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Aug 10, 2016 21:44:36 GMT
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Post by Nailsea Gas on Aug 10, 2016 21:44:36 GMT
What a farce this is. seeding all the big teams against smaller clubs. Odds stacked against anyone from div 1 or 2
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Aug 10, 2016 21:45:23 GMT
Post by Angas on Aug 10, 2016 21:45:23 GMT
Sky text seems to have gone a bit haywire?
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CHELSEA v BRISTOL ROVERS/BRISTOL CITY
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SCUNTHORPE v CARDIFF/BRISTOL CITY
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Aug 10, 2016 21:47:48 GMT
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Post by crater on Aug 10, 2016 21:47:48 GMT
Wael back at Chelsea?
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Aug 10, 2016 21:49:01 GMT
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Post by Nailsea Gas on Aug 10, 2016 21:49:01 GMT
Sky text seems to have gone a bit haywire? 22:40 CHELSEA v BRISTOL ROVERS/BRISTOL CITY 22:38 SCUNTHORPE v CARDIFF/BRISTOLCITY we win we get Chelsea s**t get Scunthorpe. We lose s**t get Chelsea |
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Aug 10, 2016 21:51:45 GMT
Post by Angas on Aug 10, 2016 21:51:45 GMT
Sky text seems to have gone a bit haywire? 22:40 CHELSEA v BRISTOL ROVERS/BRISTOL CITY 22:38 SCUNTHORPE v CARDIFF/BRISTOLCITY we win we get Chelsea s*** get Scunthorpe. We lose s*** get Chelsea Oh right, it's because of the seeding. Thanks. Maybe I should have watched on tv  |
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Post by kwoodgas on Aug 10, 2016 21:56:28 GMT
we win we get Chelsea s*** get Scunthorpe. We lose s*** get Chelsea Oh right, it's because of the seeding. Thanks. Maybe I should have watched on tv Pat on the back for grasping what was going on so quickly! Some of the meltdown on twitter at the moment is hillarious, you'd think it was the sort of equation you'd get in a Cambridge entrance exam! |
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Aug 10, 2016 22:06:13 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2016 22:06:13 GMT
Its silly though. Why don't City go to Scunthorpe and the winner of our game go to Chelsea?
I understand its because of the seeding, but I'm failing to understand the reason for it.
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Aug 10, 2016 22:28:11 GMT
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Post by kwoodgas on Aug 10, 2016 22:28:11 GMT
Its silly though. Why don't City go to Scunthorpe and the winner of our game go to Chelsea? I understand its because of the seeding, but I'm failing to understand the reason for it. I don't know whether City would rather be seeded and get on paper an easier tie or be unseeded and get a potential glamour tie; but either way whether they're seeded or not should be based on the criteria of which teams are seeded (presumably last season's league positions); and this shouldn't be effected by the fact us and Cardiff are playing after the draw. I have no idea why people are struggling to grasp this, the only way it could've been improved was by doing the draw this time tomorrow! |
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Post by rossinio79 on Aug 10, 2016 22:29:11 GMT
just more unnecessary meddling with a format which was not broken
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Aug 10, 2016 23:53:28 GMT
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Post by sw18gas on Aug 10, 2016 23:53:28 GMT
Its silly though. Why don't City go to Scunthorpe and the winner of our game go to Chelsea? I understand its because of the seeding, but I'm failing to understand the reason for it. I don't know whether City would rather be seeded and get on paper an easier tie or be unseeded and get a potential glamour tie; but either way whether they're seeded or not should be based on the criteria of which teams are seeded (presumably last season's league positions); and this shouldn't be effected by the fact us and Cardiff are playing after the draw. I have no idea why people are struggling to grasp this, the only way it could've been improved was by doing the draw this time tomorrow! I am guessing that whether City were seeded or not also depended on the other results tonight. For example, if QPR had gone out, they'd have been seeded come what may (and someone else would be waiting to find out if they are going to Scunthorpe or Chelsea). It's thus a fluke that the two Bristol clubs are in this weird situation. It does add a bit of spice though... |
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Aug 11, 2016 5:29:46 GMT
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Post by Peter Parker on Aug 11, 2016 5:29:46 GMT
I thought the league cup had been seeded for the past few years anyway.
But putting on a game on TV on the Thursday has just highlighted the stupidity of doing the draw before all the ties were completed given tge straight ko format
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Aug 11, 2016 10:59:26 GMT
Frankly it's bloody bizarre if you look at tennis they are always seeded but if the top seed goes out in the first round they don't then reseed the whole bloody draw. Absolute cobblers from an organisation fast becoming a joke. Who is there left to look after the football league clubs because it obviously isn't the Football League board.
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Aug 11, 2016 12:07:51 GMT
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Post by kwoodgas on Aug 11, 2016 12:07:51 GMT
Frankly it's bloody bizarre if you look at tennis they are always seeded but if the top seed goes out in the first round they don't then reseed the whole bloody draw. Absolute cobblers from an organisation fast becoming a joke. Who is there left to look after the football league clubs because it obviously isn't the Football League board. But no seed has gone out, they just haven't played. |
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Aug 11, 2016 13:51:30 GMT
Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 11, 2016 13:51:30 GMT
Frankly it's bloody bizarre if you look at tennis they are always seeded but if the top seed goes out in the first round they don't then reseed the whole bloody draw. Absolute cobblers from an organisation fast becoming a joke. Who is there left to look after the football league clubs because it obviously isn't the Football League board. But no seed has gone out, they just haven't played. Weren't villa seeded ? They lost to Luton. |
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Post by singupgas on Aug 11, 2016 14:01:03 GMT
The cup is now set up so all the lower leagues play the higher league teams. I guess this is to make it as hard as possible for a league 1 and 2 club to make it very far. It is a joke and the FA should take look at themselves, just a massive bunch of sellouts in hope for final with2 of the following - Man Utd Liverpool, Chelsea and man city, Arsenal.
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Aug 11, 2016 14:27:06 GMT
Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 11, 2016 14:27:06 GMT
The cup is now set up so all the lower leagues play the higher league teams. I guess this is to make it as hard as possible for a league 1 and 2 club to make it very far. It is a joke and the FA should take look at themselves, just a massive bunch of sellouts in hope for final with2 of the following - Man Utd Liverpool, Chelsea and man city, Arsenal. I am just surprised that anyone is shocked by this and this should really give any floating possible attendees of the EFL cup yet another reason to boycott it IMO |
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Aug 11, 2016 14:27:44 GMT
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Aug 11, 2016 14:27:44 GMT
Frankly it's bloody bizarre if you look at tennis they are always seeded but if the top seed goes out in the first round they don't then reseed the whole bloody draw. Absolute cobblers from an organisation fast becoming a joke. Who is there left to look after the football league clubs because it obviously isn't the Football League board. But no seed has gone out, they just haven't played. OK I'll put it simply then. At Wimbledon they make the seedings before the competition not after the first round had completed. Of course the incompetents at the Football League couldn't even manage to do that after the first round and decided to do it during the first round. Little wonder they can't get anyone to sponsor their cup competitions, who would want their name associated with those farces. |
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Aug 11, 2016 14:31:45 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 14:31:45 GMT
Hopeful we can get a win tonight, will be the first one against Cardiff in Bristol since 1967 when James Sailor and Paul 'Pauly' Seagall scored in a 2-1 win over the Bluebirds.
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Aug 11, 2016 20:55:05 GMT
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Post by topman on Aug 11, 2016 20:55:05 GMT
Such is my disgust with the changed format and the FA Premier League and EFL I really would be 'happy' to lose and get back to normality of the league
Mind you that will soon change with the advent of Premier B teams in the football league in the shorter term
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Aug 11, 2016 21:21:27 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 21:21:27 GMT
Such is my disgust with the changed format and the FA Premier League and EFL I really would be 'happy' to lose and get back to normality of the league Mind you that will soon change with the advent of Premier B teams in the football league in the shorter term How disappointing for you then |
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