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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 20:55:54 GMT
LOL if the debt collectors turned up on Saturday afternoon and took the scoreboard somebody on one of the forums would try and put a positive spin on it "we need that space for the new stand" etc. FFS if we can't pay a bill how are we go to self fund a rebuild of the Mem costing £20/30m? Not sure its a positive spin, just a fact of what companies do sometimes, could be a dispute on services not provided. No one knows the facts, but could be a perfectly normal reason why a bill/bills haven't been paid. As I say if anyone thinks BRFC has paid every bill on or before the due date you'd be mad Aren't you at all worried about the way that he evaded the question? Edit. Sorry, this thread was supposed to be about those freeloaders Masters and Seymour-Smith. What do you expect? We'll see them when it's election time or one of them wants something, like sponsorship for a charity walk. Just looked at the SC website. Masters efforts in the last 12 months; One Director's report, Sept 2016. One piece about Ray Mabbutt, Nov 2016 A piece 2 days ago saying that the SC are sponsoring a U21 team, but he gives more column inches to talking about himself than the subject at hand. Seymour-Smith's efforts in the last 12 months; One Director's report, Sep 2016 One piece about crowd trouble at Vale Part Feb 2017. In 12 months, between them, our representatives on the board have managed a total of 5 items. It's embarrassing.
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Post by kidgas on Aug 9, 2017 22:37:57 GMT
What's going on? The club has pulled out of a deal to put us on a leasehold again, the very thing that caused our demise in the first place. Wael should be applauded for his actions. There's nothing in his interview that suggests a withdrawel by the family. Quite the opposite in fact. It's going to be interesting to see their plans for the Mem. With the right designers we could be looking at an innovative solution that is unique to Bristol Rovers. What's going on ? Conformation bills going unpaid , no news on training ground , no conformation the family are committed to the cause ? No real p!an about the mem , all bones and no meat.... Apathy rules the masses yet again from an interview that told us nothing really apart from contradiction and waffle ... Here's hoping Geoff 20man goes for some real answers ... I've had a reply from BSS suggesting the reps are seeking assurances and have requested a board meeting What conformation do you have of bills going unpaid, lockleazer?
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Post by DudeLebowski on Aug 10, 2017 1:47:49 GMT
Facebook. Where the majority of these 'rumours' have originated & where everyone knows best....
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Post by Peter Parker on Aug 10, 2017 5:24:57 GMT
Not sure its a positive spin, just a fact of what companies do sometimes, could be a dispute on services not provided. No one knows the facts, but could be a perfectly normal reason why a bill/bills haven't been paid. As I say if anyone thinks BRFC has paid every bill on or before the due date you'd be mad Aren't you at all worried about the way that he evaded the question? Edit. Sorry, this thread was supposed to be about those freeloaders Masters and Seymour-Smith. What do you expect? We'll see them when it's election time or one of them wants something, like sponsorship for a charity walk. Just looked at the SC website. Masters efforts in the last 12 months; One Director's report, Sept 2016. One piece about Ray Mabbutt, Nov 2016 A piece 2 days ago saying that the SC are sponsoring a U21 team, but he gives more column inches to talking about himself than the subject at hand. Seymour-Smith's efforts in the last 12 months; One Director's report, Sep 2016 One piece about crowd trouble at Vale Part Feb 2017. In 12 months, between them, our representatives on the board have managed a total of 5 items. It's embarrassing. maybe but like everything else its people saying bills unpaid, yet no one has mentioned who the f**k hasnt apparently been paid but are happy to repeat a rumour
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Post by DudeLebowski on Aug 10, 2017 5:55:27 GMT
Aren't you at all worried about the way that he evaded the question? Edit. Sorry, this thread was supposed to be about those freeloaders Masters and Seymour-Smith. What do you expect? We'll see them when it's election time or one of them wants something, like sponsorship for a charity walk. Just looked at the SC website. Masters efforts in the last 12 months; One Director's report, Sept 2016. One piece about Ray Mabbutt, Nov 2016 A piece 2 days ago saying that the SC are sponsoring a U21 team, but he gives more column inches to talking about himself than the subject at hand. Seymour-Smith's efforts in the last 12 months; One Director's report, Sep 2016 One piece about crowd trouble at Vale Part Feb 2017. In 12 months, between them, our representatives on the board have managed a total of 5 items. It's embarrassing. maybe but like everything else its people saying bills unpaid, yet no one has mentioned who the f hasnt apparently been paid but are happy to repeat a rumour The joy of social media. Someone logs on, throws that one into the 'appreciation' page & all hell breaks loose. Suddenly we aren't paying bills, the club is f.cked & it's all doom & gloom. With no actual hint of evidence/truth, total madness. Anyway, onto Posh!
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Post by matealotblue on Aug 10, 2017 6:14:44 GMT
maybe but like everything else its people saying bills unpaid, yet no one has mentioned who the f hasnt apparently been paid but are happy to repeat a rumour The joy of social media. Someone logs on, throws that one into the 'appreciation' page & all hell breaks loose. Suddenly we aren't paying bills, the club is f.cked & it's all doom & gloom. With no actual hint of evidence/truth, total madness. Anyway, onto Posh! Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.
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Post by Peter Parker on Aug 10, 2017 7:07:37 GMT
Where are you ? What's your view of what's going on ? As usual we hear nothing from the very people elected to represent the fans just to go back to the original point, what is The Supporters Club's view on all this.
I mean, it's not quite on the serious scale of there being No Open Top Bus, but I mean what has happened is pretty close
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Post by pirate49 on Aug 10, 2017 7:38:53 GMT
Back to the OP.
We should not refer to BSS and KM as Fans' Reps. They are Supporters' Club Directors. For many reasons the majority of fans do not belong to the SC. Ergo BSS and KM do not represent the majority of fans. Sometimes they report to the SC committee, but that committee seems not to report to the fans. As far as I know neither KM nor BSS attended the testimonial for Pete Aitken. Considering that his work in the community was primarily with the fans of the future that's a poor show. It may be that BSS does not stand again in the election at the SC AGM in a couple of months time. There could be be the opportunity for someone else to stand. For most fans the SC Directors at present are an irrelevance. Other clubs' fans may be jealous of the fact that we nominally have these two positions, but it seems to me that in reality their influence and importance is minimal.
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Post by faggotygas on Aug 10, 2017 8:19:18 GMT
Back to the OP. We should not refer to BSS and KM as Fans' Reps. They are Supporters' Club Directors. For many reasons the majority of fans do not belong to the SC. Ergo BSS and KM do not represent the majority of fans. Sometimes they report to the SC committee, but that committee seems not to report to the fans. As far as I know neither KM nor BSS attended the testimonial for Pete Aitken. Considering that his work in the community was primarily with the fans of the future that's a poor show. It may be that BSS does not stand again in the election at the SC AGM in a couple of months time. There could be be the opportunity for someone else to stand. For most fans the SC Directors at present are an irrelevance. Other clubs' fans may be jealous of the fact that we nominally have these two positions, but it seems to me that in reality their influence and importance is minimal. A terrible missed opportunity, really
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2017 8:38:35 GMT
Back to the OP. We should not refer to BSS and KM as Fans' Reps. They are Supporters' Club Directors. For many reasons the majority of fans do not belong to the SC. Ergo BSS and KM do not represent the majority of fans. Sometimes they report to the SC committee, but that committee seems not to report to the fans. As far as I know neither KM nor BSS attended the testimonial for Pete Aitken. Considering that his work in the community was primarily with the fans of the future that's a poor show. It may be that BSS does not stand again in the election at the SC AGM in a couple of months time. There could be be the opportunity for someone else to stand. For most fans the SC Directors at present are an irrelevance. Other clubs' fans may be jealous of the fact that we nominally have these two positions, but it seems to me that in reality their influence and importance is minimal. Please don't make me do it, like everybody else, I'm busy, but if pressed I'll wager that I could find something around election time from each of them saying that, 'if elected they will do their best to represent the views and opinions of all supporters'. Looks like they know less about what's going on than Hamer does. I'm tempted to say that the owners should do the right thing and buy the SC shares at the price paid, but I'm not convinced that the SC having that much money in the bank would be a good idea.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2017 8:40:47 GMT
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Post by gasgomarchingin on Aug 10, 2017 8:44:18 GMT
Aren't you at all worried about the way that he evaded the question? Edit. Sorry, this thread was supposed to be about those freeloaders Masters and Seymour-Smith. What do you expect? We'll see them when it's election time or one of them wants something, like sponsorship for a charity walk. Just looked at the SC website. Masters efforts in the last 12 months; One Director's report, Sept 2016. One piece about Ray Mabbutt, Nov 2016 A piece 2 days ago saying that the SC are sponsoring a U21 team, but he gives more column inches to talking about himself than the subject at hand. Seymour-Smith's efforts in the last 12 months; One Director's report, Sep 2016 One piece about crowd trouble at Vale Part Feb 2017. In 12 months, between them, our representatives on the board have managed a total of 5 items. It's embarrassing. maybe but like everything else its people saying bills unpaid, yet no one has mentioned who the f hasnt apparently been paid but are happy to repeat a rumour Is that you in the picture?
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Post by Peter Parker on Aug 10, 2017 8:53:58 GMT
maybe but like everything else its people saying bills unpaid, yet no one has mentioned who the f hasnt apparently been paid but are happy to repeat a rumour Is that you in the picture? That be I
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Aug 10, 2017 9:07:00 GMT
Isn't it time we had a fans representative to the board rather than the other way round?
Haven't had a decent rep since Kim Stuckey IMHO. The only one who has tried to be wholly inclusive of the fan base.
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Post by pirate49 on Aug 10, 2017 9:20:31 GMT
Back to the OP. We should not refer to BSS and KM as Fans' Reps. They are Supporters' Club Directors. For many reasons the majority of fans do not belong to the SC. Ergo BSS and KM do not represent the majority of fans. Sometimes they report to the SC committee, but that committee seems not to report to the fans. As far as I know neither KM nor BSS attended the testimonial for Pete Aitken. Considering that his work in the community was primarily with the fans of the future that's a poor show. It may be that BSS does not stand again in the election at the SC AGM in a couple of months time. There could be be the opportunity for someone else to stand. For most fans the SC Directors at present are an irrelevance. Other clubs' fans may be jealous of the fact that we nominally have these two positions, but it seems to me that in reality their influence and importance is minimal. Please don't make me do it, like everybody else, I'm busy, but if pressed I'll wager that I could find something around election time from each of them saying that, 'if elected they will do their best to represent the views and opinions of all supporters'. Looks like they know less about what's going on than Hamer does. ...and then consider the 'perks' that go with the post. Free tickets home and away, seats in a box, as much food as you can eat, free parking, hob-knobbing with the great and the good from other clubs....and the 'status'. Fans get a very poor return for all that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2017 9:28:13 GMT
Isn't it time we had a fans representative to the board rather than the other way round? Haven't had a decent rep since Kim Stuckey IMHO. The only one who has tried to be wholly inclusive of the fan base. Hard top see how it would work. Problem 1. Would have to sit through endless SC meetings and listen to questions such as 'why does the price we pay for shares matter'. Problem 2. Sadly, it looks like things won't be any easier for SC reps under the new owners, their Chairman doesn't seem to know what's happening, what chance someone representing a SC that looks to be argumentative and allows someone to empty their bank account?
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Post by tanksfull on Aug 10, 2017 9:31:32 GMT
I guess its down to rumours or truth .. The talk i heard was payment was being withheld till the club revived the 1st TV rights payment... Suggest cash flow not disputes were the issue I guess it's down to what or who each of us gives most credence to: the guy in the know giving the interview and answering directly, or the talk you heard (God knows where, from whom, and how far down the line of Chinese whispers that was from anyone with direct knowledge). I run a business and I, in no uncertain terms, know exactly what my answer would be to anyone outside of the parties concerned... However this is a football club and they have to acknowledge tens of thousands of "interested" parties who actually have no real right to know at all. I totally understand the intrigue but feel he has said much, much more than he needs to; it's between the parties who have the contract.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2017 9:31:48 GMT
Please don't make me do it, like everybody else, I'm busy, but if pressed I'll wager that I could find something around election time from each of them saying that, 'if elected they will do their best to represent the views and opinions of all supporters'. Looks like they know less about what's going on than Hamer does. ...and then consider the 'perks' that go with the post. Free tickets home and away, seats in a box, as much food as you can eat, free parking, hob-knobbing with the great and the good from other clubs....and the 'status'. Fans get a very poor return for all that. Not arguing with any of that. But my point was that I'll bet that both have said that they will represent everybody, whether a SS or SC member or not.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2017 9:34:50 GMT
The Supporters Club isn't really fit for purpose, and hasn't been for over a decade.
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Post by Peter Parker on Aug 10, 2017 9:40:36 GMT
Isn't it time we had a fans representative to the board rather than the other way round? Haven't had a decent rep since Kim Stuckey IMHO. The only one who has tried to be wholly inclusive of the fan base. Hard top see how it would work. Problem 1. Would have to sit through endless SC meetings and listen to questions such as 'why does the price we pay for shares matter'. Problem 2. Sadly, it looks like things won't be any easier for SC reps under the new owners, their Chairman doesn't seem to know what's happening, what chance someone representing a SC that looks to be argumentative and allows someone to empty their bank account? under the new regime the SC reps probably have even less influence than they did before, but in some ways that makes there role more important given that the current ownership keeps thing close to it's chest (understandably)
Where is the SC voice on the end of the UWE deal? before Jim or someone else would be wheeled out on the radio almost instantly to give reaction. currently not a peep from anyone that I am aware of
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