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Post by crater on Oct 18, 2016 20:50:03 GMT
Pity we had to go down again (9 league games in a row) but only lost 1 of those 9 so once again this shows our never say die attitude...these late goals are no coincidence.
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Post by crater on Oct 18, 2016 20:56:07 GMT
you must feel like a right plonker for your posts tonight,hilarious for the rest of us though lol Not at all, I didn't see anyone queueing up to defend the changes merely the chief apologist had to resort to bringing up a manager who left over two years ago! Well done to all involved tonight, would've taken a point before hand but I'm sure those who were there will remember it for a long time. Maybe nobody else felt the need to defend the changes as we are used to seeing Darrell alter the line up on a fairly regular basis and we trust our manager to get it right more than he gets it wrong? |
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Post by tauntongas on Oct 18, 2016 20:58:44 GMT
DC, Radio Bristol interview: Pretty livid. Performance not good enough.
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Post by lostinspace on Oct 18, 2016 21:00:19 GMT
a case of a manager being confident in the team he chooses to start a game, but also being able to tinker with it whilst the game is unfolding,nothing too disastrous about his ability so far, no doubt he gets frustrated with the fact his team tend to go behind before they get a lead,
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Post by irishrover on Oct 18, 2016 21:02:12 GMT
Great result - let's keep it going.
Crap manager this Clarke fellow - doesn't have a clue what he's doing.... |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2016 21:15:17 GMT
Well when the petty online arguments have finished, if we don't lose our game in hand, we're in the playoffs. Terrible manager  |
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 18, 2016 21:18:26 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2016 21:18:46 GMT
Loved DC's interview. Not a happy chappy but his teams never give up attitude says a lot. What a manager! we stole a point.
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Post by kwoodgas on Oct 18, 2016 21:20:19 GMT
a case of a manager being confident in the team he chooses to start a game, but also being able to tinker with it whilst the game is unfolding,nothing too disastrous about his ability so far, no doubt he gets frustrated with the fact his team tend to go behind before they get a lead, And it's fantastic that he's built a team ethic that are never beaten and that they're fit enough to facilitate this...can we seriously rely on this lasting all season though or do we at some point try and work out our best team, using that as a base and freshening up sporadically. Look id have taken a point before a ball was kicked tonight so it's a decent result, but I can't believe we wouldn't have found ourselves with such an uphill struggle had we just made the one or two changes. |
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Post by tauntongas on Oct 18, 2016 21:30:03 GMT
a case of a manager being confident in the team he chooses to start a game, but also being able to tinker with it whilst the game is unfolding,nothing too disastrous about his ability so far, no doubt he gets frustrated with the fact his team tend to go behind before they get a lead, And it's fantastic that he's built a team ethic that are never beaten and that they're fit enough to facilitate this...can we seriously rely on this lasting all season though or do we at some point try and work out our best team, using that as a base and freshening up sporadically. Look id have taken a point before a ball was kicked tonight so it's a decent result, but I can't believe we wouldn't have found ourselves with such an uphill struggle had we just made the one or two changes. DC picked a team he thought would perform well enough to win the game. It didn't work. Over the course of the season, DC will learn whether or not his squads can tolerate changes en-masse or whether it is certain players or even certain blends of players that is the real cause. Using the way the team plays for him and his results over the last two-and-a-bit seasons as a yard stick, I think DC needs to be given free reign to do what he pleases, at present. |
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Post by Angas on Oct 18, 2016 21:31:14 GMT
I'd sooner have an uphill struggle, than score an early goal and end up losing.
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Post by lostinspace on Oct 18, 2016 21:42:28 GMT
I'd sooner have an uphill struggle, than score an early goal and end up losing. and would we not be so jarred off if teams came back against as often as we seem to do of late............calls for DC's head to roll would be deafening |
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Post by irishrover on Oct 18, 2016 21:50:45 GMT
Just a small point but we are playing 3 games in 8 days so part of the changes may have been to account for that as well. My view of DC is that;
a)He seems to see it very much as a squad game and that ideas of your 'best XI' as somewhat old fashioned. b)He is utterly obsessed with fitness and having fresh legs and a strong bench, which might well mean that our comebacks are not a statistical anomaly but a function of how we are set up to play. c)He likes to keep his players permanently on their toes - no one seems guaranteed a spot in the starting lineup. d)We seem to win quite a few more than we lose with this approach so on the whole I think he probably knows exactly what he's doing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2016 21:57:31 GMT
I'd sooner have an uphill struggle, than score an early goal and end up losing. Or grab a goal and defend, as we had years of, which was dull and unambitious. As our ambition and self-belief was compromised, we sank. Okay, let's try and be kind to Kwood Gas and his nonsense whining, when this is the best we've had in I don't know how long. I don't understand it: ring the changes, team takes 30 mins to settle, go a goal down, tweak it, and grab points. It would be preferable to hit it from the start, but this is working. It is also hugely more entertaining and successful than what we had before, with its softly-softly v Torquay or whoever. We just took a point away at a team that's been two divisions above us for the past two years. I don't understand it, but it works. |
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Post by tauntongas on Oct 18, 2016 22:08:34 GMT
Just a small point but we are playing 3 games in 8 days so part of the changes may have been to account for that as well. My view of DC is that;
a)He seems to see it very much as a squad game and that ideas of your 'best XI' as somewhat old fashioned. b)He is utterly obsessed with fitness and having fresh legs and a strong bench, which might well mean that our comebacks are not a statistical anomaly but a function of how we are set up to play. c)He likes to keep his players permanently on their toes - no one seems guaranteed a spot in the starting lineup. d)We seem to win quite a few more than we lose with this approach so on the whole I think he probably knows exactly what he's doing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2016 22:09:58 GMT
I'd sooner have an uphill struggle, than score an early goal and end up losing. Or grab a goal and defend, as we had years of, which was dull and unambitious. As our ambition and self-belief was compromised, we sank. Okay, let's try and be kind to Kwood Gas and his nonsense whining, when this is the best we've had in I don't know how long. I don't understand it: ring the changes, team takes 30 mins to settle, go a goal down, tweak it, and grab points. It would be preferable to hit it from the start, but this is working. It is also hugely more entertaining and successful than what we had before, with its softly-softly v Torquay or whoever. We just took a point away at a team that's been two divisions above us for the past two years. I don't understand it, but it works. I thought Kingswood's thrust was that we could maybe think about sorting out the defence and still come on strong as the 2nd half develops? Was it Ward or Graydoom who went 1-0 down to Torquay so took the centre forward off and brought on a defender. Based on that, I'll take the DC method of giving the opposition a 1 goal lead but keeping the attackers on the field |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2016 22:25:34 GMT
Or grab a goal and defend, as we had years of, which was dull and unambitious. As our ambition and self-belief was compromised, we sank. Okay, let's try and be kind to Kwood Gas and his nonsense whining, when this is the best we've had in I don't know how long. I don't understand it: ring the changes, team takes 30 mins to settle, go a goal down, tweak it, and grab points. It would be preferable to hit it from the start, but this is working. It is also hugely more entertaining and successful than what we had before, with its softly-softly v Torquay or whoever. We just took a point away at a team that's been two divisions above us for the past two years. I don't understand it, but it works. I thought Kingswood's thrust was that we could maybe think about sorting out the defence and still come on strong as the 2nd half develops? Was it Ward or Graydoom who went 1-0 down to Torquay so took the centre forward off and brought on a defender. Based on that, I'll take the DC method of giving the opposition a 1 goal lead but keeping the attackers on the field I don't know what his point is, beyond wanting to moan. The closest I can get is that team changes seem baffling, and that the going behind thing might be related to that. Whatever, we now seem to set out to win over 90+ minutes, with 90+ minutes in which to do it, and a willingness to think he may not have got it right from the start. That's streets ahead of setting out to contain whoever it is this week and heaven forfend he might not have got it right from the start and be perfect every time. We've had a lot of that. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2016 22:30:50 GMT
I find the extent of the changes baffling at times, including tonight, and I find our tendency to concede first a bit worrying as well.
But Darrell Clarke has earned the right to do it his way. He's been considerably more successful doing it his way than anyone else has in recent years.
He's not beyond criticism, but let's wait til after the game before laying into him. More often than not, there's not much to moan about by the end.
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Post by mrbluesky on Oct 18, 2016 22:54:46 GMT
I find the extent of the changes baffling at times, including tonight, and I find our tendency to concede first a bit worrying as well. But Darrell Clarke has earned the right to do it his way. He's been considerably more successful doing it his way than anyone else has in recent years. He's not beyond criticism, but let's wait til after the game before laying into him. More often than not, there's not much to moan about by the end. i might be wrong but i have a feeling some players will be pushed out of the squad rotation as the season goes on and that the manager will rely on one formation more often[4-4-2]. it must be a challenge for dc as we have arguably 25 players who could start without looking out of place in league 1 which is weird for rovers imo |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 9:44:29 GMT
But Darrell Clarke has earned the right to do it his way. He's been considerably more successful doing it his way than anyone else has in recent years... More often than not, there's not much to moan about by the end. Sychophancy that. Can't you see he's taking us backwards? The record shows season on season decline: 2014-2015 finished 2nd, 2015-2016 finished 3rd, 2016-2017 sitting 10th. FACT. |
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