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Post by sheffieldgas on Aug 11, 2018 15:57:01 GMT
At least Payne is off the mark...
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Post by gasheadpirate on Aug 11, 2018 15:57:38 GMT
Clarke will be furious. Just got back into the match and let them sneak a winner. Not very professional.
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Post by simonj on Aug 11, 2018 16:08:09 GMT
Holy sh1t that was poor. Full backs were dreadful midfield no balance, one up front. Sorry DC love you but completely down to you this one. How J Clarke gets a start above Leadbetter beats me.
Positives - our new No 9 looked very good, worked his nuts off.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 16:13:46 GMT
That was painful.
Disjointed all over the field, slow, predictable, we got exactly what we deserved. Beaten by a very limited team who have no talent but work hard. For anyone not there, the better team won, they were rubbish, we were worse.
Nichols has done nothing to improve himself over the summer, he doesn't take his career as a professional athlete seriously, needs to be shipped out to a division where he can get away with being unprepared, he should never wear our shirt again, the moment he steps onto the pitch we are playing with 10 men.
Highlight of the day, when we tried to play a short corner and looked like the Keystone Cops, all ran in to each other and gave the ball straight back to them, bloke in front of me said, ''That was a move straight off the training ground, only we don't have one of them''.
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Post by PessimistGas on Aug 11, 2018 16:31:09 GMT
Mediocrity against the Mighty Accrington.Won't be going to Wycombe. Mediocrity is a rather kind description.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 11, 2018 16:56:12 GMT
Ouch!
First of all, well played Accy. Hassled us from ball one til the end.
But.
DC makes a mistake! Nothing wrong with that, just shouldn't keep making them.
He set us up too deep with one up front again alone. That's twice we have invited teams onto us and again surrendering initiative. No surprise we conceded early, Sercombe and Bennet looked ineffective. There are two brilliantly creative players being stifled because of formation flaw.
I thought our m o m broadband. Their m o m number 7.
Payne took his goal well, brilliant cross by James Clarke from an even better ball by Ollie Clarke....the best move of match for us.
I liked their keeps.
We looked dysfunctional with the ball, worse without it. Some players tried to break frustration (Rodman and upson) but we never really got to grips with the game.
DC, to bring on Nichols (whom made one good show and turn/shot) as sub sends message you are happy with our goalscoring tally. He's not the reason we lost, he's part of the reason we don't win by not scoring.
Apart from that, had great day seeing friends and family, the bars and shops look much improved and bordering on brilliant, the staff seemed to turn up, the fans did too, such a shame players didnt and let us down .
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Post by mangogas15 on Aug 11, 2018 17:10:59 GMT
It will take time for the team to gel.
Not surprised by today.
They are not to be underestimated
I trust DC to get it right
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 11, 2018 17:12:05 GMT
That game reminded me of the Paul Buckle Bristol Rovers. Firstly, there were no big queues and the bar was fairly empty. It was a dire game from start to finish and we showed no bite nor urgency and looked as if this was another pre season game. I struggled to see any real set up per se and I saw us look second best throughout all of the game. Make no mistake, this is not just poor but also looks like either D.C. wants gone as the team had, in my eyes, 3 chances. Accrington were not good either but at least they looked they wanted the ball and we were very lucky the crossbar and upright stopped a third goal from them. Our crowd were very quiet and many were leaving very early, more than the usual suspects. If I were a betting man then I’d bet we get around a thousand less for our next home fixture. This was more than poor & i’m struggling to find a word that I can use on here that doesn’t get censored. This gives this gashead bad memories of when Nick Higgs got rid of the entire team. I can only add that I hope we somehow get some energy and desire in our players as, the way I see it, the bookies odds of 7/1 for losing L1 status, look about right. The only two players who can come off with their heads held high are Broadbent and the goal scorer. We looked lacklustre, lacking in desire and found it nearly impossible to string passes together. Awful performance and an awful day. I don’t think I have ever seen so many leave with at least 15 minutes to go
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Post by harrybuckle on Aug 11, 2018 18:03:04 GMT
Dire performance on a superb quality pitch. But admit Stanley were by far the better side and deserved their three points.
Our seventh consecutive defeat to Stanley and our fourth consecutive home defeat to them. Our real bogey side.
Payne and Rodman looked more than useful. Shame that the stat for Payne was broken..First time since Nov2015 that he has scored and ended up on the losing side.
Poorly designed matchday programme but must admit the food in the new bar was excellent.
My highlight of day for me was great to chat to Vitas Astafjevs and Sergio Ommel who were back at the Mem as guests of the Club. Both were delighted to return after many years away and warmly welcomed by gasheads.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 18:24:49 GMT
Poorly designed matchday programme but must admit the food in the new bar was excellent. Suspected that you wouldn't be a fan. This is what happens though isn't it, new people come in, all keen to show what they can do, full of brilliant ideas, they rightly change some things which are a bit rubbish but also assume that they know best and want to change other things which are perfectly good. The problem is, whoever made the decision to change how our programme is produced will be gone in considerably less time than Keith has given to Rovers, but the mistakes these people make can't always easily be put right. I thought we were the customers and the customer was always right. I'm yet to speak to anybody who is happy with what's happened with Keith.
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Post by badbloodash on Aug 11, 2018 18:33:33 GMT
Mediocrity against the Mighty Accrington.Won't be going to Wycombe. Mediocrity is a rather kind description. Did you expect anything else fans deserve better
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Aug 11, 2018 18:34:28 GMT
Disappointing performance. Disjointed, disorganised.
I don’t think we should be too kind to Daryl here, I blame him for today’s defeat more than the players. Hopefully he blames himself and learned the lessons . Firstly, The great cross for the equaliser disguises two centre backs as full backs did not help the attacking performance. Especially as the four centre backs strung across the back had olly and ed sitting deep protecting them for most the first half, whilst we were trailing.
First glance of team before kick off, gut feeling A defensive approach home against Accrington, based more on Daryl favourites than side most fans would pick. We have a better squad than to put that line up out at home to Accrington.
Worse is the numbers of changes in formation daryl makes between matches and during matches, especially at start of season in marked contrast to run ins of seasons, it Can’t possibly help the team performance. It started 4 2 3 1 with olly as centre midfielder closest to Stefan Payne. That lasted about 10 minutes. Sercombe had spells on both wings when he performs better in the middle, where he started alongside Upson. The chopping and changing and playing to players weaknesses not their strengths does not help get best possible performance from them, or team performance.
However, The players did themselves no favours, it was they who conceded the soft first goal. A messy affair with deflection off prone defender. We did show composure after that, maybe too much as rest of first half lacked any drama as our disjointed display created no pressure on the visitors.
In the second half Lady Luck smiled on us when Accrington looked more likely to score than hit woodwork. What’s frustrating is Accrington didn’t look that strong, but with our performance so poor our defeat was probably fair enough.
Stefan Payne deserved his debut goal and mom for a hard working display, with not just little service but little support from colleagues too.
I actually thought the winner was a good goal, swept in confidently by a player who believed he could score. It came about as we were chasing the game, would not have happened at all if we had been two one up. So the story from our point of view has to be how we, as the home club, floundered and wasted the previous 88 minutes.
Aside from the football, the pitch looked great. Despite the hot summer it looked like carpet. The electronic turnstile worked fine. The pasty’s over priced at £4.
A bit of booing. Not much. Fans laudably patient at the moment.
Over to you Daryl.
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Post by tauntongas on Aug 11, 2018 19:19:02 GMT
"Disjointed" seems to be the word of the day and I completely agree. My first worry, even before a ball was kicked was Tony Craig at LB and James Clarke at RB. I think they were our two weakest areas today and I fully expect Leadbitter and one of the new LB's to start against Crawley. DC mentioned about the team not "knitting" on the pitch and he was right. The midfield seemed to struggle in particular. It didn't look like the midfield were settled with the formation they were playing in and they got dragged about, bunched up and never seemed at ease or clued up enough, when moving forward. I think Upson was given a deep lying central role with Sercombe and Ollie Clarke ahead of him; Bennett and Rodman in advanced roles on each flank. We could not get on the ball for long enough in the centre of the park and we gave very poor service to Payne, Rodman and Bennett. It looked like Bennett and Sercombe may have switched around a couple of times, with each of them momentarily appearing on the left - neither to much effect. Too many times today, our defenders were in possession and they did not have the central midfielders moving enough for them, in order to play out from the back. You could see Lockyer and particularly Broadbent actively searching for a short pass but having to resort to hoofing it long to Payne, which their skyscraper CB's gobbled up. Payne deserved his debut goal and put himself about just like Ellis would have done, which was good to see. If the midfield can sort out a bit more quality in possession and with the play going forward, I don't think we will have much trouble scoring goals. I thought Tom Broadbent was very good today: solid, commanding, full of effort and didn't make any obvious mistakes from what I saw. I thought Lockyer did well, however both CB's were left exposed due to the ineffectiveness of Craig and J Clarke at full-back. Both goals we conceded were similar to one another: passing play which spread across our back line and I think on both occasions, James Clarke got sucked into the middle, leaving McConville with two gilt-edged opportunites which he duly notched. I couldn't tell if the fault for J Clarke getting pulled into the middle was lack of adequate CB/DMC coverage or whether J Clarke made the decision to come into the middle too early, when he may not have been required to. We will get better, I think we have quality in our team. I think the difference between whether we bumble along to a lower-half finish or aim to nip into the playoffs will depend upon how quickly we address the full back problems, along withour composure and quality on the ball, in midfield.
EDIT: If any of you read this, the gentlemen in the North terrace who had to deal with the drunk Gashead bumbling about and generally making a nuisance of himself today, you handled the situation very well.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 11, 2018 19:43:06 GMT
Poorly designed matchday programme but must admit the food in the new bar was excellent. Suspected that you wouldn't be a fan. I'm yet to speak to anybody who is happy with what's happened with Keith. Have you literally spoken to Keith? Not via a friend. Just asking.
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Post by Igitur on Aug 11, 2018 20:35:59 GMT
I believe there is a team in that squad, but DC needs to find it fast; that's what becomes of not having a settled squad when the season starts. What the defence coach has been doing I don't know, all four goals conceded so far were soft. Again four massive defenders across their back four so hoofing it long is stoopid. Accrington started time wasting as soon as they scored the first goal, and the ref let them. Payne looks like what we need, a bit of physical presence up front.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 20:55:47 GMT
Suspected that you wouldn't be a fan. I'm yet to speak to anybody who is happy with what's happened with Keith. Have you literally spoken to Keith? Not via a friend. Just asking. No, not spoken with Keith. Harry doesn't seem thrilled, he says that Keith is a good friend, so maybe reasonable to assume that if Keith was happy Harry would see the positives in the situation? Edit. No idea how many others who post on here read the match day rag, but nobody else has complained. Another edit. This is what Harry said when the news about Keith first broke, knowing that they've worked together on The Pirate for many years I'm happy that Mike is reporting this accurately.
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Post by mangogas15 on Aug 11, 2018 21:50:57 GMT
The Exeter game proved no one off.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 22:13:16 GMT
The Exeter game proved no one off. Shipping 4 goals to a team from.the division below is absolutely not a one-off and shame on DC if he thought it was! 2 goals, maybe 3 can be put down to a meaningless game but 4-0, at home, is shocking and it's no surprise that we have started the season in the same vein conceding 4 in 2. The poor work in the transfer window meant that our main priority coming up to deadline day was a striker completely over-shadowing the problems in defence. We need a big loan signing now to shore up the centre of defence. As usual we'll probably have to take a punt on an untested youngster and hope that they can do enough to stem the tide.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 12, 2018 6:24:13 GMT
Have you literally spoken to Keith? Not via a friend. Just asking. No, not spoken with Keith. Harry doesn't seem thrilled, he says that Keith is a good friend, so maybe reasonable to assume that if Keith was happy Harry would see the positives in the situation? Edit. No idea how many others who post on here read the match day rag, but nobody else has complained. Another edit. This is what Harry said when the news about Keith first broke, knowing that they've worked together on The Pirate for many years I'm happy that Mike is reporting this accurately. All I'm saying is, it was Keith's decision to resign. Maybe there was a reason if it's true they took the programme away from him as editor?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 10:12:04 GMT
No, not spoken with Keith. Harry doesn't seem thrilled, he says that Keith is a good friend, so maybe reasonable to assume that if Keith was happy Harry would see the positives in the situation? Edit. No idea how many others who post on here read the match day rag, but nobody else has complained. Another edit. This is what Harry said when the news about Keith first broke, knowing that they've worked together on The Pirate for many years I'm happy that Mike is reporting this accurately. All I'm saying is, it was Keith's decision to resign. Maybe there was a reason if it's true they took the programme away from him as editor? Ah, sorry, maybe should have been clearer with original comment. When I mentioned the ''treatment'' Keith had received I was refereeing to him being told that his services were no longer required as programme editor.
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