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Post by frenchgashead on Jul 30, 2014 10:16:13 GMT
I don't think this story is there by accident. It's not hopeless BEP journalism making up a story. Clearly UWE initiated it with the BEP and briefed them yesterday. They are getting their defence in first. They think the scheme is going to fall flat on its face because of Sainsbury's and they want to make it clear they have better options (business school) and they won't rescue the stadium. Judging by the UWE remarks they seem to hope the stadium scheme will fail.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jul 30, 2014 10:28:31 GMT
I don't think this story is there by accident. It's not hopeless BEP journalism making up a story. Clearly UWE initiated it with the BEP and briefed them yesterday. They are getting their defence in first. They think the scheme is going to fall flat on its face because of Sainsbury's and they want to make it clear they have better options (business school) and they won't rescue the stadium. Judging by the UWE remarks they seem to hope the stadium scheme will fail. That's an extreme interpretation. They're already building a business school. They have enough land to build other stuff. It's not an either/or situation.
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Jul 30, 2014 11:09:21 GMT
Don't they give graduate journalists a run-out in the holiday season to help them learn from their mistakes?
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Post by phillistine on Jul 30, 2014 11:10:16 GMT
I don't think this story is there by accident. It's not hopeless BEP journalism making up a story. Clearly UWE initiated it with the BEP and briefed them yesterday. They are getting their defence in first. They think the scheme is going to fall flat on its face because of Sainsbury's and they want to make it clear they have better options (business school) and they won't rescue the stadium. Judging by the UWE remarks they seem to hope the stadium scheme will fail. This would seem to indicate that UWE make their long term plans up as they go along which is obviously not true. In the ideal world they would love the whole site dedicated to academia but they cant afford to do this. They looked at their options before entering into a contract with Rovers and decided that the stadium was the best way forward as it gave them excellent facilities with very little impact on their own budget. This is a common sense statement from UWE with no hidden agendas. Can you imagine what would be said if it was announced that UWE had to cut back on the investment in education as they had financed the build of a new stadium for Bristol Rovers. Heads would roll and rightly so .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2014 11:36:26 GMT
Maybe I'm the only one, but I think it's a good little story.
UWE let everyone know exactly where they stand, either Rovers pay for the stadium or it doesn't happen, and they have a Plan B. Clear communication, where's the problem?
There was a rumour that UWE may build a scaled down stadium / athletics facility, but this statement makes it clear that won't be happening.
If everybody gave statements that were as clear and unambiguous as this we would have a lot less to gossip about, but we would all know exactly where we stood.
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Post by singupgas on Jul 30, 2014 12:01:09 GMT
Will just get on and build the damnn stadium, losing patience myself, surely someone must know a rough date of when we intend on starting the build. A vague 'later in the year' doesn't quite cut it. It is going on and on then. Like getting blood from a stone age from all parties involved. Best for fans to just concentrate on supporting the side on the pitch. If stadium isn't not in dev by September/October I'm not sure it will ever, if started later does that mean we won't move in until start of 17/18 season??
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 30, 2014 12:14:03 GMT
TL suggested at last week's Q&A it would be later this summer, not later this year, so in my view that's Sept/Oct. What's surprising is UWE have gone to press on this subject as you'd hope they'd see NH is trying to progress the development.....unless he isn't?
UWE do seem to changing track though as I thought they were excited about becoming a US type sports uni with UWE Stadium's help plus the stadium's suppose to unlock £200m of development mostly on their own land?
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Post by aghast on Jul 30, 2014 14:40:12 GMT
Clearly UWE initiated it with the BEP and briefed them yesterday. They are getting their defence in first. They think the scheme is going to fall flat on its face because of Sainsbury's. I am thinking exactly the opposite happened. I think a bored BEP sports reporter phoned UWE and asked "If Sainsbury's pull out of the Memorial Stadium deal, will UWE pay for the stadium instead?" And the reply which followed from UWE then makes sense (with a few expletives deleted).
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Post by stevek192 on Jul 30, 2014 14:48:34 GMT
Yet another Board bashing from Mr PeterHooper57 just for a change. It is hardly surprising that the Board are reluctant to divulge information.Wrong if they do and wrong if they dont.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2014 14:51:44 GMT
Yet another Board bashing from Mr PeterHooper57 just for a change. It is hardly surprising that the Board are reluctant to divulge information.Wrong if they do and wrong if they dont. Great minds think a like, i posted much the same a few posts up ! He is another member of the secret society with a hidden agenda
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Post by aghast on Jul 30, 2014 14:53:52 GMT
Yet another Board bashing from Mr PeterHooper57 just for a change. It is hardly surprising that the Board are reluctant to divulge information.Wrong if they do and wrong if they dont. They're also bashed for building the UWE (a distraction) and bashed for not building it (incompetetent).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2014 15:40:25 GMT
Yet another Board bashing from Mr PeterHooper57 just for a change. It is hardly surprising that the Board are reluctant to divulge information.Wrong if they do and wrong if they dont. Great minds think a like, i posted much the same a few posts up ! He is another member of the secret society with a hidden agenda Rubbish. No secret societies or hidden agendas, just people who want to comment honestly and openly about the club, what's good and what's not so good, that includes how they feel about the performance of the BoD. We are now a non-League club remember, football people up and down the country are looking and asking how Rovers, with their support base, have managed to finish 91st out of 92 clubs, and have run up record losses achieving it. Of course the board are being criticised. They have an awful lot of work to do to gain back trust and respect, and I think they know that. It looks to me like you would have fitted in nicely at Salem.
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Post by singupgas on Jul 30, 2014 16:09:58 GMT
Yet another Board bashing from Mr PeterHooper57 just for a change. It is hardly surprising that the Board are reluctant to divulge information.Wrong if they do and wrong if they dont. Great minds think a like, i posted much the same a few posts up ! He is another member of the secret society with a hidden agenda SteveK you were one of the most negative forum members on the old forum. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. People in power are measured by thier success, until uwe is in the building process you can't say there has been any. People will applaud and appreciate the bod efforts when they are sat in thier plastic seats.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2014 17:23:29 GMT
SteveK was only negative about what he saw on the pitch,and he was right Mr Ward's brand of football was the most negative tosh ever.
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Post by gasheadnaboo on Jul 30, 2014 18:30:26 GMT
Yet another Board bashing from Mr PeterHooper57 just for a change. It is hardly surprising that the Board are reluctant to divulge information.Wrong if they do and wrong if they dont. They're also bashed for building the UWE (a distraction) and bashed for not building it (incompetetent). You're talking bulls**t, no one has criticised them for attempting to have it built.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2014 18:56:14 GMT
I have read few times about the board taking their eye off the playing side,concentrating to much on the UWE,as one of the reasons we went down,i believe that is what aghast was refering to
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Post by aghast on Jul 30, 2014 20:56:49 GMT
They're also bashed for building the UWE (a distraction) and bashed for not building it (incompetetent). You're talking bulls***, no one has criticised them for attempting to have it built. A bit harsh that, and also untrue.
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Post by aghast on Jul 30, 2014 21:02:40 GMT
I have read few times about the board taking their eye off the playing side,concentrating to much on the UWE,as one of the reasons we went down,i believe that is what aghast was refering to That is exactly what I was referring to, so thank you meadgas. Now there may be some substance in that. Or there may not. There may also be some substance in the suggestions that if the UWE build fails, the Board are failures. My point was that build it now or not, the Board will be criticised either way.
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Post by LincsBlue on Jul 30, 2014 21:21:02 GMT
Cant believe they never reported that the chocolate hobknobs have been taken off the tea trolley... I can't believe they never reported that the tea trolley has been sold to Cambridge and we now have their old tray
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Post by lincolnfan on Jul 30, 2014 22:45:14 GMT
My views are pretty irrelevant because I am not a member of your club but I really think it hard to trust Sainsbury in such matters. It's not entirely their fault (perhaps) because like all the majors they are in a period of upheaval on how to cope with the rise of Aldi et al. Sainsbury of course are bringing back Netto to cope!
Although clearly a brilliant new stadium would be a feather in the cap of your club I just wonder what would happen with it if you have the misfortune to be stuck in the Conference for a few seasons. That size of stadium would at best be incongruous given the attendances and the away support of the Conference and I just wonder how much sponsorship of real value you would be able to attract given that nearly all clubs in the Football League are finding it harder and harder to get sponsorship. I've no idea what the running costs of your new stadium would be but I just wonder, in your current circumstances, whether if it goes ahead it will actually be "the answer" that many people hope for.
I understand the long term planning approach but I wonder whether there is a bit of "seduction" involved in the importance of this all singing/dancing stadium. Most lower league clubs, including those reasonably successful, are reporting falling attendances or lack of growth of attendance and many will say it is getting harder and harder to fill those corporate boxes. Officially the economy is on the up of course but I really don't think there is much evidence of that on the ground.
I think the stadium deal is brilliant as conceived but I just wonder whether time has moved on a bit? I have no knowledge of the Bristol circumstances but it seems a very big stadium to me with, presumably, proportionate running costs.
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