kegandeg
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Post by kegandeg on Oct 14, 2017 16:33:41 GMT
Had a guts full of him he's useless he's had so many chances he came on today for the first time in ages and as usual he basically did f**k all.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2017 16:52:17 GMT
One of DCs poorest signings ? a 2 year contract too. Definitely need a left winger,I don't like it when Gaffney drifts out to the wing.
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Post by littlestokegas on Oct 14, 2017 19:28:56 GMT
I hate being negative, today was a great advert for league 1 then Clark came off and the the wheels came off with him. Moore is next to useless.
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Post by gasheadpirate on Oct 14, 2017 19:31:47 GMT
I hate being negative, today was a great advert for league 1 then Clark came off and the the wheels came off with him. Moore is next to useless. He's not that good. 😁
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2017 20:52:51 GMT
I hate being negative, today was a great advert for league 1 then Clark came off and the the wheels came off with him. Moore is next to useless. Clarke came off because he had been booked for dissent and continued to do it the referee went to his pocket when he committed a found thought better of it but you could see he was close to a red so dc correctly took him off
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2017 20:56:33 GMT
Sinclair for Clarke was 100% the correct and obvious sub to make. Moore for Gaffney less so.
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Post by stevek192 on Oct 14, 2017 21:11:33 GMT
Both Moore and Sinclair made the team far worse but both were the right decisions as we pay for players being unable to keep within the rules and receive unnecessary Yellow cards. Ollie Clarkes yellow cards have been caused by him being a pale imitation of last season and being a yard off the pace most games. We are paying for DCs summer dealings when he failed to get a decent defensive midfielder and left us with no pacy wingers whatsoever. Sinclair, Ollie Clarke, Moore and Nicholls are bench players at the best on present form and we are three or four quality players short of a team capable of fighting at the right end of the table. January will be make or break and DC needs to prove that he is capable of signing the quality needed and then actually selecting them.
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Post by Warmley Gas (formerly HSgas) on Oct 14, 2017 21:58:52 GMT
Make or break for what exactly?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2017 22:28:46 GMT
Both Moore and Sinclair made the team far worse but both were the right decisions as we pay for players being unable to keep within the rules and receive unnecessary Yellow cards. Ollie Clarkes yellow cards have been caused by him being a pale imitation of last season and being a yard off the pace most games. We are paying for DCs summer dealings when he failed to get a decent defensive midfielder and left us with no pacy wingers whatsoever. Sinclair, Ollie Clarke, Moore and Nicholls are bench players at the best on present form and we are three or four quality players short of a team capable of fighting at the right end of the table. January will be make or break and DC needs to prove that he is capable of signing the quality needed and then actually selecting them. Sinclair came on for ollie clarke after a long lay off,he did nothing great when he came on but as ollie clarke struggled today how did you come to the conclusion he made the team far worse?
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Post by DudeLebowski on Oct 15, 2017 0:06:15 GMT
Going after one of our own players with its very own thread??
Stay classy Gasheads.
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kwoodgas
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Post by kwoodgas on Oct 15, 2017 0:29:46 GMT
I hate scapegoating our own players, but harsh as it may sound I think Moore deserves the stick he gets because IMO he doesn't look remotely interested. He had two excellent games around this time last year; Walsall at home and Northampton away (albeit as a sub) and after those two I thought he'd be an integral part of the team.
His performances since then however have meant he's vying with Riodran, Kenneth, Wright and Blizzard to be the worst player I've seen in the quarters and considering some of the s**t Ellis has got in the past I think our supporters have been incredibly kind to him!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 1:15:31 GMT
Looking on his wiki page is interesting. The very day he signed for port vale he himself found his brother dead after he hung himself,his brother had sent him a text saying "i want to be alone and its over" after which him and his mother rushed over to his brothers house but sadly found him dead. Hes played about 350 league games so there must be some talent there as few players reach that many games in reality. My take on him at rovers is that hes quick and technically good but seems to play without passion or drive. He plays as though he would rather be somewhere else it seems to me. Yesterday he lost the ball well up the field which after a bit of a mess elsewhere ended with oxford scoring. He hasnt done anything much at rovers and hes running out of time to earn a new contract that much is true.
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Post by DudeLebowski on Oct 15, 2017 1:29:43 GMT
I hate scapegoating our own players, but harsh as it may sound I think Moore deserves the stick he gets because IMO he doesn't look remotely interested. He had two excellent games around this time last year; Walsall at home and Northampton away (albeit as a sub) and after those two I thought he'd be an integral part of the team. His performances since then however have meant he's vying with Riodran, Kenneth, Wright and Blizzard to be the worst player I've seen in the quarters and considering some of the s*** Ellis has got in the past I think our supporters have been incredibly kind to him! You start off hating the scapegoating of players & finish off by (I think) suggesting Moore deserves to be abused. Interesting take.
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kwoodgas
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Post by kwoodgas on Oct 15, 2017 7:11:25 GMT
I hate scapegoating our own players, but harsh as it may sound I think Moore deserves the stick he gets because IMO he doesn't look remotely interested. He had two excellent games around this time last year; Walsall at home and Northampton away (albeit as a sub) and after those two I thought he'd be an integral part of the team. His performances since then however have meant he's vying with Riodran, Kenneth, Wright and Blizzard to be the worst player I've seen in the quarters and considering some of the s*** Ellis has got in the past I think our supporters have been incredibly kind to him! You start off hating the scapegoating of players & finish off by (I think) suggesting Moore deserves to be abused. Interesting take. Not really what I'm saying... More that we have a young lad who runs his bollocks off, has scored arguably the most important goal in our history and gets dogsabuse; whereas Moore is an experienced league player who's had 2 decent games in about 50 but doesn't get sarcastically cheered off the pitch. I wasn't saying he should get any abuse it's more I could certainly understand if fans were frustrated with him.
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Post by stevek192 on Oct 15, 2017 10:45:31 GMT
Blueiris, Mainly because even though Clarke had a poor game not helped at all by his booking he still held his position which allowed Lines, Nicholls and Sercombe to do their jobs. Sinclair whilst giving 110% has no discipline in his game which means he runs everywhere but leaves huge gaps which others have to cover. As for Moore he did nothing but I can understand why DC made both changes. He should instil a bit more discipline into our players as our disciplinary record is far from good and so many yellow cards and red ones as well have been totally unnecessary.
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bloogas
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Post by bloogas on Oct 15, 2017 10:57:00 GMT
Both Moore and Sinclair made the team far worse but both were the right decisions as we pay for players being unable to keep within the rules and receive unnecessary Yellow cards. Ollie Clarkes yellow cards have been caused by him being a pale imitation of last season and being a yard off the pace most games. We are paying for DCs summer dealings when he failed to get a decent defensive midfielder and left us with no pacy wingers whatsoever. Sinclair, Ollie Clarke, Moore and Nicholls are bench players at the best on present form and we are three or four quality players short of a team capable of fighting at the right end of the table. January will be make or break and DC needs to prove that he is capable of signing the quality needed and then actually selecting them. And if he doesn't? We sack him? No blame on the board for not making money available?
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Post by stevek192 on Oct 15, 2017 11:08:28 GMT
bloogas, I cannot blame the Board if we do not know whether or not money was available, I can only assume as £300,000 was wasted on Nicholls that he did have money available and he did say he was leaving some for January.Sacking him would be harsh but maybe he needs help in identifying quality players. For me there have been too many signings that have not come off.
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bloogas
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Post by bloogas on Oct 15, 2017 11:32:33 GMT
bloogas, I cannot blame the Board if we do not know whether or not money was available, I can only assume as £300,000 was wasted on Nicholls that he did have money available and he did say he was leaving some for January.Sacking him would be harsh but maybe he needs help in identifying quality players. For me there have been too many signings that have not come off. I have to concede that he does seem to behave in some respects as if we were still a conference side. My only real argument with you is that recruitment isn't that easy. I doubt Bristol is a magnet for players & we'd have to pay over the odds to lure players here. And I'm not precious about him, but what would we get in his place? Buckle,McGee,Ward,all over again? He does seem to be doing what Tann,Megson,Francis, did - build a team.
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Post by stevek192 on Oct 15, 2017 11:36:17 GMT
I agree about who we could get in his place and that is why I would not think of sacking him but I think he does have a problem with signings which I would say overall are probably League 2 standard with the odd League 1.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 11:49:05 GMT
Both Moore and Sinclair made the team far worse but both were the right decisions as we pay for players being unable to keep within the rules and receive unnecessary Yellow cards. Ollie Clarkes yellow cards have been caused by him being a pale imitation of last season and being a yard off the pace most games. We are paying for DCs summer dealings when he failed to get a decent defensive midfielder and left us with no pacy wingers whatsoever. Sinclair, Ollie Clarke, Moore and Nicholls are bench players at the best on present form and we are three or four quality players short of a team capable of fighting at the right end of the table. January will be make or break and DC needs to prove that he is capable of signing the quality needed and then actually selecting them. Sinclair came on for ollie clarke after a long lay off,he did nothing great when he came on but as ollie clarke struggled today how did you come to the conclusion he made the team far worse? I can see where Steve is coming from by replacing clarkelly@celticfc.com with sinclair did upset the midfield balance and forced lines and Sercombe deeper to cover for clarke.s missing. Sinclair may cover a lot of ground and harass the opposition but he does not possess the holding midfield discipline to do what clarke does
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