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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 12:23:39 GMT
It's a stupid decision by the manager Surely the manager just tells the players he wants to retain, not writes every single contract? I read that as a stupid decision not to play him. Maybe the order came from above?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 13:42:30 GMT
It's a stupid decision by the manager, unless aligned with the contract extension is some form of financial bonus. The player is easily good enough for L1. We don't have another player who does the same thing that Jermaine does, he causes defenders problems that none of our other players can, creates space for attackers in front of him and chips in with a fair number of goals. Hard to believe that the useless Puddy was given a reprieve and made the bench whilst Jermaine was left out of the squad, one will cost you a tight game, the other will give you a decent chance of winning it. It might be a decision made on medical advice due to the nature of his current injury which needs an operation. Does the manager want a player under contract next season who might not be able to play? Welcome to the nasty side of football. Injury? Did I miss where that was reported?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 13:45:32 GMT
It's a stupid decision by the manager Surely the manager just tells the players he wants to retain, not writes every single contract? The bit that appeared 'stupid' was telling him he wouldn't be considered for selection again. Now it seems he's injured? I'm getting more and more confused, thought the manager had said, when pressed in an interview on the subject of Jermaine playing for Rovers again, ''never say never''.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 14:01:10 GMT
It might be a decision made on medical advice due to the nature of his current injury which needs an operation. Does the manager want a player under contract next season who might not be able to play? Welcome to the nasty side of football. Injury? Did I miss where that was reported? From Gaschat SH also said he was about to have a knee operation and, perhaps ill-advisedly, said that given his age 'he's finished'.
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Post by Peter Parker on Feb 17, 2017 14:21:33 GMT
It might be a decision made on medical advice due to the nature of his current injury which needs an operation. Does the manager want a player under contract next season who might not be able to play? Welcome to the nasty side of football. Injury? Did I miss where that was reported? DC doesnt talk about injuries, or tries not to
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Post by laughinggas on Feb 17, 2017 14:52:27 GMT
Thought that was Mildenhall? Is there crossed wires?
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 17, 2017 16:04:03 GMT
Question about Easter "The 'Easter' question was asked to SH. He said if he plays he is likely to trigger a clause that gives him another years contract, plus his agent is the same one as Matty Taylor had and i think SH said ' you don't invite someone in your home who has stole off you before' or along those lines." Ouch, that avenue has gone then. What a very sad episode in that an agent can potentially cause the club to have to treat such individuals as thieves and that it can have such an effect upon team selection. As I see it, IF the player offers something that we haven't got then it has to be worth the triggering of another contract but it looks like the stories I heard about the team being unsettled around 5-6 weeks ago may have been true and all over one pox ridden arse who will one day understand you never get away with anything. A very sad thing when all else looks so promising
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 17, 2017 16:16:01 GMT
Question about Easter "The 'Easter' question was asked to SH. He said if he plays he is likely to trigger a clause that gives him another years contract, plus his agent is the same one as Matty Taylor had and i think SH said ' you don't invite someone in your home who has stole off you before' or along those lines." Ouch, that avenue has gone then. Probably a fair call by SH then. Feel sorry for Easter as he's a victim of circumstance but maybe he needs to pick his agent more carefully in future. I applaud the club for taking a stand (as I simultaneously put my tin hat on...) Having invited people into back into my house who habe stolen from me, literally, I don't see any choice. As much as I think JE could play a big part in our remaining fixtures, someone has to say enough. I don't think anyone can blame the player because, as I understand it, it was the slithering one who pushed to be gone. The agent would just be rubbing his hands but he will be very much a marked man now and I would doubt he will get the players he maybe could have prior to this. At least, I hope this is the case
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Post by Alveston Gas on Feb 17, 2017 16:22:35 GMT
It's a stupid clause that benefits neither player nor club. Easters agent has perhaps cost him a good contract next season at a new club since he can now not prove he's a league one player still or he's fit. Stupid clause. Surely it works both ways - a certain number of performances can trigger an extension - but that can easily be to the benefit of the club if the player is worth keeping!! Anyway seems like we have seen the last of Jamma at the Gas!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 17:16:22 GMT
It's a stupid clause that benefits neither player nor club. Easters agent has perhaps cost him a good contract next season at a new club since he can now not prove he's a league one player still or he's fit. Stupid clause. Surely it works both ways - a certain number of performances can trigger an extension - but that can easily be to the benefit of the club if the player is worth keeping!! Anyway seems like we have seen the last of Jamma at the Gas! Unfortunately they are only ever written to favour the player otherwise you would have a player faking injuries if he didn't want an extension. The one which was never challenged in the past was the release clause after relegation which can result in players deliberately not scoring against Mansfield.
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Post by davehuddscousin on Feb 17, 2017 17:38:18 GMT
I think the 'Mansfield' allegation is unfair. I don't think the player you mentioned deliberately missed, he was just not playing well enough to convert the chance....
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 17, 2017 17:40:03 GMT
Surely it works both ways - a certain number of performances can trigger an extension - but that can easily be to the benefit of the club if the player is worth keeping!! Anyway seems like we have seen the last of Jamma at the Gas! Unfortunately they are only ever written to favour the player otherwise you would have a player faking injuries if he didn't want an extension. The one which was never challenged in the past was the release clause after relegation which can result in players deliberately not scoring against Mansfield. Wow, I know this JJOT saga has seen some forum time but personally I never saw him deliberately not trying to score and I wouldn't believe he would do that. I know I am in a minority in that I wish the team around him were playing better and scoring like him. If I were to believe that then it would be time to pack up all and any interest in the club. I openly admit that I don't watch hardly any other football nor habe I ever had a second team, it's rovers or nothing here. How I wish you wouldn't habe said that Kevin, it's now planted a seed and I will HAVE to watch that dreadful game again. Lord knows I'd love to wipe it from my memory and the faces of fellow gas as I stumbled in the club bar. Yes, the possibility of a player doing what you say is there but I jjsy can't believe he would do it, not someone with his ego.
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Post by JeffNZ on Feb 17, 2017 20:28:29 GMT
How I wish you wouldn't have said that Kevin, it's now planted a seed and I will HAVE to watch that dreadful game again. Lord knows I'd love to wipe it from my memory and the faces of fellow gas as I stumbled in the club bar.. Thankfully I don't have a recording of that fateful game and if I did I could not bring myself to watch it again. If you do put yourself through that torture KP it would be interesting to get your opinion?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 21:32:55 GMT
How I wish you wouldn't have said that Kevin, it's now planted a seed and I will HAVE to watch that dreadful game again. Lord knows I'd love to wipe it from my memory and the faces of fellow gas as I stumbled in the club bar.. Thankfully I don't have a recording of that fateful game and if I did I could not bring myself to watch it again. If you do put yourself through that torture KP it would be interesting to get your opinion? Just watched the highlights again. If Waster O'Toole can miss the target by those margins deliberately he's a world class player.
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Post by droitwichgas on Feb 18, 2017 11:01:54 GMT
Probably a fair call by SH then. Feel sorry for Easter as he's a victim of circumstance but maybe he needs to pick his agent more carefully in future. I applaud the club for taking a stand (as I simultaneously put my tin hat on...) Having invited people into back into my house who habe stolen from me, literally, I don't see any choice. As much as I think JE could play a big part in our remaining fixtures, someone has to say enough. I don't think anyone can blame the player because, as I understand it, it was the slithering one who pushed to be gone. The agent would just be rubbing his hands but he will be very much a marked man now and I would doubt he will get the players he maybe could have prior to this. At least, I hope this is the case Not so sure about that he may struggle to do business with Rovers present owners but I doubt it will effect any any other dealings. Although given we seem to struggle to get players in do then we really want to be falling out with what seems a large football players agency anyway? The only people we can really blame for this saga is NH/DC not giving MT a 2 year contract when we were promoted from the Conference. Although even that contract would now be coming to an end this summer. As far as Easter after the Patterson farce I'm surprised we still offer automatic contract extensions based on appearances.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 19, 2017 20:19:30 GMT
Having invited people into back into my house who habe stolen from me, literally, I don't see any choice. As much as I think JE could play a big part in our remaining fixtures, someone has to say enough. I don't think anyone can blame the player because, as I understand it, it was the slithering one who pushed to be gone. The agent would just be rubbing his hands but he will be very much a marked man now and I would doubt he will get the players he maybe could have prior to this. At least, I hope this is the case Not so sure about that he may struggle to do business with Rovers present owners but I doubt it will effect any any other dealings. Although given we seem to struggle to get players in do then we really want to be falling out with what seems a large football players agency anyway? The only people we can really blame for this saga is NH/DC not giving MT a 2 year contract when we were promoted from the Conference. Although even that contract would now be coming to an end this summer. As far as Easter after the Patterson farce I'm surprised we still offer automatic contract extensions based on appearances. DC is still very new to the football league and will not have the contacts that older managers have. I am not worried about this agent or agency but I do wonder if we could do with someone at the club who does have those contacts and could call in some favours
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Post by pirate49 on Feb 19, 2017 21:23:28 GMT
Not so sure about that he may struggle to do business with Rovers present owners but I doubt it will effect any any other dealings. Although given we seem to struggle to get players in do then we really want to be falling out with what seems a large football players agency anyway? The only people we can really blame for this saga is NH/DC not giving MT a 2 year contract when we were promoted from the Conference. Although even that contract would now be coming to an end this summer. As far as Easter after the Patterson farce I'm surprised we still offer automatic contract extensions based on appearances. DC is still very new to the football league and will not have the contacts that older managers have. I am not worried about this agent or agency but I do wonder if we could do with someone at the club who does have those contacts and could call in some favours Wot?....like Lennie Lawrence.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 21:50:40 GMT
Not so sure about that he may struggle to do business with Rovers present owners but I doubt it will effect any any other dealings. Although given we seem to struggle to get players in do then we really want to be falling out with what seems a large football players agency anyway? The only people we can really blame for this saga is NH/DC not giving MT a 2 year contract when we were promoted from the Conference. Although even that contract would now be coming to an end this summer. As far as Easter after the Patterson farce I'm surprised we still offer automatic contract extensions based on appearances. DC is still very new to the football league and will not have the contacts that older managers have. I am not worried about this agent or agency but I do wonder if we could do with someone at the club who does have those contacts and could call in some favours Marcus and Steve Yates have been around. But just as important as that, people in the game will be well aware what he achieved here in his first 2 years, and what the new owners are doing behind the scenes.
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Post by pirate49 on Feb 20, 2017 17:16:37 GMT
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