bloogas
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Post by bloogas on Oct 18, 2017 7:43:20 GMT
Wael was sat a few yards from me. He saw the whole horror story first hand. He can have no illusions now about what needs doing & that success costs.
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eppinggas
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Post by eppinggas on Oct 18, 2017 8:06:29 GMT
I am sure DC retains the backing of at least 95% of our support. But, he does make mistakes. His loyalty (or is that stubbornness) defies logic. Lockyer is not a Captain - and will probably be a better player without that responsibility. He is not vocal, does not organise and is a liability at the moment. Although Northampton were p*ss poor - it also seems tough on a promising young centre-back pairing to not be given another run out when Locks/Sweeney is as porous as Locks/Hartley was last year. Nicholls runs around a lot to little effect (which is difficult with that goal-shy monkey on your back). I'm not having that "we didn't buy him as a goal scorer" nonsense. I was chatting to a Peterborough fan on the eve of the opening fixture and previous season he was getting slated by Posh fans for his lack of goals and was not a popular figure. He was surprised at the alleged fee.
I think we would all like to see Telford given a few games. But it's not our decision.
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Swedish Gas
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Post by Swedish Gas on Oct 18, 2017 8:29:56 GMT
Well we can at least celebrate a magnificent draw in the second half. 😂 We should be awarded half a point for this! |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 18, 2017 8:47:06 GMT
Well we can at least celebrate a magnificent draw in the second half. 😂 We should be awarded half a point for this! No we shouldn't. Shrews controlled the second half and took the foot off the gas (pardon the pun). |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 18, 2017 8:52:55 GMT
Now am back. The best bit about tonight was the legendary cheese. Nice one. Boll ocks to you, Clarke. Utter garbage. If I said Bollox to you, you'd take it personally wouldn't you; think its a bit much saying that to DC. Are you now saying its time to turn on the manager? If you do, you don't have my vote. First of all you're putting words in my mouth. Second of all, I take it personally that most (not all) of the staff failed to do their job last night which resulted in some pretty vile shouts and hails from our end, and dc has to take responsibility for his teams tactics, formation and personnel....which quite frankly was a load of billhooks. So yes, in context its a fair comment to direct them at dc as per his request in post mortem interview. Third of all, if you were there last night and disagree, absolutely fair play to you, but you don't have my vote either. |
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Post by stroudblue on Oct 18, 2017 9:03:39 GMT
I feel everyone has known the defence has been a problem for a good while, going back to last season. Against opposition in the top half of the table Roves will be mauled.
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simonj
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Post by simonj on Oct 18, 2017 9:25:39 GMT
If I said Bollox to you, you'd take it personally wouldn't you; think its a bit much saying that to DC. Are you now saying its time to turn on the manager? If you do, you don't have my vote. First of all you're putting words in my mouth. Second of all, I take it personally that most (not all) of the staff failed to do their job last night which resulted in some pretty vile shouts and hails from our end, and dc has to take responsibility for his teams tactics, formation and personnel....which quite frankly was a load of billhooks. So yes, in context its a fair comment to direct them at dc as per his request in post mortem interview. Third of all, if you were there last night and disagree, absolutely fair play to you, but you don't have my vote either. Luckily I wasn't there.
I heard DC's comments and he agrees he is to blame for the tactics on that performance, but the players didn't do their jobs properly, that is also clear looking at the highlights. When somebody says bollox to DC, it reads like you are saying it to him as opposed tactics at this match, my mistake.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 18, 2017 10:08:34 GMT
Ed First of all you're putting words in my mouth. Second of all, I take it personally that most (not all) of the staff failed to do their job last night which resulted in some pretty vile shouts and hails from our end, and dc has to take responsibility for his teams tactics, formation and personnel....which quite frankly was a load of billhooks. So yes, in context its a fair comment to direct them at dc as per his request in post mortem interview. Third of all, if you were there last night and disagree, absolutely fair play to you, but you don't have my vote either. Luckily I wasn't there.
I heard DC's comments and he agrees he is to blame for the tactics on that performance, but the players didn't do their jobs properly, that is also clear looking at the highlights. When somebody says bollox to DC, it reads like you are saying it to him as opposed tactics at this match, my mistake.
You can read my previous posts. I say what I see. Am usually protective over dc and management team, also scapegoat of some players. Everyone has their limit, their time, last night's capitulation was inexcusable. Dc said some weeks back some of his team are struggling with their mental ability and to cope with league one football. Yet he continues to pick them. There does come a time where if you continue to make mistakes, the same mistakes, over and over again.....well there's a name for that, isn't there? |
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Post by kegandeg on Oct 18, 2017 14:16:05 GMT
Who is the defensive coach if we have one surely his job is on the line. The 4 goals were yet again so soft, slocombe getting beaten on his near post yet again is also a major concern.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2017 14:31:16 GMT
Who is the defensive coach if we have one surely his job is on the line. The 4 goals were yet again so soft, slocombe getting beaten on his near post yet again is also a major concern. Just to put another view on thingsale last season we conceded 3 or more goals on 12 occasion this season it's 6 in 14 games |
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Post by Igitur on Oct 18, 2017 14:45:09 GMT
Who is the defensive coach if we have one surely his job is on the line. The 4 goals were yet again so soft, slocombe getting beaten on his near post yet again is also a major concern. Just to put another view on thingsale last season we conceded 3 or more goals on 12 occasion this season it's 6 in 14 games ...ah, but we are 4 points away from a playoff spot and 6 from a relegation place. |
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bloogas
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Post by bloogas on Oct 18, 2017 15:26:33 GMT
o2 - "Yet he continues to pick them". He's not got a lot of choice surely? I basically agree with you, but for whatever reasons, we are where we are. Stevek192 persistently blames DC's summer recruitment (or lack of) - again I have to agree but why was it so poor? Was it him? Or does the blame lie elsewhere? If anyone knows the absolute facts,please share with the rest of us. Otherwise it's all speculation.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2017 16:10:22 GMT
Just to put another view on thingsale last season we conceded 3 or more goals on 12 occasion this season it's 6 in 14 games ...ah, but we are 4 points away from a playoff spot and 6 from a relegation place. Whats that got to do with the price of bread |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2017 17:36:34 GMT
A comment from a City fan I read earlier made me laugh (better than crying):
"It was the shrewing of the tame".
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Oct 18, 2017 17:43:58 GMT
 Better than Crying. two.Coming in thick and fast now. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 18, 2017 19:47:24 GMT
o2 - "Yet he continues to pick them". He's not got a lot of choice surely? I basically agree with you, but for whatever reasons, we are where we are. Stevek192 persistently blames DC's summer recruitment (or lack of) - again I have to agree but why was it so poor? Was it him? Or does the blame lie elsewhere? If anyone knows the absolute facts,please share with the rest of us. Otherwise it's all speculation. You have in one post answered exactly mine and Steve (amongst others) point. We are now in a position where we have little option to play anyone else, but that in itself is a management failing as they've had six months to prepare for this period of the season. It's dc fault I'm afraid, as he has gone on record content with budgets, etc. I think the priority white elephant in the room is we all know Locks form is at best inconsistent and choice of captaincy is questionable. Sort this out first, others may fall into place, but last night I looked to body language leadership and saw someone just as bemused at the situation as I was! Would some of our great captains in the past have been so nonchalant? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2017 22:47:20 GMT
o2 - "Yet he continues to pick them". He's not got a lot of choice surely? I basically agree with you, but for whatever reasons, we are where we are. Stevek192 persistently blames DC's summer recruitment (or lack of) - again I have to agree but why was it so poor? Was it him? Or does the blame lie elsewhere? If anyone knows the absolute facts,please share with the rest of us. Otherwise it's all speculation. You have in one post answered exactly mine and Steve (amongst others) point. We are now in a position where we have little option to play anyone else, but that in itself is a management failing as they've had six months to prepare for this period of the season. It's dc fault I'm afraid, as he has gone on record content with budgets, etc. I think the priority white elephant in the room is we all know Locks form is at best inconsistent and choice of captaincy is questionable. Sort this out first, others may fall into place, but last night I looked to body language leadership and saw someone just as bemused at the situation as I was! Would some of our great captains in the past have been so nonchalant? He cant publicly say hes unhappy with the budget,but hes made many cryptic comments that show just that. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 19, 2017 7:06:48 GMT
Wouldn't matter, he'd still start Lockyer!
And probably, Nichols.
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Igitur
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Post by Igitur on Oct 19, 2017 8:47:04 GMT
Well the BP rates DC (as do I) and Locks ('fraid not for me for some time):
There was double success for Bristol Rovers at the 2017 Bristol Post Sport Awards, with both Darrell Clarke and Tom Lockyer coming away with some of the evening’s top prizes.
Rovers boss Clarke was victorious in the professional coach of the year award, beating Bristol City head coach Lee Johnson and former Bristol Rugby coach and now chief operating officer Mark Tainton.
Clarke won the award based on Rovers’ successful first season back in League One, where they finished in 10th place, remaining in contention for the play-offs until the final few matches of the season, and picked up their highest points total in the third tier for 17 years.
Upon accepting the award Clarke stated his aim this season was to beat the 66 points Rovers accumulated during the 20116/17 season and reiterated his desire to improve the clubs standing year on year.
There was also success for Rovers captain Tom Lockyer. The Welshman beat Bristol City’s Bobby Reid and his own teammate Billy Bodin to claim the male sports personality of the year.
Lockyer was ever present during Rovers’ successful return to League One last season and was also made captain of the side at the age of just 22. His consistent form over the past few seasons has also seen him gain recognition with his national side.
The Rovers captain has been part of Wales’ last two squads for their World Cup qualifiers, and Lockyer now stands a good chance of winning his first senior international cap in the upcoming friendlies.
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