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Post by Foran for England on Nov 3, 2017 22:41:43 GMT
What's happened to Bola? Has he p*ssed in DC's coffee cup? Well if you saw how he played tuesday you would fully understand why he didnt play tonight. Maybe he's not eligible as part of his loan agreement? Edit: he played in the league cup so hush my mouth.
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Nov 3, 2017 22:43:11 GMT
Crowd to-night 4228.Billy Bob,please get well soon.
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Post by PessimistGas on Nov 3, 2017 22:48:59 GMT
I know we mess around with each other, but being serious, last summer DC had a chance to go to Leeds, and if he had put feelers out could have probably got himself a job at a bigger club than Rovers, you would have thought that as part of the package that enticed him to stay he would have wanted guarantees about transfer and wage budgets? Having said all of that, we don't do basics properly when defending set pieces, that's training ground stuff. Each supporter has to decide what they think the problem is i suppose. I think after 2 promotions we needed very serious investment in the team to just maintain a good league position as lots of players have hit a wall in terms of the level of performance their capable of. I believe the manager was bitterly disappointed with the finance available to him this season. He will get sacked somewhere along the line and a new man on the managerial merry go-around like john sheridan or lee clarke will be brought in on a strangely even smaller budget and before you know it were back in league 2. We have all seen it before havnt we going right back to the don megson era but then it was waiting to drop back into div 3. Once you bring in help for your manager he might just as well go anyway and let the "help" run the whole thing imo. You cannot defend like we have and expect to be immune from criticism, DC does need to sort the basics because it's a shambles. That said, I agree that he is bitterly disappointed about his budget and the club's infrastructure. It's not even a case of reading between the lines because he's been quite candid about it. I would be surprised if he's still here at the start of next season actually. I think the UWE debacle was the beginning of the end. If there is still no progress on the Colony /Mem by then I'm sure there will still be no shortage of people making excuses for the AQ's.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2017 22:55:50 GMT
I know we mess around with each other, but being serious, last summer DC had a chance to go to Leeds, and if he had put feelers out could have probably got himself a job at a bigger club than Rovers, you would have thought that as part of the package that enticed him to stay he would have wanted guarantees about transfer and wage budgets? Having said all of that, we don't do basics properly when defending set pieces, that's training ground stuff. Each supporter has to decide what they think the problem is i suppose. I think after 2 promotions we needed very serious investment in the team to just maintain a good league position as lots of players have hit a wall in terms of the level of performance their capable of. I believe the manager was bitterly disappointed with the finance available to him this season. He will get sacked somewhere along the line and a new man on the managerial merry go-around like john sheridan or lee clarke will be brought in on a strangely even smaller budget and before you know it were back in league 2. We have all seen it before havnt we going right back to the don megson era but then it was waiting to drop back into div 3. Once you bring in help for your manager he might just as well go anyway and let the "help" run the whole thing imo. By 'help' all I mean is an experienced defensive coach. I think the days of one man coaching all aspects of the team at this level are behind us, so it wouldn't undermine the manager in any way. We already have an attacking coach and a goalkeeper coach don't we? As someone has suggested above, the farce of UWE and the training ground may well mean that he's decided that these owners ambitions for the club don't match his own, and I wouldn't blame him one tiny bit. We'll know for sure by the end of Jan, unless serious reinforcements are brought in then Wael may as well admit that it's all been smoke and mirrors.
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Post by Westcountry Gas on Nov 3, 2017 23:28:26 GMT
This season is starting to feel very much like the 2010/2011, worrying times.
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Post by JeffNZ on Nov 3, 2017 23:51:12 GMT
I'll write the manager's post match interview for him, that'll save him a few mins; Not good enough, not good enough from me, not good enough from the players, we know that, we are all hurting. We are sorry to the traveling fans. Place on loop, repeat after each away hammering. Apart from an apology to the traveling fans pretty much spot on.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2017 23:59:11 GMT
We are at the end of the day four points off the play-offs and 6 points above a relegation place. So its not all doom and gloom despite obvious concerns.
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Post by Peter Parker on Nov 4, 2017 4:33:39 GMT
We are at the end of the day four points off the play-offs and 6 points above a relegation place. So its not all doom and gloom despite obvious concerns. Almost like we are a midtable team that wins some games and loses some. I would agree with the sentiments above, that we need to improve our defending, but i am not particularly concerned about us being in any trouble this season right now DC will leave eventually one way or the other. Not sure if people are expecting/hoping him to be herd for 10/15 years or something. The key is always how we replace him
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Nov 4, 2017 5:20:22 GMT
So, tough words from dc.
Not good enough. There will be changes, mark my words. Very disappointing. Worked on defending set pieces, long throws all week, gone to pot on the pitch. We knew what they were about, allowed ourselves to be bullied.
Hmmmm. We'll see. As he changes every match, the changes screaming out for him to make, he doesn't.
We need leadership and organisation on the pitch and (generally) this season, especially when we're getting tonked, I haven't seen it.
Mr dc..... You need to look seriously at your captain. Your skipper. The one you choose to stand up when things are going wrong and make a difference. We don't have to think too hard back to remember some stalwart skippers of bygone times (Jonah, my personal fav).
I thought he kept Mk dons striker quiet last week for a m o m performance. That said, Locks form is at best inconsistent, and everything dc is referring to in his post match interview revolves around role expected of captain.
If there is no other choice, who's fault is that?
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Post by gasheadpirate on Nov 4, 2017 8:24:39 GMT
How is he going to make changes? Thought there was no budget to make changes? Even if there is money available, who would want to come to a club who are so inconsistent and by then could be fighting a relegation battle? We are a shambles when it comes to defending. Both teams had seven shots on target last night but we lost 4-2. Stats on goals against attempts on target we have conceded seem to be poor week after week.
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Post by Igitur on Nov 4, 2017 9:03:00 GMT
DC's post-match interviews after a loss are the same:poor this, poor that, I take responsibility, changes will be made, final third, defensive errors, blah blah blah. DC talks a good game, I think we are forgetting though what he has done in the two promotions and I am still behind him (ooh er missus), but this is where DC has to kick on himself and sort things out - can he? He is limited by the players in his squad, most of us watch them week in week out, and our players, I feel, match quite a few teams in the league.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 4, 2017 10:25:45 GMT
DC's post-match interviews after a loss are the same:poor this, poor that, I take responsibility, changes will be made, final third, defensive errors, blah blah blah. DC talks a good game, I think we are forgetting though what he has done in the two promotions and I am still behind him (ooh er missus), but this is where DC has to kick on himself and sort things out - can he? He is limited by the players in his squad, most of us watch them week in week out, and our players, I feel, match quite a few teams in the league. One thing that may be the cause of some of his issues is, Do the players want to play for him and are they behind his tactics.......
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2017 10:32:31 GMT
With apologies, but I am convinced there are some on here who actively look forward to us losing, so they can regurgitate the same moaning from the last defeat.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2017 10:44:32 GMT
DC's post-match interviews after a loss are the same:poor this, poor that, I take responsibility, changes will be made, final third, defensive errors, blah blah blah. DC talks a good game, I think we are forgetting though what he has done in the two promotions and I am still behind him (ooh er missus), but this is where DC has to kick on himself and sort things out - can he? He is limited by the players in his squad, most of us watch them week in week out, and our players, I feel, match quite a few teams in the league. One thing that may be the cause of some of his issues is, Do the players want to play for him and are they behind his tactics....... Except the team are right now exactly where any fair minded person would expect us to be in the league. Unless you just think promotions are now just routine now at rovers?
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 4, 2017 11:27:41 GMT
Mmm... How do we make "big changes" when we have a very limited squad to choose from? We can't play 4-4-2 because with Bodin injured we don't have ANY wingers (B.Moore does not count). My two penneth. Play 5-3-2 (3-5-2 when we're on the front foot) with wingbacks. With 2 big centre backs we won't get "bullied" by balls into the box. Let's just STOP conceding from crosses and take it from there. Let's be bloody difficult to beat and show some character. Bola and Leadbitter are fit, and good enough to play wing-back. Drop O.Clarke and "Hollywood" Lines can come on after an hour when we've won the midfield battle. Sincs as Captain (obviously). Piece of p*ss. Sorted all that out. Jobs a good 'un. Slocombe Leadbitter Menayese Lockyer Broadbent Bola Partington Sinclair (Capt) Sercombe Harrison Gaffney Subs: Smith, Sweeney, Brown, Lines, Broom, Telford, Nichols
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 4, 2017 12:04:24 GMT
Oops forgot - Locks suspended next week (phew). Partington to centre-back and Lines in mid-field. Lines is not allowed to play a ball over 20 yards. O.Clarke promoted to the bench. Comes on for Lines if he breaks the 20 yard pass rule that I just invented.
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Post by Igitur on Nov 4, 2017 13:33:05 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2017 14:21:03 GMT
The 3rd one is truly shocking. Don't care what anybody says, I don't think for one second that anybody gets any pleasure from these results, we would all rather have something positive to talk about.
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Post by Igitur on Nov 4, 2017 14:44:15 GMT
The 3rd one is truly shocking. Don't care what anybody says, I don't think for one second that anybody gets any pleasure from these results, we would all rather have something positive to talk about. Sadly in the days of Buckle and McGhee losses were greeted happily by some as it meant sackings would come earlier. Yep, surely no Gashead would now take any pleasure from a Rovers loss, but it's the manner of some defeats that causes moans and groans. Lots of finger pointing on the first goal, attackers in front/goal side of defenders, players out of position... smacks of disorganisation, confusion, players not getting on...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2017 15:12:40 GMT
The 3rd one is truly shocking. Don't care what anybody says, I don't think for one second that anybody gets any pleasure from these results, we would all rather have something positive to talk about. Sadly in the days of Buckle and McGhee losses were greeted happily by some as it meant sackings would come earlier. Yep, surely no Gashead would now take any pleasure from a Rovers loss, but it's the manner of some defeats that causes moans and groans. Lots of finger pointing on the first goal, attackers in front/goal side of defenders, players out of position... smacks of disorganisation, confusion, players not getting on... That's a thing isn't it, the players know better than anybody who is putting in a shift and who isn't. We saw it last week when Nichols was literally stood still watching, first Gaffney sprinted past him to charge down a clearance by the opposition left back, then 10 mins later, again Nichols stood watching whilst Swampy ran 20 yards to put in a challenge 5 yards from where he was stood. Add to that, Nichols makes the most half hearted attempts at closing down the opposition keeper I think I've ever seen, it really is limp. Fast forward 6 days and he's part of the starting 11 again. That stuff is going to cause problems in the dressing room.
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