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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2014 14:08:19 GMT
I would assume that is still the case,but JM likes to talk to others as well to get a more balanced view Just to clarify then, we both agree that JM et al are responsible for inputting their own copy into the system. That being the case, whatever they input is exactly what is printed, as they have bypassed all the other departments of production. In effect they fulfill all the functions of production from producing their written copy through all the origination departments, and directly to the plate makers department. But with all respect to yourself, I fail to see how ''JM talking to others as well to get a more balanced view,'' has any impact on the production process. Surely the talking to others side of it comes first, and has no impact on what follows later on? Maybe i wasnt quite clear in what i was trying to say,JM sends his report to Didcot? where it is picked up by perhaps a news desk? or sub editor who then retypes? it for printing,that is where a lot of errors occur.As for making printers redundant i have a number of friends who worhed for DRG.FP at Fishponds who were made redundant to usher in the new technological age,load of rubbish really just a way of cutting costs and making more profit,bugger the workers |
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Post by brizzle on Aug 1, 2014 15:43:31 GMT
Just to clarify then, we both agree that JM et al are responsible for inputting their own copy into the system. That being the case, whatever they input is exactly what is printed, as they have bypassed all the other departments of production. In effect they fulfill all the functions of production from producing their written copy through all the origination departments, and directly to the plate makers department. But with all respect to yourself, I fail to see how ''JM talking to others as well to get a more balanced view,'' has any impact on the production process. Surely the talking to others side of it comes first, and has no impact on what follows later on? Maybe i wasnt quite clear in what i was trying to say,JM sends his report to Didcot? where it is picked up by perhaps a news desk? or sub editor who then retypes? it for printing,that is where a lot of errors occur.As for making printers redundant i have a number of friends who worhed for DRG.FP at Fishponds who were made redundant to usher in the new technological age,load of rubbish really just a way of cutting costs and making more profit, bugger the workersBugger the workers indeed, padstow. As I posted previously, my working background was the local provincial press, in my case the Evening Post and the Western Daily Press, which was decimated thanks to ''new technology,'' and the determination of the employers together with the Newspaper Publishers Association, to completely decimate the established methods of production for their own benefit. The way in which the employees were treated by the employers was, and is, a disgrace, but all quite legal of course. And all for what, eh? I should think that the circulation figures would speak for themselves. The mere fact that the Bristol United Press no longer prints in Temple Way, Bristol speaks volumes. As you say the origination takes place in Didcot(?), and the printing in South Wales(?). That's all very local 'ennit, but extremely cost effective. I suppose the acid-test question here would be, do you still buy it? But what about the quality of the product, and the quality of the journalism, eh? 'Nuff said. Incidentally padstow, when you posted that you had considered a job at the Western Daily Press, did you deal with the Editor Eric Price, or the Sports Editor Herbert Gillam (a well-known sh**head). Poor old Herbert took a fair amount of stick from what was a predominantly a Rovers dominated Composing Room. |
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Post by mehewmagic on Aug 1, 2014 16:14:26 GMT
The paper is an embarrassment. McNamara and Stockhausen are beyond useless as well. JM did not have anything to do with that article and when i contacted him he said it was a non story on a slow news week to try to sell more papers.If you speak to James you will find he is at the training ground every day and then the mem to chase up any new activities that may be in the pipeline.I think the namea and accusations made on here about him are disgusting and unfair on a man doing his job as well as he can. James is a decent bloke and a decent reporter. I don't know why people seem to feel the need to get personal by having a pop at him and Stockhausen. It's just not civil. And there are so many other things / variables to take into account, including sub-editing, time constraints etc.
I suspect the club give him nothing, which makes his job harder as well.
Gone are the old days when everyone scratched each others' backs.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2014 14:01:35 GMT
Maybe i wasnt quite clear in what i was trying to say,JM sends his report to Didcot? where it is picked up by perhaps a news desk? or sub editor who then retypes? it for printing,that is where a lot of errors occur.As for making printers redundant i have a number of friends who worhed for DRG.FP at Fishponds who were made redundant to usher in the new technological age,load of rubbish really just a way of cutting costs and making more profit, bugger the workersBugger the workers indeed, padstow. As I posted previously, my working background was the local provincial press, in my case the Evening Post and the Western Daily Press, which was decimated thanks to ''new technology,'' and the determination of the employers together with the Newspaper Publishers Association, to completely decimate the established methods of production for their own benefit. The way in which the employees were treated by the employers was, and is, a disgrace, but all quite legal of course. And all for what, eh? I should think that the circulation figures would speak for themselves. The mere fact that the Bristol United Press no longer prints in Temple Way, Bristol speaks volumes. As you say the origination takes place in Didcot(?), and the printing in South Wales(?). That's all very local 'ennit, but extremely cost effective. I suppose the acid-test question here would be, do you still buy it? But what about the quality of the product, and the quality of the journalism, eh? 'Nuff said. Incidentally padstow, when you posted that you had considered a job at the Western Daily Press, did you deal with the Editor Eric Price, or the Sports Editor Herbert Gillam (a well-known sh**head). Poor old Herbert took a fair amount of stick from what was a predominantly a Rovers dominated Composing Room. Didnt get that far,was told of vacancies but as soon as night work was mentioned you couldnt see my a.. for dust |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2014 14:03:40 GMT
JM did not have anything to do with that article and when i contacted him he said it was a non story on a slow news week to try to sell more papers.If you speak to James you will find he is at the training ground every day and then the mem to chase up any new activities that may be in the pipeline.I think the namea and accusations made on here about him are disgusting and unfair on a man doing his job as well as he can. James is a decent bloke and a decent reporter. I don't know why people seem to feel the need to get personal by having a pop at him and Stockhausen. It's just not civil. And there are so many other things / variables to take into account, including sub-editing, time constraints etc.
I suspect the club give him nothing, which makes his job harder as well.
Gone are the old days when everyone scratched each others' backs.
True James is a thoroughly decent man,he does get a lot of info from the club but as brizzle said his report goes through many hands before a cocked up version is printed |
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