kegandeg
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Post by kegandeg on Mar 15, 2017 20:15:17 GMT
Bodin isn't a striker he beats 3 players in the opposition half and then scores from outside the box further forward he only needs to beat one defender to score why the reluctance to try him as a striker we have enough players to cover his position !
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 20:42:49 GMT
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Post by stevek192 on Mar 15, 2017 21:19:36 GMT
Good report Irish but as for the referee getting the big decisions right and not affecting the game is IMO totally wrong. He gave 90% of decisions to Bury and by that I mean he was totally inconsistent and the referee being like this DOES affect the game because the players become more and more frustrated when there is no consistency in the referees decisions to the extent that it looked like he had an invested interest and then you find out he is within 15 miles of Bury- Joke. Just on the diving point there was the penalty and three free kicks on the edge of our box where based on the two "dives" by Sinclair could all be queried and all went in Bury's way. I would go as far as to say he was the worst referee we have had this season by a fair distance.
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 15, 2017 21:25:55 GMT
Thanks Irish. Good to read. Wasn't there so it's hard to say anything about the critical incidents. But reading your report I appreciate your point about them not affecting the end result. I guess we put it down to a team not playing as well as they could after a hard month without a couple of key midfielders. It happens and we move on to the Chesterfield match! Whenever we have a bad match I look back to two years ago and the equivalent match. It was against Aldershot, we won 3-1 but we were still behind Barnet and success for that season was still in doubt. I would have bitten my arm off to have someone saying to me "in two years you will be in 8th place in League 1." I find doing that keeps me grounded after a bad result. COYB. UTG!
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on Mar 16, 2017 11:15:37 GMT
From the highlights, first one is definitely not a booking. Sinclair has his back to the Bury player who runs across the back of him. Sinclair would not have seen him clip his ankles, and you can see from his reaction when the ref pulls out the card that he is bemused about it. Glad he didn't protest too much as would have likely had a second yellow straight away and shows good discipline.
The second is difficult to argue against and was just plain daft given the earlier booking, no matter how unjust that was.
The penalty decision is appalling. No contact whatsoever and a definite booking for simulation.
Either the ref was totally inept (likely conclusion) or a blatant cheat.
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irishrover
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Post by irishrover on Mar 16, 2017 14:51:52 GMT
Good report Irish but as for the referee getting the big decisions right and not affecting the game is IMO totally wrong. He gave 90% of decisions to Bury and by that I mean he was totally inconsistent and the referee being like this DOES affect the game because the players become more and more frustrated when there is no consistency in the referees decisions to the extent that it looked like he had an invested interest and then you find out he is within 15 miles of Bury- Joke. Just on the diving point there was the penalty and three free kicks on the edge of our box where based on the two "dives" by Sinclair could all be queried and all went in Bury's way. I would go as far as to say he was the worst referee we have had this season by a fair distance. Fine - but crap refereeing is something that happens (although nowhere near as often as people seem to think - it's not an easy job and many who have never done it sound off as if it's a piece of piss; I've done it once and I was absolutely dire and had no idea what I was doing). Home-town refereeing will also occur - human nature, we get our fair share of marginal decisions at the Mem particularly from linesmen over the years ('just to stick your flag up when I tell you lino - good lad').
What you do have control of is your actions and we were not smart. The key moment was ultimately the Sinclair sending off and that was flat out dumb football and unprofessional on his part - again, not worth hauling him over the coals for but he is accountable for that. We also have control over tactics and our response to adversity and we clearly didn't get that right either. Scapegoating the referee is easy and can be a good valve for frustration but it doesn't get us anywhere, in the long run you look at your own contribution - and it was a flat out poor performance from us where we didn't come to terms with the opposition very well at all and seemed flat and lacking energy throughout. Not a disaster - it's going to happen sometimes and is understandable particularly after the run of tough games we've had and the thin nature of the squad at the moment. But tat had very little to do with the ref. I would be very disappointed if our management team went into the dressing room and went 'well played lads - you deserved something today but were screwed over by a s**t ref' because we didn't deserve anything for what was a poor performance.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 15:20:38 GMT
Regardless of whether the referee was poor or not if you look at the stas Bury had 3 shots on target and scored 3 goals Rovers had 7 on target and scored 0,that is why we lost,officials do not lose you the game,they may affect it but they do not score goals or miss them. I recall years ago at Twerton a referee called Roger Fitzpatrick was refereeing a game and a Rovers player missed a sitter,the ground was quiet and everyone could hear the refs comment to the player saying that was rubbish my granny could have done better,just saying Yeah - I have to say that '7 shots on target' thing I find a bit strange because that seems like quite a lot and I really don't remember them. I can only really remember their goalie making the 1 serious save and that was right at the end - maybe I blotted this out but 7 shots on targets suggests a decent attacking performance in which we created many chances but weren't clinical. That doesn't square with what I saw-which was a failure to generate any serious attacking threat at all. My point is that I agree that we have an issue with the forwards and that was a big difference between the sides (James Vaughan, who I always rate at this level did the business for Bury yesterday and was a constant threat) but for me it wasn't a case that we were wasteful as suggested by that stat - it was more that we never looked like carving out opportunities to score in the first place. Moore had one tipped over early on,Lockyer hit the post and Brown had one cleared of the line and the save you mention. Thats four good efforts and most were when we were down to ten men.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 15:28:50 GMT
Missed the first half hour due to a trip to A&E, Rovers didn't play well or badly, they were just bland, the ref was awful, I couldn't care less tbh. Feet up for the rest of the season and no stress. Thank god.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 18, 2017 20:06:14 GMT
Missed the first half hour due to a trip to A&E, Rovers didn't play well or badly, they were just bland, the ref was awful, I couldn't care less tbh. Feet up for the rest of the season and no stress. Thank god. Thank god DC doesn't have the same attitude
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