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Post by DudeLebowski on Sept 23, 2017 22:17:24 GMT
The starting line up baffled some, but I felt the changes at half time completely threw Blackpool and left them with no clue as to what was happening. With half hour to go they played one up top and packed the defence/midfield looking for that point.
We controlled the second half with little worry & Sweeney smashed in the second at the perfect time. They were beat.
Just what was needed after our midweek showing on the road. Two Winnable games coming up, bring on the Pompey!
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Post by Peter Parker on Sept 24, 2017 6:31:54 GMT
Looking forward to SteveK report and what he made of the changes😃
People moan we cant defend, defence gets changed and we moan about that. Interesting that the caller who got halted by 20p for the DC had the wind taken out of his sails after DC explained the changes.
Thought Blackpool played some decent stuff first half, but still mustered only one shot, the goal we helped give them getting caught forward and Parts being a bit flat footed
We needed the goal before HT, but 2nd half was all us. Blackpool offered nothing.
Thought Ellis was good again and glad to see him nab a goal at the end after the earlier attempts.
First time i saw Bola. Looks good. Would like to see what he could do on Left.
Good win. 3 more points and meltdown/crisis defferred by a few days for some
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Post by laughinggas on Sept 24, 2017 7:33:59 GMT
Second half we ended with all left footers at the back.
Would say Sweeney did well but was not comfortable playing that side.
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Post by Igitur on Sept 24, 2017 8:03:02 GMT
The starting line up baffled some, but I felt the changes at half time completely threw Blackpool and left them with no clue as to what was happening. With half hour to go they played one up top and packed the defence/midfield looking for that point. We controlled the second half with little worry & Sweeney smashed in the second at the perfect time. They were beat. Just what was needed after our midweek showing on the road. Two Winnable games coming up, bring on the Pompey! ...this is spot on and always leaves us wondering, the much discussed, why DC's finishing XI is usually much better than the starting one; you could say DC is responding to the opposition's play or the old chestnut "we do not see them on the training ground" could get wheeled out or a player's form/confidence on the day may dip... I bet DC always draws the Get out of Jail Free card when playing Monopoly. 20man's response was, "You won 3-1, Garry" but that did not happen until the last 10 minutes. |
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Post by dido on Sept 24, 2017 8:10:05 GMT
Goals scored in the last 10 minutes don't really count, do they?
(Much like penalties)
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Post by Igitur on Sept 24, 2017 8:22:31 GMT
Goals scored in the last 10 minutes don't really count, do they? (Much like penalties) Very droll, but misses the point, if serious, I shall bite no more. |
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Post by Peter Parker on Sept 24, 2017 8:25:56 GMT
The starting line up baffled some, but I felt the changes at half time completely threw Blackpool and left them with no clue as to what was happening. With half hour to go they played one up top and packed the defence/midfield looking for that point. We controlled the second half with little worry & Sweeney smashed in the second at the perfect time. They were beat. Just what was needed after our midweek showing on the road. Two Winnable games coming up, bring on the Pompey! ...this is spot on and always leaves us wondering, the much discussed, why DC's finishing XI is usually much better than the starting one; you could say DC is responding to the opposition's play or the old chestnut "we do not see them on the training ground" could get wheeled out or a player's form/confidence on the day may dip... I bet DC always draws the Get out of Jail Free card when playing Monopoly. 20man's response was, "You won 3-1, Garry" but that did not happen until the last 10 minutes.  DC explianed it after the game |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 8:29:29 GMT
Goals scored in the last 10 minutes don't really count, do they? (Much like penalties) Very droll, but misses the point, if serious, I shall bite no more. Maybe I'm being dim, but what is the point? |
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Post by Igitur on Sept 24, 2017 9:48:09 GMT
Very droll, but misses the point, if serious, I shall bite no more. Maybe I'm being dim, but what is the point? No, no, Dr F, perhaps my point was not made clearly. Don't get me wrong I'm a mega fan of DC (and Wael) but like many, as we have discussed before, I am perplexed by some team selections and indeed DC’s explanation only really included Parts' inclusion, who is a classy player to me, but he also went on to say that the subs were driven by two players being on yellows, so not tactical switches. Perhaps Sercombe was looking tired in training or being rested, but I would pick him ahead of Moore. The win only came late in the game when many around me (the non-believers?) would have taken a draw (the old cliché); you could analyse why for some time, Blackpool sitting back/parking the bus (two clichés BOGOF) or greater Rovers' fitness/determination, and yes both come from the manager, or the introduction of subs, I like the cut of Telford's jib... I just felt, and it's purely my opinion, that we could have wrapped things earlier with different selections. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 12:16:02 GMT
Ellis range his nuts off but showed no intent at all to actually win the ball. Like the look of Telford and Bola is just too good a player not to make the team every week. Lockyer aside the loans and the new signings are easily our best players Especially near the end when the ball was bobbing about in our box.Ellis brought it down did a quick swivel to wrong foot 2 attackers the cleared it so far it was a throw in to Blackpool midway in their half.and of course you missed the several times when he chased a blackpool player some distance before getting a tackle in to put the ball out of play. But you wouldn't have seen that from the thatchers end |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 12:21:39 GMT
Negatives: Referee. Moore simulation must have been a good call, because to me looked nailed on free kick. UptheGas! I wasn't well-placed to see whether or not there was contact, but I did see that Byron went to the referee at half-time and remonstrated animatedly. Why would he do that, if he didn't feel a sense of gross injustice? One of their subs, number 8 (D'Almeida), was guilty of simulation on three occasions, yet received no yellow card. The chap next to me wondered whether a simulation on the edge of the box might be punished more harshly than one in the middle of the field - he was trying to rationalise the referee's judgement - but then why was Stuart Sinclair booked at Bury for alleged simulation on the half-way line? The referee (Gavin Ward) seemed incapable of applying the same degree of control over the two sides even-handedly. That's Gavin Ward, who last season at Southend apologised to Darrell Clarke for erroneously giving a penalty against us for handball, costing us two points. Saw him referee on numerous occasions and not only rovers game s and his performance yesterday was on a par with all the others his decision making is questionable and he seems to have the little man syndrome of I will show you who is in charge. How he gets away with it is simple the assessors are other current or retired referees.they see nothing wrong with their erstwhile colleagues unless it is highlighted on television |
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Post by kwoodgas on Sept 24, 2017 13:06:13 GMT
On selection; I think Sercombe was given a rest after playing every minute of every game so far. OC and CL have been an effective partnership before and Sercombe is the sort of player that can be effective off the bench so I don't think DC got that one hugely wrong.
4-4-2 has generally served us well over the years but Blackpool flooded the midfield in the first half and had some good technicians in there. When Byron Moore plays you're essentially playing with ten and for me he's pound for pound one of the worst players I've seen for Rovers. Broom and Telford have looked bright in their cameo appearances and I don't know how neither can get a start over him.
I'd probably go 5-3-2 on Tuesday, Bodin in a free role behind Gaffney and giving Ellis a rest after 3 x 90 minute performances in a week.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 15:46:42 GMT
On selection; I think Sercombe was given a rest after playing every minute of every game so far. OC and CL have been an effective partnership before and Sercombe is the sort of player that can be effective off the bench so I don't think DC got that one hugely wrong. 4-4-2 has generally served us well over the years but Blackpool flooded the midfield in the first half and had some good technicians in there. When Byron Moore plays you're essentially playing with ten and for me he's pound for pound one of the worst players I've seen for Rovers. Broom and Telford have looked bright in their cameo appearances and I don't know how neither can get a start over him. I'd probably go 5-3-2 on Tuesday, Bodin in a free role behind Gaffney and giving Ellis a rest after 3 x 90 minute performances in a week. Slocombe Partington Lockyer Sweeney Broadbent Bola Clarke Lines Sercombe Bodin Gaffney Smith, Brown, Nichols, Harrison, Telford and depending on fitness any 2 of Broom, Sinclair, Leadbitter, Burn, James Clarke or Meyonaise (sp) With that team you are playing 5.4.1.bodin is not an out and out striker so you are using gaffney in a role he is not suited to play. If you are playing a lone striker it has to be Ellis and with the confidence he has after the last 4 or 5 games he will get by on adrenaline |
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Post by crater on Sept 24, 2017 16:27:26 GMT
Ellis range his nuts off but showed no intent at all to actually win the ball. Like the look of Telford and Bola is just too good a player not to make the team every week. Lockyer aside the loans and the new signings are easily our best players Especially near the end when the ball was bobbing about in our box.Ellis brought it down did a quick swivel to wrong foot 2 attackers the cleared it so far it was a throw in to Blackpool midway in their half.and of course you missed the several times when he chased a blackpool player some distance before getting a tackle in to put the ball out of play. But you wouldn't have seen that from the thatchers end Don't stand in the Thatcher'so end Paddy. Why would you think you know where I stand? Sounds like he's better in defence from what you say |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 16:49:58 GMT
Especially near the end when the ball was bobbing about in our box.Ellis brought it down did a quick swivel to wrong foot 2 attackers the cleared it so far it was a throw in to Blackpool midway in their half.and of course you missed the several times when he chased a blackpool player some distance before getting a tackle in to put the ball out of play. But you wouldn't have seen that from the thatchers end Don't stand in the Thatcher'so end Paddy. Why would you think you know where I stand? Sounds like he's better in defence from what you say [br Good all over the field for last 4 or 5 games but unless he scores a hat trick clears several off the line and tackles everyone who has the ball he will never please a section of the crowd I would imagine you were one of those who thought walker and lambert were lazy for not chasing every ball |
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Post by bloogas on Sept 24, 2017 16:53:17 GMT
Especially near the end when the ball was bobbing about in our box.Ellis brought it down did a quick swivel to wrong foot 2 attackers the cleared it so far it was a throw in to Blackpool midway in their half.and of course you missed the several times when he chased a blackpool player some distance before getting a tackle in to put the ball out of play. But you wouldn't have seen that from the thatchers end Don't stand in the Thatcher'so end Paddy. Why would you think you know where I stand? Sounds like he's better in defence from what you say Funny you say that - my little gang thought maybe we should convert him into a centre back! Seriously though, he seems to be maturing at last. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 17:15:55 GMT
Don't stand in the Thatcher'so end Paddy. Why would you think you know where I stand? Sounds like he's better in defence from what you say Funny you say that - my little gang thought maybe we should convert him into a centre back! Seriously though, he seems to be maturing at last. My son said to him you would be a good centre half, Ellis laughed and said no chance. |
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Post by crater on Sept 24, 2017 17:23:29 GMT
Don't stand in the Thatcher'so end Paddy. Why would you think you know where I stand? Sounds like he's better in defence from what you say [br Good all over the field for last 4 or 5 games but unless he scores a hat trick clears several off the line and tackles everyone who has the ball he will never please a section of the crowd I would imagine you were one of those who thought walker and lambert were lazy for not chasing every ball You have made a fair few assumptions there and got them all wrong...maybe the lesson there is not to hold the insane belief you know what someone else thinks when you clearly don't |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 17:30:39 GMT
[br Good all over the field for last 4 or 5 games but unless he scores a hat trick clears several off the line and tackles everyone who has the ball he will never please a section of the crowd I would imagine you were one of those who thought walker and lambert were lazy for not chasing every ball You have made a fair few assumptions there and got them all wrong...maybe the lesson there is not to hold the insane belief you know what someone else thinks when you clearly don't So the answer is to agree with what you say regardless of your own opinions Got it now. Reminds me of a teacher we had at school he was right all the time even when the text books told him otherwise |
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Post by Igitur on Sept 24, 2017 17:42:52 GMT
You have made a fair few assumptions there and got them all wrong...maybe the lesson there is not to hold the insane belief you know what someone else thinks when you clearly don't So the answer is to agree with what you say regardless of your own opinions Got it now. Reminds me of a teacher we had at school he was right all the time even when the text books told him otherwise ![]()  from a Saudi textbook. Attachments:
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