:26 GMT
Higgs tried his best to make the Sainsbury deal work, appointed experienced managers with a good track record, gave Rovers a budget above the average in both divisions...all let him down. Hahahahahahahahahahaha - nice one. Also, stuck with DC when Rovers were rock bottom. This decision alone was attracting a fair amount of criticism at the time. Fair play to the man, in my book he did nothing wrong. Ducking brilliant post, this; can't believe our dear @bambergasgroin fell for it. Before we start with this, can we be clear, you believe that, during his time as Chairman of Rovers Higgs did nothing wrong? Hilarious. Life's confusing sometimes.
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Post by eppinggas on Sept 3, 2018 8:04:44 GMT
Hahahahahahahahahahaha - nice one. Ducking brilliant post, this; can't believe our dear @bambergasgroin fell for it. Hilarious. Life's confusing sometimes. I disagree. Life's confusing most of the time.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 8:30:39 GMT
Life's confusing sometimes. I disagree. Life's confusing most of the time. 🐕
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Post by stroudblue on Sept 3, 2018 9:35:15 GMT
Many do think the same. Sad world if everyone agreed with one point of view.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 6, 2018 10:14:53 GMT
I’m not using this to try and say I told you so but you are correct in that we really are a crisis club Trouble is what does that actually mean? And what does anyone propose to do about it? From the outside, it just looks like a bad start to a season and one where we may or may not get relegated. So what... Really ? If you do just a little digging then you know it’s more than that and when other clubs employees call you then you start to wonder what the hell is going on BUT everyone has a right to their way of viewing things. What if it were “just” a bad start but one that ended in relegation ? We were just starting to get people coming back. It will be a massive negative IF we get relegated and I’m sorry if this upsets anyone but I think we need to be looking at that As for the bit about doing something, I can’t answer that. I’ve done my bit but others were not prepared to do the same. On a personal level, I cannot now give the time to devote to supporters groups but the younger generation is not my friend. We need at least one project to be seen to be at least started before I believe anything the owners say but that’s me. Truth is not even a fans director held any sway so what chance the ordinary fan ? uTG
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 6, 2018 10:16:29 GMT
I’m not using this to try and say I told you so but you are correct in that we really are a crisis club If you have called something right don't be shy about telling people so, there are 1 or 2 on here who are still banging on about guessing correctly 4 years back That’s not how I operate and I apologise if I got something wrong too ! Good boy, me lol
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 6, 2018 10:22:08 GMT
Shrews will be relegated, we've just been lucky to come away with a point. We have big problems. Thanks,its always good to get an update from a person who was at the match. I think you are swampy AKA nurse ratchet and I claim my book token 😂
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 6, 2018 10:28:28 GMT
DC says in post match interview disappointed alot and we can use this draw as a building block (I am inferring he's not been happy with defence or goalkeeper situation). Fair comment and somewhere near part of the truth imo. But... Surely that, of majority of that should have been done pre-season? We've been aware of issues at left back and keeper since May at least. We're 8matches in and using a building block. That's almost 20% season wasted. Or is it just me? DC wouldn't know a good start to the season if it bit him on the ass. This is all par for the course but me personally, despite all his achievements I am struggling to back someone who has consistently given 23 rivals in the league such a massive head start on us each season. It isn't good enough and it frightens me that over 4+ seasons he simply has not got the hang of how to recruit and set a side out to be competitive from day one. How long can such a manager's job be tenable? Harsh but true but had he had the definite budget promised him then I believe he may have had the players that he wanted and not the Poundland players. I can lay blame at many peoples feet but I feel our manager was hobbled and constrained plus players do talk, you can take my word on that, or not. In previous seasons DC has had the player but only to hear, by text, the deal is off. We have to look further up the pay scale. Personally I feel DC can do a job but he needs total backing and not on/off projections and ever changing amounts promised only to be changed
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 6, 2018 10:44:41 GMT
Spending is spiralling out of control all borrowed against the only asset DS own. Unsustainable. The ‘fat builder’ was Chairman when we got back into the football league FYI the AQ’s trucked up in February and hung onto the coat tails of DC’s double promotion. Ever since lots of hot air, appointments, pointless interviews and an idiotic hiring and firing policy where we have a President, a Chairman, a CEO and a well, I don’t know WTF he is mr Gorringe. Five good pedigree L1 players gone and inferior players signed. We are going backwards at a pretty fast rate. Higgs tried his best to make the Sainsbury deal work, appointed experienced managers with a good track record, gave Rovers a budget above the average in both divisions...all let him down. Also, stuck with DC when Rovers were rock bottom. This decision alone was attracting a fair amount of criticism at the time. Fair play to the man, in my book he did nothing wrong. He did though but not on purpose, he just didn’t have the nous, both football & businesswise, to know what to do. He just kept writing cheques until he could no longer do it and also alienated a large number of people in his manner of approach. He still comes to games and I’m told, by a close neighbour of his and friend/gashead, that he is absolutely and abjectly gutted at how everything is unravelling. I still find it hard to forget what he did but I can forgive what was a misguided man
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Post by Peter Parker on Sept 7, 2018 8:21:17 GMT
Trouble is what does that actually mean? And what does anyone propose to do about it? From the outside, it just looks like a bad start to a season and one where we may or may not get relegated. So what... Really ? If you do just a little digging then you know it’s more than that and when other clubs employees call you then you start to wonder what the hell is going on BUT everyone has a right to their way of viewing things. What if it were “just” a bad start but one that ended in relegation ? We were just starting to get people coming back. It will be a massive negative IF we get relegated and I’m sorry if this upsets anyone but I think we need to be looking at that As for the bit about doing something, I can’t answer that. I’ve done my bit but others were not prepared to do the same. On a personal level, I cannot now give the time to devote to supporters groups but the younger generation is not my friend. We need at least one project to be seen to be at least started before I believe anything the owners say but that’s me. Truth is not even a fans director held any sway so what chance the ordinary fan ? uTG If we get relegated, that's football. I wouldn't be happy about it, but I would cheer the team on next season.
As for doing a bit of digging,, I am sure I could but not sure what purpose it would serve. If it is as bad as people make out then all I would end up doing is being more annoyed about something I cannot change.
I can't be bothered to be too attached to it, or get to worked up anymore. Life is far better without worrying about s**t I cannot do anything about, as well as having far nicer distractions then overly worrying about an historically average football club.
Football is a bit of escapism for me (again now) on a Saturday afternoon away from the wife and boy wonder at home. When I get home at half 5. I park it at the door as I ain't going to let it ruin my evening
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 7, 2018 19:00:55 GMT
Really ? If you do just a little digging then you know it’s more than that and when other clubs employees call you then you start to wonder what the hell is going on BUT everyone has a right to their way of viewing things. What if it were “just” a bad start but one that ended in relegation ? We were just starting to get people coming back. It will be a massive negative IF we get relegated and I’m sorry if this upsets anyone but I think we need to be looking at that As for the bit about doing something, I can’t answer that. I’ve done my bit but others were not prepared to do the same. On a personal level, I cannot now give the time to devote to supporters groups but the younger generation is not my friend. We need at least one project to be seen to be at least started before I believe anything the owners say but that’s me. Truth is not even a fans director held any sway so what chance the ordinary fan ? uTG If we get relegated, that's football. I wouldn't be happy about it, but I would cheer the team on next season.
As for doing a bit of digging,, I am sure I could but not sure what purpose it would serve. If it is as bad as people make out then all I would end up doing is being more annoyed about something I cannot change.
I can't be bothered to be too attached to it, or get to worked up anymore. Life is far better without worrying about s*** I cannot do anything about, as well as having far nicer distractions then overly worrying about an historically average football club.
Football is a bit of escapism for me (again now) on a Saturday afternoon away from the wife and boy wonder at home. When I get home at half 5. I park it at the door as I ain't going to let it ruin my evening
It’s all about the attachment for me and many others, I agree that perspective has to be used but I at least wish the owners to know that not all of us are of the sheep mentality and that some of us can and do get hold of information that they really don’t want to be known. In honesty my first shuddering moment was the badge kiss but we had a great couple of seasons that were built largely upon the conference team that was put together under the previous owner/regime. To be brutally honest, I’ve lost care about the football and I’ve been disabused of the thought of any building or new stadium will be built under the present lot but you can be sure that every angle will be seriously looked at lol. I’m laughing as I write as I’m just thinking how daft I and many others have been, in actually falling for yet another whacky races, Dick Dastardly scheme. Truth is I lost my trust in Rovers in the nearly season and I haven’t really had the same vim and vigour that I once had for the club nor have I truly recovered that absolute devotion but I do enjoy meeting up with a fair amount of those around my age and older. I will be eternally grateful to those wonderful supporters who came to my rescue, in my worst period in my life and I will be in or around the ground for the day out. It takes a lot out of me to stand and watch for the couple of hours I do but I just feel we had the momentum & best chance in my lifetime, to really push on but once again we just never made the most of that. I very much doubt I’d be interested in tier 4 again but bizarrely I did enjoy the non league season, go figure. I felt we entered the realms of true football in that league lol. Anyway, I have my ticket and ride sorted for tomorrow so let’s hope it’s our first home win as I believe a loss to rock bottom Plymouth will be a really pivotal point and would see changes made. I’m writing now but have totally lost any point I was even attempting to make. Probably my age, a senior moment as it were Take care fella and I really hope we don’t get back to tier 4 but I’m just losing my patience and belief.
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