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Post by toteend on Jul 7, 2014 10:09:02 GMT
Why not? Lets see how serious they are.
Why not approach Bath City and see if they wish to take us on as tenants again which will also help them out. With their money troubles I'm sure they would be delighted to do so.
I'm sure the conference would have no problem as Bath City already belong to them, and the league have already allowed us to play there, so no problem as far as I can see. Capacity wise, its certainly ok for the conference, and if by some fluke we get straight back in the league, the capacity is higher than our league average last season.
We could try for this season if we get our skates on, but if not, why not try for next season, at least it would get Sainsbury's back on track and not allow them the excuse of saying it's the delays that have knackered the whole idea, |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2014 10:12:31 GMT
Twerton isn't fit for league football and doesn't have enough seats.
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Post by PessimistGas on Jul 7, 2014 10:15:57 GMT
Twerton isn't fit for league football and doesn't have enough seats. It would be ideal if it could be brought up to standard. But how about Swindon or Cheltenham (if we haven't p*ssed them off too much after last time)?
I'd have no problem playing a couple of seasons at another ground if it meant rescuing the project.
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toteend
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Post by toteend on Jul 7, 2014 10:18:55 GMT
We're not in the league, and if we cant get it right in the course of a season for potential league 2 football next season, god help us. It does not require a major overhaul, and costs can be adjusted against rental.
I believe last time we were there it was about £300k per annum. That's no more than it costs us to run the Mem now.
As for seats, tough. if it means standing for a season, so what if it gets us the UWE. Initially only allow our fans aged over 60 or disabled to apply for seats initially.
Why would we want go to Swindon or Cheltenham? How many would realistically travel that far? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2014 10:20:30 GMT
We got a nice tent full of seats at the mem, maybe use that ??
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2014 10:25:01 GMT
The rest of the ground isn't up to scratch though, if Rovers were to be promoted this season playing at Twerton could see them not allowed to take up a position in the league see Stevenage 95-96.
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toteend
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Post by toteend on Jul 7, 2014 10:26:36 GMT
Have you been recently? There is very little wrong that could not easily be rectified. But i'm curious, exactly what do you think is wrong with it?
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basel
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Post by basel on Jul 7, 2014 10:38:14 GMT
This sounds like a good idea if Sainsbury's want to get building straight away.
Forest Green Rovers might give a us a temporary home too.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2014 10:46:07 GMT
Admission criteria to the league is ;
Capacity 5,000, seats 500 with the ability to reach 1,000 in its first season (Twerton has 1,006 seats). By May 1st of it's first season however the club must have a capacity of 5,000 with 1,000 seats and the ability to reach 2,000. Twerton would struggle to get 2,000 seats in even with a temporary stand.
Floodlights should be OK.
CCTV is needed which, as of my last trip to Twerton in April wasn't in place.
A secure boundary wall of at least 2.2m needs to be in place meaning a wall would need built at the Bath End.
Spectator Standing areas behind the goal need to be terraced which, could cause issues again with the Bath End.
Computerised monitoring systems would have to be fitted on all turnstyles.
Adequate toilet facilities for both sexes which, I'm not sure is the case on The Pop any more (if it ever was).
Emergency lighting needs to be in place, which there isn't at the moment.
The big one for me is the disabled facilities are non-existant.
40 seats in the mainstand must be held for directors.
Changing rooms must be 18 square metres with 6 shower units or baths, two urinals, 2 basins and a WC. Is this the case? I'm not sure.
Minimum of 20 seats with desktops and 10 with powerpoints for the press, there's 6 maybe 7 at Twerton.
The shortest pitch run off allowed in the league is 2.25m, that's not the case at certain bits of Twerton.
The playing surface must be "flat and free from surface depression and excessive undulations". Twerton is not flat. The slope should not exceede 1:41 in any direction, I think it may.
But bar that.
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Post by Westcountry Gas on Jul 7, 2014 11:01:20 GMT
We're not in the league, and if we cant get it right in the course of a season for potential league 2 football next season, god help us. It does not require a major overhaul, and costs can be adjusted against rental.
I believe last time we were there it was about £300k per annum. That's no more than it costs us to run the Mem now.
As for seats, tough. if it means standing for a season, so what if it gets us the UWE. Initially only allow our fans aged over 60 or disabled to apply for seats initially.
Why would we want go to Swindon or Cheltenham? How many would realistically travel that far? 20 years ago we were paying £300k rent?! Fast forward 20 years and we were only charging Bristol RFC £200k rent? Surely we couldn't have been paying that much to play in Bath. Back to the original idea, if UWE would open up for the 2016/2017 season, then one season at Twerton followed by one season elsewhere if we got promoted (massive ask and unlikely to happen) at somewhere like Yeovil, Swindon or Cheltenham would be an option. |
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Post by ashperry83 on Jul 7, 2014 11:06:47 GMT
It would be a frigging disaster to leave the Mem and not move directly to the UWE. There is no way on Earth I would trust this board with the job of building our new stadium whilst we are effectively homeless.
If it went completely tits up we would have some cash in the bank but would have no asset whatsoever.
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Post by basel on Jul 7, 2014 11:20:01 GMT
Twerton isn't fit for league football and doesn't have enough seats. It would be ideal if it could be brought up to standard. But how about Swindon or Cheltenham (if we haven't p*ssed them off too much after last time)?
I'd have no problem playing a couple of seasons at another ground if it meant rescuing the project.
Gloucester City 'Tigers' are I think still ground sharing with N'ham Pess. Forest Green Rovers might work out perhaps. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2014 11:23:32 GMT
It would be ideal if it could be brought up to standard. But how about Swindon or Cheltenham (if we haven't p*ssed them off too much after last time)?
I'd have no problem playing a couple of seasons at another ground if it meant rescuing the project.
Gloucester City 'Tigers' are I think still ground sharing with N'ham Pess. Forest Green Rovers might work out perhaps. Yep. Hopefully Gloucester will be starting work on Meadow Park soon! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2014 11:29:24 GMT
Admission criteria to the league is ; Capacity 5,000, seats 500 with the ability to reach 1,000 in its first season (Twerton has 1,006 seats). By May 1st of it's first season however the club must have a capacity of 5,000 with 1,000 seats and the ability to reach 2,000. Twerton would struggle to get 2,000 seats in even with a temporary stand. Floodlights should be OK. CCTV is needed which, as of my last trip to Twerton in April wasn't in place. A secure boundary wall of at least 2.2m needs to be in place meaning a wall would need built at the Bath End. Spectator Standing areas behind the goal need to be terraced which, could cause issues again with the Bath End. Computerised monitoring systems would have to be fitted on all turnstyles. Adequate toilet facilities for both sexes which, I'm not sure is the case on The Pop any more (if it ever was). Emergency lighting needs to be in place, which there isn't at the moment. The big one for me is the disabled facilities are non-existant. 40 seats in the mainstand must be held for directors. Changing rooms must be 18 square metres with 6 shower units or baths, two urinals, 2 basins and a WC. Is this the case? I'm not sure. Minimum of 20 seats with desktops and 10 with powerpoints for the press, there's 6 maybe 7 at Twerton. The shortest pitch run off allowed in the league is 2.25m, that's not the case at certain bits of Twerton. The playing surface must be "flat and free from surface depression and excessive undulations". Twerton is not flat. The slope should not exceede 1:41 in any direction, I think it may. But bar that. Since when did the mem have "Computerised monitoring systems would have to be fitted on all turnstyles. " ?? bloke with a empty cash box and pen more like it  and when we get promoted back to the league will we have to have them fitted as well meet the above criteria ?? |
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Post by basel on Jul 7, 2014 11:32:57 GMT
Gloucester City 'Tigers' are I think still ground sharing with N'ham Pess. Forest Green Rovers might work out perhaps. Yep. Hopefully Gloucester will be starting work on Meadow Park soon! Hear hear Chewbacca! I would love to see em back in Gloucester and after a while challenging for a place in the FL. A "Golden Valley" derby v N'ham in the FL would be special. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2014 11:35:10 GMT
Admission criteria to the league is ; Capacity 5,000, seats 500 with the ability to reach 1,000 in its first season (Twerton has 1,006 seats). By May 1st of it's first season however the club must have a capacity of 5,000 with 1,000 seats and the ability to reach 2,000. Twerton would struggle to get 2,000 seats in even with a temporary stand. Floodlights should be OK. CCTV is needed which, as of my last trip to Twerton in April wasn't in place. A secure boundary wall of at least 2.2m needs to be in place meaning a wall would need built at the Bath End. Spectator Standing areas behind the goal need to be terraced which, could cause issues again with the Bath End. Computerised monitoring systems would have to be fitted on all turnstyles. Adequate toilet facilities for both sexes which, I'm not sure is the case on The Pop any more (if it ever was). Emergency lighting needs to be in place, which there isn't at the moment. The big one for me is the disabled facilities are non-existant. 40 seats in the mainstand must be held for directors. Changing rooms must be 18 square metres with 6 shower units or baths, two urinals, 2 basins and a WC. Is this the case? I'm not sure. Minimum of 20 seats with desktops and 10 with powerpoints for the press, there's 6 maybe 7 at Twerton. The shortest pitch run off allowed in the league is 2.25m, that's not the case at certain bits of Twerton. The playing surface must be "flat and free from surface depression and excessive undulations". Twerton is not flat. The slope should not exceede 1:41 in any direction, I think it may. But bar that. Since when did the mem have "Computerised monitoring systems would have to be fitted on all turnstyles. " ?? bloke with a empty cash box and pen more like it and when we get promoted back to the league will we have to have them fitted as well meet the above criteria ?? I believe the Mem has had computerised turnstyles for a number of years, it just counts the rotations of the turnstyles. It's a lot less technological than it sounds. |
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Post by RG2 Gas on Jul 7, 2014 11:40:17 GMT
Why not? Lets see how serious they are.
Why not approach Bath City and see if they wish to take us on as tenants again which will also help them out. With their money troubles I'm sure they would be delighted to do so.
I'm sure the conference would have no problem as Bath City already belong to them, and the league have already allowed us to play there, so no problem as far as I can see. Capacity wise, its certainly ok for the conference, and if by some fluke we get straight back in the league, the capacity is higher than our league average last season.
We could try for this season if we get our skates on, but if not, why not try for next season, at least it would get Sainsbury's back on track and not allow them the excuse of saying it's the delays that have knackered the whole idea, You know what, that would be a cracking idea! Maybe too late for this season to find a new venue, but we could commit to leave at the end of this season and play ONE season away from Bristol, assuming we start the UWE build this year. Hopefully that will be a season in L2 if we can get immediate promotion but I'd be happy to play a year at Bath or FGR or Yeovil or wherever if we KNEW the UWE was funded, half built and about to be opened in a few months. Like others have said it will be dependent on finding an appropriate venue at an appropriate price for a season (Clevedon anyone?) and might be incentive needed for Sainsbury's to go ahead. Personally I'd love another season at Twerton if that could be worked out AND the UWE awaited at the end of the season - bloody hate the Mem, very few happy memories there, whereas Twerton was my 'halcyon days' of watching the Gas.
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Post by The Concept on Jul 7, 2014 11:42:27 GMT
I think it's a great idea and wouldn't mind going to Twerton this coming season.
Should we win promotion back to the league, at the first attempt, let's worry about that if and when it happens.
As suggested, there are other options should Twerton not be up to league standard.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2014 11:44:39 GMT
FYI The Hand Stadium is so far off being League standard it's an absolute joke someone has even mentioned it.
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Post by jozer on Jul 7, 2014 11:50:30 GMT
What have Football League standards got to do with anything?
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