HD&Q
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Post by HD&Q on Jun 1, 2014 19:55:59 GMT
I don't think it will happen (Coventry kicked out the FL), but if it did we would be reprieved i.e. the arrangement is 2 teams leave the FL (Torquay and Coventry) and are replaced by 2 from the Skrill, if it happened any other way, that would be 3 teams relegated. Sadly it won't happen anyway!
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Post by lincolnfan on Jun 1, 2014 19:55:59 GMT
I have no idea. I just suspect they would try to avoid upheaval and run with one less team. All the current fixtures will probably have been cleared with PcPlod by now and I don't think they will alter the constitutions which were agreed last week. I could be quite wrong but I think it would be far too "inventive" for the FL chaps. The article seems to suggest that the money is being "held" and the dispute is over the precise amount.
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Post by HD&Q on Jun 1, 2014 19:59:39 GMT
I have no idea. I just suspect they would try to avoid upheaval and run with one less team. All the current fixtures will probably have been cleared with PcPlod by now and I don't think they will alter the constitutions which were agreed last week. I could be quite wrong but I think it would be far too "inventive" for the FL chaps. I don't think there is anyway they would run with one club less. If as you said they have already gone through the fixtures, they could simply give Coventry's to Tranmere (Tranmere's will always clash with Liverpool or Everton, so what difference would it make?).
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Post by brizzle on Jun 1, 2014 20:02:12 GMT
If a team drops out of the football league, they will have to be replaced. Question is, does the league table move up through the whole football pyramid or do they look at the best placed relegated teams to fill the positions (Tranmere and errrr us...) I vote the second option... Funny thing that, I was thinking exactly the same thing myself.
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Post by lincolnfan on Jun 1, 2014 20:03:00 GMT
I cannot remember the last time the FL reinstated a relegated club. I would think the FL will do everything possible to get round the Coventry situation without changing anything. Just my opinion.
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Post by HD&Q on Jun 1, 2014 20:19:39 GMT
I cannot remember the last time the FL reinstated a relegated club. I would think the FL will do everything possible to get round the Coventry situation without changing anything. Just my opinion. Re last time they reinstated a relegated club, this is hardly a regular occurrence, when was the last time this happened? There is hardly any precedent. I don't believe the FL would sanction 3 of its teams dropping out the league in 1 season, when they don't have to.
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Post by The Man from Del Monte on Jun 1, 2014 20:20:08 GMT
When Gretna went out of business I believe their was a bid to replace them. Annan Athletic won.
Imagine if our board had to put together a bidding package...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2014 20:21:33 GMT
Sides have stayed up when the team 'promoted' doesn't meet the criteria, they don't invite the next-best side to fill their place. What's the difference?
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Post by lincolnfan on Jun 1, 2014 20:24:55 GMT
Unless Coventry fold completely I would think there might be sanctions against them, fines or even a points deduction but nothing more than that. I can't see them being booted out of League One.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2014 20:25:58 GMT
Nor can I, but if they were, reprieving the least worst relegated teams below them would be my proposed solution.
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Post by lincolnfan on Jun 1, 2014 20:26:02 GMT
Sides have stayed up when the team 'promoted' doesn't meet the criteria, they don't invite the next-best side to fill their place. What's the difference? Not sure when that last happened in the FL league. If Conference North/South teams don't meet the criteria they are simply not allowed to take part in the play offs.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2014 20:27:48 GMT
Sides have stayed up when the team 'promoted' doesn't meet the criteria, they don't invite the next-best side to fill their place. What's the difference? Not sure when that last happened in the FL league. If Conference North/South teams don't meet the criteria they are simply not allowed to take part in the play offs. Torquay got a reprieve one year, I think it was Stevenage who couldn't come up. Wrexham, too, but that was early 90s. It has happened, although probably not since the advent of 2 up 2 down.
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Post by lincolnfan on Jun 1, 2014 20:30:56 GMT
Sides have stayed up when the team 'promoted' doesn't meet the criteria, they don't invite the next-best side to fill their place. What's the difference? Not sure when that has happened in the FL but that's what would happen in the Conference North/South - if clubs don't meet the criteria they would be barred from the play offs and the place offered to the "next best" as it were who did meet the criteria.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2014 22:04:27 GMT
Seem to remember FGR staying in the conference even though they finished in the relegation places,but can't remember why
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Post by Teigngas on Jun 2, 2014 6:36:57 GMT
Seem to remember FGR staying in the conference even though they finished in the relegation places,but can't remember why Yeah that rings a bell with me too. Someone due to come up could not meet stadium criteria if I remember correctly?
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Post by liambrownscfc on Jun 2, 2014 8:54:45 GMT
Seem to remember FGR staying in the conference even though they finished in the relegation places,but can't remember why That was at the expense of Salisbury City, a few seasons back, we were demoted 2 leagues, and FGR stayed up, as did Weston-Super-Mare in the Conference South. That is when Darrell Clarke moved from the Salisbury captain to the Salisbury manager, and got us promotion through the play-offs from the Southern League Premier in the first season, up to the conference south. 2 seasons there, then back to the Conference Premier through the play-offs again. The first season back in the conference south included us getting to the 3rd round of the FA Cup for the 1st time in our history, that took some doing for us... Basically, you really have got a good manager, he did an amazing job for us.
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Post by Ilfracombe Gas on Jun 2, 2014 8:56:07 GMT
But there is precedence albeit slightly different circumstances. Back in the late 1980's with Swindon Town
"Swindon win promotion to the First Division. The joy is short-lived though, as just ten days later, the Football League decide to demote the Town two divisions, after they admit 36 breaches of League rules - 35 of which are related to illegal payments. The Swindon board immediately appeal, but High Court action is dropped due to lack of funding - and the fans protest, thousands signing a "1st not 3rd" petition. The FA Appeal Panel reduce the demotion to just one division, and Swindon are denied their first-ever taste of top flight football."
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Post by hollyhillgas on Jun 2, 2014 9:19:19 GMT
Going back to the 70s, when the bottom club in the FL had to apply for re-election, Port Vale broke some rules and were punished by being told they would finish bottom no matter how many points they achieved. This let the bottom club off.
What happened when Rangers were were demoted 3 divisions in Scotland?
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Post by martyhopkirk on Jun 2, 2014 11:30:49 GMT
Not sure when that last happened in the FL league. If Conference North/South teams don't meet the criteria they are simply not allowed to take part in the play offs. Torquay got a reprieve one year, I think it was Stevenage who couldn't come up. Wrexham, too, but that was early 90s. It has happened, although probably not since the advent of 2 up 2 down. That's different. Effectively there was no promotion/relegation in those season, not a case of a relegated team being reprieved, semantics perhaps? In the case of Stevenage they were informed well in advance (the previous Christmas if memory serves) that their ground did not meet the Leagues minimum requirement of the time. That absurd rule has now been relaxed and the relationship and between the two leagues has been firmed up since then. In the case of a club being demoted or going bump the league has either promoted clubs or run a club short until such time the League can properly shuffle the pack. Correct me if I'm wrong I can't think of a club relegated that has been truly reprieved - besides if that was the case it would be known by now. Despite the fixtures not being publicly published until the 20th, they will be known and they are dissemenated to the clubs for observation and comment before that date. In the Coventry case if indeed they cannot satisfy the League of the financial stability, they have no chance what so ever with the Confrence who run a far tighter ship and they could well be faced looking at leagues lower than the Conference. if indeed it does come to pass. Marty...
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Post by meader on Jun 2, 2014 11:49:12 GMT
Why pay for something you not using and proberly never will again. Last season moves where being made to find a new home for Coventry City in another part of the city. The Richo arena is now dead and buried as a footballing venue!
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