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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2017 1:05:34 GMT
I feel badly let down by the owner of the club hani. Lots of broken promises on budgets,UWE and the training ground up and running by 2018-2019 all a bloody mirage! Now we have a fan base expecting a top league one team when its more likely to have a badly struggling one. Whats the point of taking over a struggling football club and not throwing serious money at it? I wish the owners would just quietly fade away back to making millions in banking. Feel sorry for darrell clarke as hes becoming just another struggling manager waiting for the sack as the support start to turn on him as all "fans" do in the modern era. Higgs would have delivered a ground with the sainsbury deal at any time from the start of the new millennium until very recent changes in shoppers habits so at least in part was unlucky. The present owners are right up there in a mini league with the oystens,venkys and the leyton orient lunatic for me. I would have much preferred not having my hopes raised that we were gunning for bristol city with a state of the art stadium and a category 2 academy,yes remember that? a cat 2 academy!! Rubbish and cheap talk. Name all the chairmen of bristol rovers that have done more for the football club than harry dolman or steve lansdown have at city. 1] ? 2]? 3] ? 4]?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2017 4:26:30 GMT
I feel badly let down by the owner of the club hani. Lots of broken promises on budgets,UWE and the training ground up and running by 2018-2019 all a bloody mirage! Now we have a fan base expecting a top league one team when its more likely to have a badly struggling one. Whats the point of taking over a struggling football club and not throwing serious money at it? I wish the owners would just quietly fade away back to making millions in banking. Feel sorry for darrell clarke as hes becoming just another struggling manager waiting for the sack as the support start to turn on him as all "fans" do in the modern era. Higgs would have delivered a ground with the sainsbury deal at any time from the start of the new millennium until very recent changes in shoppers habits so at least in part was unlucky. The present owners are right up there in a mini league with the oystens,venkys and the leyton orient lunatic for me. I would have much preferred not having my hopes raised that we were gunning for bristol city with a state of the art stadium and a category 2 academy,yes remember that? a cat 2 academy!! Rubbish and cheap talk. Name all the chairmen of bristol rovers that have done more for the football club than harry dolman or steve lansdown have at city. 1] ? 2]? 3] ? 4]? Tosh. Utter tosh
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Post by harrybuckle on Oct 18, 2017 6:57:16 GMT
1. George Humphreys Rovers 6o year old Chairman who paid to appoint our first full time manager Ben Hall in 1920.Humphreys often paid the players wages from his own pocket. Read more in the excellent Bristol Rovers Definitive History book.
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Post by jungleboogie on Oct 18, 2017 7:17:35 GMT
Dear OP, please log off, delete your account, and never return.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Oct 18, 2017 7:28:13 GMT
I feel badly let down by the owner of the club hani. Lots of broken promises on budgets,UWE and the training ground up and running by 2018-2019 all a bloody mirage! Now we have a fan base expecting a top league one team when its more likely to have a badly struggling one. Whats the point of taking over a struggling football club and not throwing serious money at it? I wish the owners would just quietly fade away back to making millions in banking. Feel sorry for darrell clarke as hes becoming just another struggling manager waiting for the sack as the support start to turn on him as all "fans" do in the modern era. Higgs would have delivered a ground with the sainsbury deal at any time from the start of the new millennium until very recent changes in shoppers habits so at least in part was unlucky. The present owners are right up there in a mini league with the oystens,venkys and the leyton orient lunatic for me. I would have much preferred not having my hopes raised that we were gunning for bristol city with a state of the art stadium and a category 2 academy,yes remember that? a cat 2 academy!! Rubbish and cheap talk. Name all the chairmen of bristol rovers that have done more for the football club than harry dolman or steve lansdown have at city. 1] ? 2]? 3] ? 4]? What a complete load of crap
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Oct 18, 2017 7:58:56 GMT
I feel badly let down by the owner of the club hani. Lots of broken promises on budgets,UWE and the training ground up and running by 2018-2019 all a bloody mirage! Now we have a fan base expecting a top league one team when its more likely to have a badly struggling one. Whats the point of taking over a struggling football club and not throwing serious money at it? I wish the owners would just quietly fade away back to making millions in banking. Feel sorry for darrell clarke as hes becoming just another struggling manager waiting for the sack as the support start to turn on him as all "fans" do in the modern era. Higgs would have delivered a ground with the sainsbury deal at any time from the start of the new millennium until very recent changes in shoppers habits so at least in part was unlucky. The present owners are right up there in a mini league with the oystens,venkys and the leyton orient lunatic for me. I would have much preferred not having my hopes raised that we were gunning for bristol city with a state of the art stadium and a category 2 academy,yes remember that? a cat 2 academy!! Rubbish and cheap talk. Name all the chairmen of bristol rovers that have done more for the football club than harry dolman or steve lansdown have at city. 1] ? 2]? 3] ? 4]? You would rather be near bankruptcy and playing at best in League 1 with Higgs in charge. I would seriously suggest finding other things to do on a Saturday, as Rovers is clearly not all that good for your health and well-being.
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Post by eppinggas on Oct 18, 2017 8:26:02 GMT
Blueiris - bit of perspective needed. You were one of the "happy clappy brigade" (as indeed I was) when the Al-Qadis took over in Feb 2016. Post UWE collapse / charge on the Mem / Colony stalling - a lot of people have had a chance to re-evaluate our owners and hypothesise what the strategy might be post-UWE. I am one of them. No need to get bitter and twisted about things. I think you may possibly have been way too optimistic. And now you are possibly way too pessimistic. (Although I am leaning to the latter).
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Post by stroudblue on Oct 18, 2017 9:12:35 GMT
Higgs and Dunford hired experienced managers who let them down. Dunford secured a permanent home for Rovers, while Higgs kept faith in DC and supplied funds to build a team that enabled Rovers to get back in the league.
Current owner is building slowly, which is a sensible plan.
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 18, 2017 9:41:16 GMT
I feel badly let down by the owner of the club hani. Lots of broken promises on budgets,UWE and the training ground up and running by 2018-2019 all a bloody mirage! Now we have a fan base expecting a top league one team when its more likely to have a badly struggling one. Whats the point of taking over a struggling football club and not throwing serious money at it? I wish the owners would just quietly fade away back to making millions in banking. Feel sorry for darrell clarke as hes becoming just another struggling manager waiting for the sack as the support start to turn on him as all "fans" do in the modern era. Higgs would have delivered a ground with the sainsbury deal at any time from the start of the new millennium until very recent changes in shoppers habits so at least in part was unlucky. The present owners are right up there in a mini league with the oystens,venkys and the leyton orient lunatic for me. I would have much preferred not having my hopes raised that we were gunning for bristol city with a state of the art stadium and a category 2 academy,yes remember that? a cat 2 academy!! Rubbish and cheap talk. Name all the chairmen of bristol rovers that have done more for the football club than harry dolman or steve lansdown have at city. 1] ? 2]? 3] ? 4]? Pure, over the top rubbish. Total over reaction to a bad defeat. Last week on the Mem redevelopment thread you were over reacting until the end when you seemed to calm down. Now to make the comparisons you do is just barmy. Get a sense of perspective and realise that evolution means small steps. I get it that you may not like it but it is what it is, one step at a time. Poor defeat I agree but you do need to take some perspective pills. UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2017 9:41:43 GMT
Complete twaddle, we can dismantle it point by point if you like, but let's start with this, in round terms, Sainsbury's were paying £28m, UWE was costing £40m (and rising) to build, where was the other £12m coming from?
Some of us warned that the best strategy was to be careful and get locals on-board, listen to them, incorporate their views into plans, just like the new owners are doing, of course it fell on deaf ears. How is that 'unlucky'?
Talk about rewriting history.
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Post by trunky on Oct 18, 2017 11:03:38 GMT
Over the top it may be but even his most ardent supporter must admit disappointment with his investment in the playing squad, if you take out the £300K we got for taylor my guess is we have spent very little on transfer fees in fact I think our recruitment this summer has been very similar to many of the previous seasons.I am not a fan that demands that a club chairman should invest shed loads of his money but as we have now got the richest chairman in the clubs history I think we could have expected a little bit more.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2017 11:31:31 GMT
once the uwe failed im afraid for me this is only going one way, the family will eventually move on, re-developed mem ? cant see it, we will for the forseeable be a div 1 team winning and losing a few, i fully expect DC to move on too, [ of his own accord], hes ambitious and its not gonna happen here imo
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2017 11:39:25 GMT
once the uwe failed im afraid for me this is only going one way, the family will eventually move on, re-developed mem ? cant see it, we will for the forseeable be a div 1 team winning and losing a few, i fully expect DC to move on too, [ of his own accord], hes ambitious and its not gonna happen here imo If he's really not being given the funds he needs, there's only so many times he's going to stand in front of cameras giving interviews of the type he did last night. What then, let Hamer find a replacement?
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Post by stevek192 on Oct 18, 2017 11:42:37 GMT
I agree that DC is ambitious but until he proves himself beyond this level and in his ability to sign quality players then he is just another League 1 Manager. I hope he can prove with us that he is a top League 1 Manager but his summer dealings make me doubt this until proven otherwise. I am not convinced that he has the knowledge of the higher Leagues to succeed at that level but only time will tell.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2017 11:46:09 GMT
once the uwe failed im afraid for me this is only going one way, the family will eventually move on, re-developed mem ? cant see it, we will for the forseeable be a div 1 team winning and losing a few, i fully expect DC to move on too, [ of his own accord], hes ambitious and its not gonna happen here imo If he's really not being given the funds he needs, there's only so many times he's going to stand in front of cameras giving interviews of the type he did last night. What then, let Hamer find a replacement? if hes the chairman then i suppose thats his job, mind im struggling to think of a good summer /winter new recruit dc has brought in did we really go a year undefeated away ?
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Post by Warmley Gas (formerly HSgas) on Oct 18, 2017 12:21:50 GMT
It is posts like this that really make us gas heads look like everybody else. We have a go at the darkside for demanding Johnson out last season and now look at us...supporters demand our owners or for DC to leave. As Stroudblue explained, it will take small steps. It will be a long process to change a club around starting from the bottom like we are (infrastructure, training facilities). No point just chucking money at a club for it all to be wasted and toxic like it used to be. Just strap in and enjoy the rover rollercoaster ride like we are used to and pipe down.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2017 12:33:41 GMT
It is posts like this that really make us gas heads look like everybody else. We have a go at the darkside for demanding Johnson out last season and now look at us...supporters demand our owners or for DC to leave. As Stroudblue explained, it will take small steps. It will be a long process to change a club around starting from the bottom like we are (infrastructure, training facilities). No point just chucking money at a club for it all to be wasted and toxic like it used to be. Just strap in and enjoy the rover rollercoaster ride like we are used to and pipe down.No. When UWE doesn't happen and there's clear water between our version of events and what UWE are saying, the training ground looks like a jungle and there's a charge on the stadium which can't be explained in any way that makes sense, we are entitled to ask questions.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Oct 18, 2017 12:34:46 GMT
It is posts like this that really make us gas heads look like everybody else. We have a go at the darkside for demanding Johnson out last season and now look at us...supporters demand our owners or for DC to leave. As Stroudblue explained, it will take small steps. It will be a long process to change a club around starting from the bottom like we are (infrastructure, training facilities). No point just chucking money at a club for it all to be wasted and toxic like it used to be. Just strap in and enjoy the rover rollercoaster ride like we are used to and pipe down.No. When UWE doesn't happen and there's clear water between our version of events and what UWE are saying, the training ground looks like a jungle and there's a charge on the stadium which can't be explained in any way that makes sense, we are entitled to ask questions. and have you asked the owner such questions ?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2017 12:43:15 GMT
No. When UWE doesn't happen and there's clear water between our version of events and what UWE are saying, the training ground looks like a jungle and there's a charge on the stadium which can't be explained in any way that makes sense, we are entitled to ask questions. and have you asked the owner such questions ? They put out statements making reference to questions being asked on the internet. But, to be more specific, Wael was asked directly about the charge, his reply sounded like a politician trying desperately to wriggle out of a corner, it was horrible to witness. Anyway, my reply was a direct response to an instruction to 'pipe down' on this forum. Hope that's OK with you and doesn't get you all anxious and looking under the sofa again for today's HA
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2017 12:58:05 GMT
and have you asked the owner such questions ? They put out statements making reference to questions being asked on the internet. But, to be more specific, Wael was asked directly about the charge, his reply sounded like a politician trying desperately to wriggle out of a corner, it was horrible to witness. Anyway, my reply was a direct response to an instruction to 'pipe down' on this forum. Hope that's OK with you and doesn't get you all anxious and looking under the sofa again for today's HA To be honest, I think it's a healthy dose of reality. The club is losing money hand over fist, what do you expect them to do? The club will run out of money sometime in early 2019. What then?
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