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Post by eppinggas on Oct 17, 2016 11:47:41 GMT
Thanks Steve. Couple of comments. Sinclair: I think you are way too harsh. He had a real battle yesterday with an (as usual) physical Gillingham side. He got stuck in where Lines and Colkett feared to tread. Breaking up play, winning tackles and then laying it off side-ways/backwards. That's his job! Best move of a poor first half ended with a great Sincs run and a shot that flashed past the wrong side of the post (couldn't see from the SW Stand how close it was). He is the heartbeat of Bristol Rovers FC. Gaffney: I would conclude that he is planning his future for the over-50's walking football. Way off the pace. He is just not the same player he was before that injury he got around March last year. Won hardly anything in the air. He is 'big' so we revert back to the hoofball which DOES NOT WORK. Harrison caused far more damage in the air and has great pace. And then scored. I guess the only reason for Harrison not to start is that maybe he needed a bit of a rest. Formation: I hate 5-3-2. It's defensive. Too cautious. We are not on the front foot and teams exploit that. But looks like we then tire our opponents out - go back to 4-4-2 - and win. Bit like the old Ali rope-a-dope trick. It works - so I guess you can't knock it. Crowd: 9500. 4 of which I twisted arms to get them down and take advantage of with the family ticket £30. They will be back. UTG. When Gaffney plays he is very often alone upfront and no one is there when he holds the ball up and he then plays wider to try and get the ball. I think it's unfair to say what you do. He is not getting any service and is working his nads off to try and create a chance. I think he either hit the post or came close. He will come good, mark my words on this. Right now and for some unknown reason, it seems no one is running close to him so he has no one to flick onto or one 2 with. He is coming wide out of sheer frustration. Leadbitter is so lacking in confidence that you can nearly smell the fear. He is our biggest player yet is never in the box for corners. That says a lot to me. He needs to rebuild his confidence as he is not going into tackles fully and can't get rid of the ball quick enough. He was our worst player on Saturday in my opinion. We are, in effect, carrying him. We had very little play down the channels and it was a midfield slugfest. Worst first half I've seen at home this season and against a team who had nothing but physicality to offer. The linesman running the line by the West stand bottled a blatant goalkeeper handball and then this got Matty booked for asking why he didn't give it. The resultant free kick was 5 yards outside the box so what was that all about ? Poor game with only Lines standing out for me. Hartley is getting better too and always a danger with free kicks and corners. Anyway. We still win after playing badly, that brings some deja vu. Is it going to happen again ? 1 point off of play off and 5 from autos and when we are not yet firing well UtFG A fair defence of Gaffers. But I guess we can agree that Rovers looked so much better when Harrison came on. Before that - we never looked like scoring. Re: Lino in front of the West Stand. He also let off Hartley and Lockyer who in separate incidents both had their hands on Dack's shirt and pulled him back. Both potentially worthy of a booking. He didn't even give a foul...
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Post by Peter Parker on Oct 17, 2016 12:13:14 GMT
the constant match after match snipes aimed at sinclair by the op leaves a bad taste in my mouth to be honest. sinclair subdued a talented player yesterday and clearly carries out dc"s instructions to the letter. i could probably name 50 players from the highest level down that have done the job hes doing for us now and just play the simple pass when on the ball from nobby stiles to frankie prince to nicky butt and so many more. It's Steve's opinion. At least his is reasoned and he explains his view
I don't agree with Steve on his obsession with Hartley being Captain. I don't see what difference it makes. The arm band won't make him more vocal, or a better organiser
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 14:48:15 GMT
Thanks Steve. Couple of comments. Sinclair: I think you are way too harsh. He had a real battle yesterday with an (as usual) physical Gillingham side. He got stuck in where Lines and Colkett feared to tread. Breaking up play, winning tackles and then laying it off side-ways/backwards. That's his job! Best move of a poor first half ended with a great Sincs run and a shot that flashed past the wrong side of the post (couldn't see from the SW Stand how close it was). He is the heartbeat of Bristol Rovers FC. Gaffney: I would conclude that he is planning his future for the over-50's walking football. Way off the pace. He is just not the same player he was before that injury he got around March last year. Won hardly anything in the air. He is 'big' so we revert back to the hoofball which DOES NOT WORK. Harrison caused far more damage in the air and has great pace. And then scored. I guess the only reason for Harrison not to start is that maybe he needed a bit of a rest. Formation: I hate 5-3-2. It's defensive. Too cautious. We are not on the front foot and teams exploit that. But looks like we then tire our opponents out - go back to 4-4-2 - and win. Bit like the old Ali rope-a-dope trick. It works - so I guess you can't knock it. Crowd: 9500. 4 of which I twisted arms to get them down and take advantage of with the family ticket £30. They will be back. UTG. When Gaffney plays he is very often alone upfront and no one is there when he holds the ball up and he then plays wider to try and get the ball. I think it's unfair to say what you do. He is not getting any service and is working his nads off to try and create a chance. I think he either hit the post or came close. He will come good, mark my words on this. Right now and for some unknown reason, it seems no one is running close to him so he has no one to flick onto or one 2 with. He is coming wide out of sheer frustration. Leadbitter is so lacking in confidence that you can nearly smell the fear. He is our biggest player yet is never in the box for corners. That says a lot to me. He needs to rebuild his confidence as he is not going into tackles fully and can't get rid of the ball quick enough. He was our worst player on Saturday in my opinion. We are, in effect, carrying him. We had very little play down the channels and it was a midfield slugfest. Worst first half I've seen at home this season and against a team who had nothing but physicality to offer. The linesman running the line by the West stand bottled a blatant goalkeeper handball and then this got Matty booked for asking why he didn't give it. The resultant free kick was 5 yards outside the box so what was that all about ? Poor game with only Lines standing out for me. Hartley is getting better too and always a danger with free kicks and corners. Anyway. We still win after playing badly, that brings some deja vu. Is it going to happen again ? 1 point off of play off and 5 from autos and when we are not yet firing well UtFG Steve,the thing I think you are missing which doesn't help Gaffney is his predeliction for getting into a trial of strength with opposing defenders which stops him doing anything with the ball when he gets it or doesn't allow him to jump to win it in the air.Watch him next game and compare how Harrison goes to meet the ball and avoids the unnecessary conflict with the opposition
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Post by stevek192 on Oct 17, 2016 15:37:04 GMT
Padstow, As you know ability in the air is not only about size but about timing and I think it is true to say that Matty Taylor is better in the air than Gaffney as well as Ellis and both are about timing their leap and getting to the ball first . I agree with what you say about him going into a battle of strength. Good point.
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Post by mrbluesky on Oct 18, 2016 0:03:16 GMT
the op dosnt like sinclair and explains to us every week that although he appeared to have a good game he was in fact ruining other players performances. the op wants to play a pressing game and just cant fathom out how the manager has managed without using his beloved high pressure pressing tactic and got 2 promotions without it? the op wants all new players including loans to play straight away,why is james clarke and leadbitter playing,he thinks it should be connor roberts and clarke-salter,surely it wouldnt harm the fantastic spirit built up so carefully by are manager if we just chucked out those boring players that got us where we are? thank god dc isnt listening to the op
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Post by a more piratey game on Oct 18, 2016 0:43:03 GMT
the op dosnt like sinclair and explains to us every week that although he appeared to have a good game he was in fact ruining other players performances. the op wants to play a pressing game and just cant fathom out how the manager has managed without using his beloved high pressure pressing tactic and got 2 promotions without it? the op wants all new players including loans to play straight away,why is james clarke and leadbitter playing,he thinks it should be connor roberts and clarke-salter,surely it wouldnt harm the fantastic spirit built up so carefully by are manager if we just chucked out those boring players that got us where we are? thank god dc isnt listening to the op What a pointless post
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2016 6:50:45 GMT
the op dosnt like sinclair and explains to us every week that although he appeared to have a good game he was in fact ruining other players performances. the op wants to play a pressing game and just cant fathom out how the manager has managed without using his beloved high pressure pressing tactic and got 2 promotions without it? the op wants all new players including loans to play straight away,why is james clarke and leadbitter playing,he thinks it should be connor roberts and clarke-salter,surely it wouldnt harm the fantastic spirit built up so carefully by are manager if we just chucked out those boring players that got us where we are? thank god dc isnt listening to the op What a pointless post Its not, its a relevant discussion. Steve does repeat a lot of the same arguments which is based on what he sees, and his reports are usually pretty good. Its just they don't always tally with what the rest of us see. This is normal.
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Post by a more piratey game on Oct 18, 2016 7:03:05 GMT
Its not, its a relevant discussion. Steve does repeat a lot of the same arguments which is based on what he sees, and his reports are usually pretty good. Its just they don't always tally with what the rest of us see. This is normal. 'Thank god dc isn't listening' plus a few things aimed at 'the op' i see no merit in those constructions
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2016 7:05:07 GMT
Its not, its a relevant discussion. Steve does repeat a lot of the same arguments which is based on what he sees, and his reports are usually pretty good. Its just they don't always tally with what the rest of us see. This is normal. 'Thank god dc isn't listening' plus a few things aimed at 'the op' i see no merit in those constructions Fair enough.
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Post by a more piratey game on Oct 18, 2016 7:27:20 GMT
Padstow, I agree with what you say about him going into a battle of strength. Good point. Agree. I had seen that but not 'made sense of it' like Padstow has
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Post by tanksfull on Oct 18, 2016 8:28:36 GMT
Padstow, I agree with what you say about him going into a battle of strength. Good point. Agree. I had seen that but not 'made sense of it' like Padstow has Matt Harrold was very similar to Rory Gaffney but the previous forward who showed that type of strength was completely different. Rickie Lambert did it through positioning himself and then being impossible to move; very subtle differences but an amazingly different outcome. Yes Rickie Lambert had many extra attributes but on that one single point they were not dissimilar, but totally different.
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Post by mrbluesky on Oct 18, 2016 8:28:51 GMT
the op dosnt like sinclair and explains to us every week that although he appeared to have a good game he was in fact ruining other players performances. the op wants to play a pressing game and just cant fathom out how the manager has managed without using his beloved high pressure pressing tactic and got 2 promotions without it? the op wants all new players including loans to play straight away,why is james clarke and leadbitter playing,he thinks it should be connor roberts and clarke-salter,surely it wouldnt harm the fantastic spirit built up so carefully by are manager if we just chucked out those boring players that got us where we are? thank god dc isnt listening to the op What a pointless post so you think if i dont agree with the op i should just not post or say "thanks for the report steve even though i agree with none of it" im not a sycophant so its difficult for me to follow that line
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Post by Cheshiregas on Oct 18, 2016 8:39:56 GMT
Steve goes to every game and sees things from his perspective and position in the ground. Of course he has views on players and how they play. I for one am grateful for his reports.
That being said others see it from a different perspective (mrbluesky) and/or knowledge base of football (Padstow). Their comments are equally valid but give us a different viewpoint. As long as we have respect for each others views it is debate and that is to be welcomed. One of my best friends' sons works with the youth teams at Swansea. When he goes to games with his son he says that his perspective is on a different level. They also enjoy their football in different ways, action vs tactics, individuals vs team play and so on. That's what football is about and long may it remain so.
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Post by canberragas on Oct 18, 2016 10:00:59 GMT
lt is all about respect for others opinions and its great to get lots of reports, especially when you haven't been to the match. In that spirit these are my views based on all home games, plus Scunthorpe, sSeffield United and Northampton. We are a good team, sometimes a very good team -Sheffield United and second half at Northampton. We are fitter than other teams, but Boateng may be an exception as he fades badly. We have fantastic team spirit and I can't help thinking that is because DC plays all the squad. On individual players - I start with the disappointments: Leadbitter has been poor, he only has one idea, to beat his player with pace and the best defenders have him sorted - Roberts looked very solid against Northampton;Bodin was on fire at the end of this season, but has been poor this, rarely beating his man and not getting his shots on target. On the pluses: I start with someone we have only seen once, Clarke-Salter, who oozed class at Sheffield United, personally i would have him in even if it meant dropping Lockyer, who has been fairly solid, no more; Lines has been outstanding, the goal on Saturday may end up goal of the season; Colkett is another asset, he is very good on the ball, always looks for a man and is the best dead ball striker we have -I'd certainly have him rather than Lines taking the corners; Boateng is the enigma, the best at beating a man and again a good distributor of the ball, but he doesn't seem to use his physical strength enough and tends to drift out of the game, still I'd like to see us start with him Lines and Colkett in midfield; if we did start those three the choice would then be between Sinclair, who has held his own in this League, or Moore, my preferred choice, or Montana, depending on the team we are playing; Roos has been excellent; now we come to the biggest bone of contention, Harrison or Gaffney, here I'm a strong Gaffney man, some have said he gets involved with the centre halfs too much, but surely that is his job, Harrison cant do that, witness the Bolton match, where we needed someone physical to compete against a very physical team; i finish with the jewel. Taylor will score 20 plus again - priceless. i don't think there is anything to fear in this League, the best team I saw was Rochdale, which I said at the time, so I did get that right. Onwards and upwards.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2016 21:17:17 GMT
In the last 6 league games we've scored 6 goals after the 80th minute, gaining us 9 extra league points (I think) than we would have had. Bradford, Swindon, Northampton & Gillingham all suffering at the hands of our never say die attitude and immense fitness levels! Awesome. Update the stats, Dude, you're now the official chalk-board guy. 'StattoLebowski'.
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Post by irishrover on Oct 18, 2016 22:28:56 GMT
Just to add that I also thought Sinclair played very well on Saturday and I'm not normally one of the big Sinclair fans - I can see his limitations as a player quite clearly. But, on Saturday I thought he was terrific. I agree with the people who said that he did an excellent job on Dacks. But, I would agree he did a bit more than that - he adapted and in doing so tilted the game in our favour somewhat. The first 15 minutes I thought we weren't at the races at all and Dacks was dictating the game. Now I think that we slightly changed our shape at that point but more importantly Sinclair started to get in much tighter on Dacks and generally throw his weight around in midfield. From that point onwards we had more energy (although didn't play very well up to halftime) and they didn't have another period on top like that in the game. It was the fact that he adapted to the challenge that impressed me most and inserted energy into the team which is his main asset and shouldn't be under appreciated. I'm always doubtful of Sinclair but every time he has the bar raised on him he seems to meet the challenge. I grant that he isn't always the right player for the situation or the opponent - but on Saturday I thought he absolutely was.
I quite enjoyed the whole game though - an old fashioned lower league tussle with a slight edge to it.
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Post by DudeLebowski on Oct 18, 2016 23:47:22 GMT
In the last 7 league games we've scored 8 goals after the 80th minute, gaining us 10 extra league points (I think) than we would have had.
Bradford, Swindon, Northampton, Gillingham & MK Dons all suffering at the hands of our never say die attitude and immense fitness levels!
Awesome.
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Post by Peter Parker on Oct 19, 2016 7:10:57 GMT
What is it the Sh*t say "Always Believe"
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Oct 19, 2016 7:34:40 GMT
I have never seen so much bad body language after conceding! They were totally beaten. No doubt that the squad is physically fit, but I think our individual and collective mental toughness is the differentiator that helps us to overcome setbacks. I'm not sure how you create mental toughness, maintain it or improve it, but I know that DC has referred to it several times since he's been in charge e.g. the way the team away at Grimsby put Matt Taylor's missed penalty behind them to go on and win the game. I can't remember who said it recently on the radio, but an ex-player tried to explain mental attitude with reference to the difference in boat race crews. Both crews have put in about the same massive effort, but whilst the losers show their exhaustion, the winners look as though they could happily race again. It's in the mind! The brain's reward system definitely. They're rewarded for their efforts, which releases more dopamine and they become addicted to the feel-good factor.
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Post by stevek192 on Oct 19, 2016 10:56:46 GMT
MrBluesky Have I said you should not post your views? Personal view is exactly that. I have never said that the way I like football played is right..its just my personal view. I do like Sinclair and his attitude but IMO other players play better together..just an opinion. Like to see other peoples view whether or not they agree with my report. Keep them coming mrbluesky its what football is all about.
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