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Post by One F in Dunford on Jul 16, 2018 18:45:21 GMT
1) Is it still closing/for sale? 2) Who is going to find the £m's required if it's ever sold as "development" land? 3 July
Local residents will know the Civil Service Sports Club on Filton Avenue as a much-used and appreciated community space.
On 9th April the staff and management committee of the Bristol Area CSSC were informed in person by the CEO Simon Lee and the Director of Volunteering and Business Delivery, Andy Shaw, that the CSSC Estates Strategy recommended that the club should be closed by the end of September 2018.
The club is fighting the proposal as the popular sports and social facility is busier than ever and is a very valuable local resource. Members, visitors and local residents are angry and outraged as the timescale for consultation is far too short to allow for a fair process.
Tony Nelson, the Chair of the Bristol Area CSSC, says: ‘The club is a welcome community space in an area not over-endowed with green areas. With 13 table tennis teams it is the biggest and best equipped club in Bristol, and also hosts eight football teams, two netball teams, the largest skittles league in the area, the Ultimate Frisbee Club (their women’s team will be competing at the World Championships in the USA this summer) and many other sports besides. Ashley Down and Filton Avenue schools use the playing fields for sports and wildlife days, having no grounds of their own. Sporting facilities aside, the club function rooms are constantly busy accommodating societies and groups, seminars, meetings, team building exercises, wedding receptions, wakes and parties, among other events and the club’s annual fireworks display is renowned in the area for its excellence and charitable Fundraising. In these days of growing obesity and concern over inactivity, the importance of physical exercise is universally recognised as beneficial for our health and well-being and it goes counter to common sense to close this popular, well-used and well-equipped sporting Venue.’
The Bristol committee are managing the campaign to keep the club open and encourage all those who feel strongly about this proposal to email their comments to handsoffourclub@bristolcssc.co.uk . They will then be included as part of the submission to the CSSC
I believe the Civil Service Club membership, had now been told that the club can now stay open until at least April 2019.
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Post by droitwichgas on Jul 16, 2018 20:30:54 GMT
Planning was due in around 4-6 weeks ago as per official news , from Steve Hamer. Still, many are happy to swallow the tents and a bar improvement so I guess we really do get the team we deserve That wasn't official news at all, Hamer made the comments at the AGM which only shareholders were permitted entry to. The hold up in the planning permission for the colony remains unclear, I've seen many people blame the owners but it is still possible the delay is at the south Gloucestershire planning council end of things. Can you actually get anything more "official" than a company Chairman informing shareholders at an AGM? Perhaps we are just being strung along by the owners, as it's hard to believe how we've gone from having both a new stadium & training ground to just now getting three new temp. stands at the Mem!
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Post by axegas on Jul 16, 2018 21:06:09 GMT
That wasn't official news at all, Hamer made the comments at the AGM which only shareholders were permitted entry to. The hold up in the planning permission for the colony remains unclear, I've seen many people blame the owners but it is still possible the delay is at the south Gloucestershire planning council end of things. Can you actually get anything more "official" than a company Chairman informing shareholders at an AGM? Perhaps we are just being strung along by the owners, as it's hard to believe how we've gone from having both a new stadium & training ground to just now getting three new temp. stands at the Mem! Depends what your definition of official is. I would consider a statement on the clubs website or an interview to the local media to be official, not the word of a chairman behind close doors. We haven’t gone from getting from a new stadium to three temp stands. There was a piece in the post just today in which the new CEO emphasised that the developments going on at the mem over the summer are a temporary improvement to the match day experience whilst the owners carry out substantial long term plans. What these plans are is still unknown which is very frustrating I must admit but I’m pretty certain that the owners would not brazenly disregard their promise to “provide the supporters with modern beautiful facilities to watch great football in” as the Al Qadi’s boldly stated after the collapse of the stadium at UWE. To do so would provoke consternation and outrage towards them.
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Post by a more piratey game on Jul 16, 2018 22:19:52 GMT
Can you actually get anything more "official" than a company Chairman informing shareholders at an AGM? Perhaps we are just being strung along by the owners, as it's hard to believe how we've gone from having both a new stadium & training ground to just now getting three new temp. stands at the Mem! Depends what your definition of official is. I would consider a statement on the clubs website or an interview to the local media to be official, not the word of a chairman behind close doors. We haven’t gone from getting from a new stadium to three temp stands. There was a piece in the post just today in which the new CEO emphasised that the developments going on at the mem over the summer are a temporary improvement to the match day experience whilst the owners carry out substantial long term plans. 'Substantial'?
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Post by a more piratey game on Jul 16, 2018 22:22:01 GMT
The word of a chairman before a meeting of shareholders being, of course, just idle banter designed merely to pass the time of day
Oh, hang on, that's the opposite of right, isn't it?
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Post by swissgas on Jul 16, 2018 22:48:29 GMT
Can you actually get anything more "official" than a company Chairman informing shareholders at an AGM? Perhaps we are just being strung along by the owners, as it's hard to believe how we've gone from having both a new stadium & training ground to just now getting three new temp. stands at the Mem! Depends what your definition of official is. I would consider a statement on the clubs website or an interview to the local media to be official, not the word of a chairman behind close doors. We haven’t gone from getting from a new stadium to three temp stands. There was a piece in the post just today in which the new CEO emphasised that the developments going on at the mem over the summer are a temporary improvement to the match day experience whilst the owners carry out substantial long term plans. What these plans are is still unknown which is very frustrating I must admit but I’m pretty certain that the owners would not brazenly disregard their promise to “provide the supporters with modern beautiful facilities to watch great football in” as the Al Qadi’s boldly stated after the collapse of the stadium at UWE. To do so would provoke consternation and outrage towards them. I should not be surprised if any owners of Bristol Rovers brazenly disregarded their promises. They know the majority of Rovers supporters will believe whatever they are told and so they can give rash promises and raise false expectations being fully aware that they will never be asked to substantiate what they say.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 0:04:58 GMT
Depends what your definition of official is. I would consider a statement on the clubs website or an interview to the local media to be official, not the word of a chairman behind close doors. We haven’t gone from getting from a new stadium to three temp stands. There was a piece in the post just today in which the new CEO emphasised that the developments going on at the mem over the summer are a temporary improvement to the match day experience whilst the owners carry out substantial long term plans. What these plans are is still unknown which is very frustrating I must admit but I’m pretty certain that the owners would not brazenly disregard their promise to “provide the supporters with modern beautiful facilities to watch great football in” as the Al Qadi’s boldly stated after the collapse of the stadium at UWE. To do so would provoke consternation and outrage towards them. I should not be surprised if any owners of Bristol Rovers brazenly disregarded their promises. They know the majority of Rovers supporters will believe whatever they are told and so they can give rash promises and raise false expectations being fully aware that they will never be asked to substantiate what they say. A child like and very patronising post. "Most stupid fans will accept anything the owners say,its only intelligent people like me who know better" Thats what your saying in effect along with a few others but other people who have a more positive view are not "believing everything they are told" they are simply weighing up the all the information and feeling positive about bristol rovers. In life nobody knows for sure what will happen and the same applies to BRFC,thats how it is and its up to individuals to feel positive or in your case ultra negative.
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 17, 2018 7:16:02 GMT
Bristol Rovers CEO Martyn Starnes explained: “The work going on at the Mem right now is not the discussed development of the stadium. This is to try and improve what we have got while we try to develop a long-term plan..." To conclude. One year on from the UWE debacle - we still do not have a long term plan in place. Disappointing, but not unexpected. UTG. there's another example.....it was said that we had a Plan B. It seems that in fact we didn't I guess we knew we didn’t have a plan B last August after the UWE went belly up. Not the new CEOs fault and the comment from him is what would be expected. I’m glad to see they are trying to develop new income streams and improve attendances and match day experience. Seems very sensible to me. Good to see short term gains being sought. Longer term ground development will have to wait! UTG!
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Post by Igitur on Jul 17, 2018 8:48:02 GMT
We have got to give Martyn Starnes a chance.
In the recent interview with BP he said, "... I mean technology has changed dramatically over the years and football has maybe been slow to react in the past but with the help of the EFL we are all getting good information and help about CRM systems and how to communicate better with fans...I know some fans might say, not just at this club, that football clubs don't communicate very well with their fans, but football clubs are communicating better than ever with their fans because of all the mediums available now. It used to be just the match day programme and the local press but it is now the club website and social media, podcasts - you name it. And we have to be in the vanguard of that."
Here's to more communication, bring it on and not through iFollow.
There is a gradual evolution, but a new stadium is the least some fans expect and I can understand that both in terms of promises made and aspirations. This season is going to be vital.
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Post by Igitur on Jul 17, 2018 9:15:49 GMT
Credit for reporting back for training pictures was:
Ryan Hiscott/JMP - 02/07/2018 - FOOTBALL - Cribbs Sports and Social Club - Bristol, England
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jul 17, 2018 11:43:45 GMT
1) Is it still closing/for sale? 2) Who is going to find the £m's required if it's ever sold as "development" land? 3 July
Local residents will know the Civil Service Sports Club on Filton Avenue as a much-used and appreciated community space.
On 9th April the staff and management committee of the Bristol Area CSSC were informed in person by the CEO Simon Lee and the Director of Volunteering and Business Delivery, Andy Shaw, that the CSSC Estates Strategy recommended that the club should be closed by the end of September 2018.
The club is fighting the proposal as the popular sports and social facility is busier than ever and is a very valuable local resource. Members, visitors and local residents are angry and outraged as the timescale for consultation is far too short to allow for a fair process.
Tony Nelson, the Chair of the Bristol Area CSSC, says: ‘The club is a welcome community space in an area not over-endowed with green areas. With 13 table tennis teams it is the biggest and best equipped club in Bristol, and also hosts eight football teams, two netball teams, the largest skittles league in the area, the Ultimate Frisbee Club (their women’s team will be competing at the World Championships in the USA this summer) and many other sports besides. Ashley Down and Filton Avenue schools use the playing fields for sports and wildlife days, having no grounds of their own. Sporting facilities aside, the club function rooms are constantly busy accommodating societies and groups, seminars, meetings, team building exercises, wedding receptions, wakes and parties, among other events and the club’s annual fireworks display is renowned in the area for its excellence and charitable Fundraising. In these days of growing obesity and concern over inactivity, the importance of physical exercise is universally recognised as beneficial for our health and well-being and it goes counter to common sense to close this popular, well-used and well-equipped sporting Venue.’
The Bristol committee are managing the campaign to keep the club open and encourage all those who feel strongly about this proposal to email their comments to handsoffourclub@bristolcssc.co.uk . They will then be included as part of the submission to the CSSC
So, the words of our chairman are just hollow and a bit of banter then ?
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Post by swissgas on Jul 17, 2018 14:46:19 GMT
I should not be surprised if any owners of Bristol Rovers brazenly disregarded their promises. They know the majority of Rovers supporters will believe whatever they are told and so they can give rash promises and raise false expectations being fully aware that they will never be asked to substantiate what they say. A child like and very patronising post. "Most stupid fans will accept anything the owners say,its only intelligent people like me who know better" Thats what your saying in effect along with a few others but other people who have a more positive view are not "believing everything they are told" they are simply weighing up the all the information and feeling positive about bristol rovers. In life nobody knows for sure what will happen and the same applies to BRFC,thats how it is and its up to individuals to feel positive or in your case ultra negative. I'm sorry you feel that way. Posters who put forward alternative viewpoints are often described as ultra negative but is that really the case ? Isn't it really that agreeing with club/owners statements or justifying their actions is a viewed as positive only because it is classed as being loyal to the cause ? If fans really did weigh up all the information don't you think the outcome would be a wide variety of opinions rather than the default position of you are either with us or against us " ? To give you an example of what I am saying here is a topic I started on New Years day 2018 " At the present time spending cash on a training ground would be well down on my list of priorities but, in the midst of all the confusion coming from the club, a consistent message we hear from Steve Hamer and Wael is that “the training ground will go ahead”. So rather than criticise or harp on about this decision I think it makes sense to encourage them to make the project a success.
The current planning permission is for a 4000 sq ft club house with eight changing rooms, a tiny office, a lounge bar, a kitchen, six rugby pitches, two training pitches, parking for 214 cars and 8 coaches. It’s perfect for an amateur rugby club but not at all suitable for a professional football club which is why there has been muffled talk about project managers and a new planning application. Wael implied he wanted to obtain permission for a full size complex, perhaps similar to Fleetwood’s, and then build it stage by stage but I wonder whether he has thought this through ? Such an approach appeals to many fans who are eager for something good to finally happen at Rovers but from a business perspective why waste time with a complicated planning application and risk missing the projected July 1st 2019 opening date ? And why spend extra cash on plans for a huge development which cannot be financed in the foreseeable future and which will only raise expectations unnecessarily? Wouldn’t it be better to come up with something realistic which meets our current needs and to do it extremely well ?
I was once given the advice that when you have a difficult business situation and are fighting on many fronts there is a danger of spreading your resources too thinly and by doing so finding that you are actually failing everywhere.If you are able to manage it there is a big advantage to be gained by giving special attention to one area and concentrating on creating excellence there. In this way you demonstrate to all stakeholders that you are capable of achieving success and inspire them to keep supporting you. Once you have achieved that success it provides something tangible to build on and the business is able to progress (or evolve) from a culture of mediocrity to a culture of excellence.
The training ground project would give Wael and Steve the opportunity to put this theory into practise and make a fresh start in 2018. We can’t go back to the attitude of the old regime which was “we’ll tell you what you need to know when we’re good and ready”. This is a chance to build a completely new culture at Rovers where fans are involved in the development at every stage and can follow it through from initial planning to final completion in 2019. But please please please use a professional PR company to manage the publicity process so that in taking a first step towards bringing our facilities up to date we also start to project a professional 21st century image for the club. "
Four days later, on January 4th, it was announced that a firm from Cheltenham had been appointed to manage the project. Great news I thought, this is positive, we may be making the breakthrough I had hoped for and even though we are all disappointed about the UWE and it may be difficult to accomplish the major redevelopment of the Mem which has been promised at least we have something positive to focus on. Seven months later and there has been no further communication on the training ground project. But when the subject is brought up many fans jump to defend the lack of communication and lack of action and put forward every conceivable reason for why we haven't heard anything. Is this really a positive action and do their efforts to stay loyal to the cause actually help Bristol Rovers ? I would contend that putting forward new ideas and offering constructive criticism where appropriate is a far more positive thing to do than constantly trying to defend inaction and broken promises.
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Swiss You obviously have a bee in your bonnet over the current owners. I agree that the issue over communication is real, I do not think that the current owners have managed expectations well. However, looking at things in the round we are in a far better place than we were before they took over. Plus, short of the owners throwing even more cash at the club, I cannot see how the training ground is to be financed and built. As for the UWE, well that was a house of cards from the beginning. Finally, what alternative is there? New owners? More debt? Reality bites
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Swiss You obviously have a bee in your bonnet over the current owners. I agree that the issue over communication is real, I do not think that the current owners have managed expectations well. However, looking at things in the round we are in a far better place than we were before they took over. Plus, short of the owners throwing even more cash at the club, I cannot see how the training ground is to be financed and built. As for the UWE, well that was a house of cards from the beginning. Finally, what alternative is there? New owners? More debt? Reality bites I agree with UWE, we never found out how the previous owners were going to finance the thing, but the new owners, it seemed fair to assume had a plan, that seemed to be a large part of what they were buying in to. The training ground is an odd one. You make it sound as if we are being unreasonable in demanding that they provide the facility, have you forgotten that it was these owners that went into the market and purchased the site, they didn't inherit this project with the club. Are we in a better place? OK, external debt has been eliminated, but the level of debt now stands hugely higher, so for me the question would be, have we achieved good value for the additional money spent? I'm struggling to see where a lot of it has gone to be truthful.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 8:41:15 GMT
Swiss You obviously have a bee in your bonnet over the current owners. I agree that the issue over communication is real, I do not think that the current owners have managed expectations well. However, looking at things in the round we are in a far better place than we were before they took over. Plus, short of the owners throwing even more cash at the club, I cannot see how the training ground is to be financed and built. As for the UWE, well that was a house of cards from the beginning. Finally, what alternative is there? New owners? More debt? Reality bites I agree with UWE, we never found out how the previous owners were going to finance the thing, but the new owners, it seemed fair to assume had a plan, that seemed to be a large part of what they were buying in to. The training ground is an odd one. You make it sound as if we are being unreasonable in demanding that they provide the facility, have you forgotten that it was these owners that went into the market and purchased the site, they didn't inherit this project with the club. Are we in a better place? OK, external debt has been eliminated, but the level of debt now stands hugely higher, so for me the question would be, have we achieved good value for the additional money spent? I'm struggling to see where a lot of it has gone to be truthful. Fair comment. On the debt. The club was losing £1m a year, or thereabouts, so we would gave been about £2.5m further in debt anyway. I can remember what the debt was when they bought it, about €3m as I recall. So if they just trended that would have been £5.5m. What is it now, £10m to 11m? Let's say £5.5 over trend then. Allowing for increased staff costs, management, coaching, development squad and back of house management that's still an awful lot of money over what, 2.5 years?. I agree, where has it all gone
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Post by swissgas on Jul 18, 2018 14:26:17 GMT
Swiss You obviously have a bee in your bonnet over the current owners. I agree that the issue over communication is real, I do not think that the current owners have managed expectations well. However, looking at things in the round we are in a far better place than we were before they took over. Plus, short of the owners throwing even more cash at the club, I cannot see how the training ground is to be financed and built. As for the UWE, well that was a house of cards from the beginning. Finally, what alternative is there? New owners? More debt? Reality bites The essence of it is that I have difficulty coming to terms with the fact that so many people today say things they don't mean. When you have people who look up to you and in a way depend on you it is, IMO, critical that you speak and act responsibly. If Nick Higgs and Wael had been straight with us and said "look we have a limited amount of resources which we can allocate to Rovers and this is what we plan to do" then I think a lot of fans who have had experience of leading people and having people dependent on them would have been sympathetic and rallied behind them. Instead we have had these wild promises of first a new stadium then a fully redeveloped stadium and in the middle of it all a new training ground. At the risk of upsetting some people I have to say these promises could only be believed on the basis of fans thinking "they are rich people they must know what they are doing". Now the reality of prefabricated steel stands and refurbished bars and shops instead of a brand new stadium has bitten us. I am afraid the next reality to bite may be that Wael and his family are unable or unwilling to subsidise Rovers to the tune of £2 million per year. "They say they are and that is good enough for me" is the cry but unfortunately, as we all know, people say things they don't mean.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 16:07:42 GMT
Swiss You obviously have a bee in your bonnet over the current owners. I agree that the issue over communication is real, I do not think that the current owners have managed expectations well. However, looking at things in the round we are in a far better place than we were before they took over. Plus, short of the owners throwing even more cash at the club, I cannot see how the training ground is to be financed and built. As for the UWE, well that was a house of cards from the beginning. Finally, what alternative is there? New owners? More debt? Reality bites The essence of it is that I have difficulty coming to terms with the fact that so many people today say things they don't mean. When you have people who look up to you and in a way depend on you it is, IMO, critical that you speak and act responsibly. If Nick Higgs and Wael had been straight with us and said "look we have a limited amount of resources which we can allocate to Rovers and this is what we plan to do" then I think a lot of fans who have had experience of leading people and having people dependent on them would have been sympathetic and rallied behind them. Instead we have had these wild promises of first a new stadium then a fully redeveloped stadium and in the middle of it all a new training ground. At the risk of upsetting some people I have to say these promises could only be believed on the basis of fans thinking "they are rich people they must know what they are doing". Now the reality of prefabricated steel stands and refurbished bars and shops instead of a brand new stadium has bitten us. I am afraid the next reality to bite may be that Wael and his family are unable or unwilling to subsidise Rovers to the tune of £2 million per year. "They say they are and that is good enough for me" is the cry but unfortunately, as we all know, people say things they don't mean. I don't think they have unlimited funds. As such it stands to reason that they will stop funding the cash burn at some point. Now, I don't know this, obviously, but it appears to me that they are looking to DC to get us in the championship in the current ground, sweat that asset as much as possible at that level and then look to sell. That makes sense to me, if they achieve that aim then you can see the attraction of Bristol, economically, with a club with a solid support base, one division below the riches of the Premier League. An in on the cheap. To some insane up his or her own ass far eastern investor with liquidity or assets coming out of their ears. It will be the end of The Gas as we know it, but hey, we die and the kids won't give a f.
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Post by droitwichgas on Jul 18, 2018 20:22:30 GMT
The essence of it is that I have difficulty coming to terms with the fact that so many people today say things they don't mean. When you have people who look up to you and in a way depend on you it is, IMO, critical that you speak and act responsibly. If Nick Higgs and Wael had been straight with us and said "look we have a limited amount of resources which we can allocate to Rovers and this is what we plan to do" then I think a lot of fans who have had experience of leading people and having people dependent on them would have been sympathetic and rallied behind them. Instead we have had these wild promises of first a new stadium then a fully redeveloped stadium and in the middle of it all a new training ground. At the risk of upsetting some people I have to say these promises could only be believed on the basis of fans thinking "they are rich people they must know what they are doing". Now the reality of prefabricated steel stands and refurbished bars and shops instead of a brand new stadium has bitten us. I am afraid the next reality to bite may be that Wael and his family are unable or unwilling to subsidise Rovers to the tune of £2 million per year. "They say they are and that is good enough for me" is the cry but unfortunately, as we all know, people say things they don't mean. I don't think they have unlimited funds. As such it stands to reason that they will stop funding the cash burn at some point. Now, I don't know this, obviously, but it appears to me that they are looking to DC to get us in the championship in the current ground, sweat that asset as much as possible at that level and then look to sell. That makes sense to me, if they achieve that aim then you can see the attraction of Bristol, economically, with a club with a solid support base, one division below the riches of the Premier League. An in on the cheap. To some insane up his or her own ass far eastern investor with liquidity or assets coming out of their ears. It will be the end of The Gas as we know it, but hey, we die and the kids won't give a f. Getting promoted at all costs seems to have been the policy adopted by Aston Villa's latest owner and look where that's now left them, although to be fair to him if they had won, rather than lost, the Play Off final the gamble would have been worthwhile. However, if we did somehow gain promotion would we really be that much financially better off when the Mem is already virtually at capacity due to the lack of seating? Is another foreign investor really going to come in and pay back the ALQ's, by then £15m+ outlay just because we were a Championship side, one which would most likely by a Div one side again soon w/o massive investment? What happens if we never make the CHampionship & DC eventually gets head hunted, what happens then with regards to clear the debts. I can't work out if Wael is just a daydreamer (what was is actually career intentions/path before the ALQ's bought the club?) and he span some tell about building the UWE but never really had the financial backing to do it or somebody somewhere disrupted his plans. I can't understand why The Colony plans nwo seem to have been mothballed as in the big scale of things spending another £2/3m on that seems small fry. Plus why is a mid table Div 1 club employing a Chairman and CEO but not an FD.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 20:39:03 GMT
The essence of it is that I have difficulty coming to terms with the fact that so many people today say things they don't mean. When you have people who look up to you and in a way depend on you it is, IMO, critical that you speak and act responsibly. If Nick Higgs and Wael had been straight with us and said "look we have a limited amount of resources which we can allocate to Rovers and this is what we plan to do" then I think a lot of fans who have had experience of leading people and having people dependent on them would have been sympathetic and rallied behind them. Instead we have had these wild promises of first a new stadium then a fully redeveloped stadium and in the middle of it all a new training ground. At the risk of upsetting some people I have to say these promises could only be believed on the basis of fans thinking "they are rich people they must know what they are doing". Now the reality of prefabricated steel stands and refurbished bars and shops instead of a brand new stadium has bitten us. I am afraid the next reality to bite may be that Wael and his family are unable or unwilling to subsidise Rovers to the tune of £2 million per year. "They say they are and that is good enough for me" is the cry but unfortunately, as we all know, people say things they don't mean. I don't think they have unlimited funds. As such it stands to reason that they will stop funding the cash burn at some point. Now, I don't know this, obviously, but it appears to me that they are looking to DC to get us in the championship in the current ground, sweat that asset as much as possible at that level and then look to sell. That makes sense to me, if they achieve that aim then you can see the attraction of Bristol, economically, with a club with a solid support base, one division below the riches of the Premier League. An in on the cheap. To some insane up his or her own ass far eastern investor with liquidity or assets coming out of their ears. It will be the end of The Gas as we know it, but hey, we die and the kids won't give a f. More than one person has suggested to me that they think what may be happening with the training ground and the staff structure, coupled with the talk of the potential to develop the existing site, is that they are trying to put together a 'DIY Championship club' for an investor to come along and snap up. Probably just pub talk though.
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Post by eppinggas on Jul 18, 2018 21:37:39 GMT
When Wael said he was "in it for the long run" - I guess it rather depends on what your definition of "long run" actually is. And he can't say anything other than this anyway. Whatever.
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