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Post by The Concept on Mar 9, 2016 13:05:21 GMT
Mokum,
Out of interest, what was the attraction of coming to see a fourth level English football match? Do any of your group have any connections with Bristol Rovers FC, or are you just visiting the west of England and wanted to take in a game somewhere?
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Post by mokum on Mar 9, 2016 16:28:05 GMT
Basically we don't like the modern Football and like the old traditional atmosphere with a stadium being located still in a neighborhood and not on an industrial area. We have moved with Ajax a long time ago from a stadium with a capacity of 20,000 to a stadium of 50,000 but at the same time lost a part of our identity. For us Bristol Rovers appeared to us as a traditional Football club where we can still enjoy Football the way it should have stayed as well in the higher leagues.
I know Bristol Rovers is owed by a foreign owner as well now and you will move to a new stadium so I really hope you will manage to maintain your identity as a club!
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Post by dido on Mar 9, 2016 18:19:23 GMT
Mokum, if you look at the post 'Don's Match Highlights', the first 3 goals are scored at the South Stand End where you have tickets. Rovers players go that side to celebrate.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2016 18:38:38 GMT
Basically we don't like the modern Football and like the old traditional atmosphere with a stadium being located still in a neighborhood and not on an industrial area. We have moved with Ajax a long time ago from a stadium with a capacity of 20,000 to a stadium of 50,000 but at the same time lost a part of our identity. For us Bristol Rovers appeared to us as a traditional Football club where we can still enjoy Football the way it should have stayed as well in the higher leagues. I know Bristol Rovers is owed by a foreign owner as well now and you will move to a new stadium so I really hope you will manage to maintain your identity as a club! That's interesting,i think that part of the reason for lack of atmosphere in a lot of English grounds is all seater stadiums,sounds like Ajax is the same ?,as you say better to stay in the city than move to the outskirts. When you were able to gather on the terraces with your mates and sing it was better,this is still possible at Rovers,some people want to move to a new all seater stadium,i don't think that they realise that the atmosphere will not be as good. The other problem in England is the average age of supporters here,when I started going to Rovers in the late 60s there were a lot of young people ( baby boom generation) now the average age is much older,I think that this will surprise you when you come here. I agree with what a few people have said already that the Vic is the place for you to visit for a drink before and after the game,I hope that you have a good time and that you will want to come back.
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Post by badbloodash on Mar 9, 2016 18:51:15 GMT
Basically we don't like the modern Football and like the old traditional atmosphere with a stadium being located still in a neighborhood and not on an industrial area. We have moved with Ajax a long time ago from a stadium with a capacity of 20,000 to a stadium of 50,000 but at the same time lost a part of our identity. For us Bristol Rovers appeared to us as a traditional Football club where we can still enjoy Football the way it should have stayed as well in the higher leagues. I know Bristol Rovers is owed by a foreign owner as well now and you will move to a new stadium so I really hope you will manage to maintain your identity as a club! That's interesting,i think that part of the reason for lack of atmosphere in a lot of English grounds is all seater stadiums,sounds like Ajax is the same ?,as you say better to stay in the city than move to the outskirts. When you were able to gather on the terraces with your mates and sing it was better,this is still possible at Rovers,some people want to move to a new all seater stadium,i don't think that they realise that the atmosphere will not be as good. The other problem in England is the average age of supporters here,when I started going to Rovers in the late 60s there were a lot of young people ( baby boom generation) now the average age is much older,I think that this will surprise you when you come here. I agree with what a few people have said already that the Vic is the place for you to visit for a drink before and after the game,I hope that you have a good time and that you will want to come back.
Don't think you can really compare the uwe to grounds like Ajax galatasary and juventus these grounds are miles from the centre of the city The Amsterdam arena is 20 mins train ride from the centre of Amsterdam where as I think you would be able to walk from the bulldog to uwe in 10 mins and won't the back off it be almost in lockleaze so still be in built up area as such plus you will be able to drink in town / Cheltenham rd / glos rd and be a few minutes train ride away
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Post by The Concept on Mar 9, 2016 19:00:08 GMT
Good choice! You should have a great stay and being late in the season hopefully we're still in the mix to make things interesting. Plenty to see and do in Bristol if you're staying. Keep an eye on these websites: www.whatsonbristol.co.uk/and visitbristol.co.uk/There are loads of pubs and restaurants all the way down Gloucester Road / Cheltenham Road. You can do a pub crawl all the way back into the centre if you don't mind a bit of a walk.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2016 19:02:59 GMT
That's interesting,i think that part of the reason for lack of atmosphere in a lot of English grounds is all seater stadiums,sounds like Ajax is the same ?,as you say better to stay in the city than move to the outskirts. When you were able to gather on the terraces with your mates and sing it was better,this is still possible at Rovers,some people want to move to a new all seater stadium,i don't think that they realise that the atmosphere will not be as good. The other problem in England is the average age of supporters here,when I started going to Rovers in the late 60s there were a lot of young people ( baby boom generation) now the average age is much older,I think that this will surprise you when you come here. I agree with what a few people have said already that the Vic is the place for you to visit for a drink before and after the game,I hope that you have a good time and that you will want to come back.
Don't think you can really compare the uwe to grounds like Ajax galatasary and juventus these grounds are miles from the centre of the city The Amsterdam arena is 20 mins train ride from the centre of Amsterdam where as I think you would be able to walk from the bulldog to uwe in 10 mins and won't the back off it be almost in lockleaze so still be in built up area as such plus you will be able to drink in town / Cheltenham rd / glos rd and be a few minutes train ride away I reckon the Bulldogs more than a 10 minute walk but I agree that the UWE isn't as far outside the city as say the Allianz,mind you that has its own rail link. I still think that not being able to congregate with your mates will put a lot of people off of going,I find the modern all seater stadiums lacking in atmosphere,in fact theres more atmosphere in some sports bars !. I have read lots of city supporters complaining about the lack of atmosphere there now,seems like a trade off,better facilities to get some new fans in,but lose the atmosphere and some of the traditional fans.
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Post by bs5 on Mar 9, 2016 20:44:44 GMT
Don't think you can really compare the uwe to grounds like Ajax galatasary and juventus these grounds are miles from the centre of the city The Amsterdam arena is 20 mins train ride from the centre of Amsterdam where as I think you would be able to walk from the bulldog to uwe in 10 mins and won't the back off it be almost in lockleaze so still be in built up area as such plus you will be able to drink in town / Cheltenham rd / glos rd and be a few minutes train ride away I reckon the Bulldogs more than a 10 minute walk but I agree that the UWE isn't as far outside the city as say the Allianz,mind you that has its own rail link. I still think that not being able to congregate with your mates will put a lot of people off of going,I find the modern all seater stadiums lacking in atmosphere,in fact theres more atmosphere in some sports bars !. I have read lots of city supporters complaining about the lack of atmosphere there now,seems like a trade off,better facilities to get some new fans in,but lose the atmosphere and some of the traditional fans.
If anything is less than a 10 minute walk from the Bulldog , it's only a short walk over the railway and across Ashley down rugby ground and your at the back of the Mod which is next to the ground, apart from any newly built pubs the Bulldog will be the closest , shame the Gainsborough is closed because that is less than a 5 minute walk to the UWE
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Post by mokum on Mar 11, 2016 12:25:41 GMT
Thank you again for all the comments and tips for our trip! We will definitely go to the Vic and the idea of a pubcrawl back to the center also sounds good!
The problem with the Amsterdam Arena is that it is now not owned by Ajax (we only have some shares) and the stadium is designed as multi functional stadium instead of a Football stadium. This is causing huge problems for us: - The quality of the field is a nightmare! As for concerts the roof should be able to close the conditions to grow grass are simply not good which means the pitch need to be changed a lot of times per season but is also slippery and causing a lot of injuries. - The acoustics are terrible. This means that we can't hear the opposite team sing at all even if they are with 1000+. Also other Ajax supporters at the opposite end are impossible to hear. - When we transferred from the old to the new stadium they had spread all fanatic fans over the entire stadium. This was to discourage hooliganism etc but caused a terrible atmosphere as fanatic fans were at once surrounded by people who just wanted to sit and watch the game. After 6 months they realized this was a mistake and brought all fanatic fans to one section. - We were used to the stands where you can stand with your mates. In the new stadium we had a fixed seat with a number. Therefore you could not chose you own place. What happened was that everybody chose to stand on the chairs as there was no numbering and you could chose yourself with whom you wanted to enjoy the game. Later they have changed the fanatic section to an unnumbered section which means you can chose now where you want to sit/stand yourself. - The decoration of the stadium has to be removable as also our National team, concerts and other events are done there. This means that the stadium can't really breath Ajax. - Being far away from the city centre in the middle of a new and business area is offering bars around the stadium which are new and modern instead of the traditional old pubs.
These are just a few examples of things which affect the atmosphere and the Matchday experience. Most important thing will be that the stadium is owned by Bristol Rovers and that you as Fans and Club have something to say about it. I don't know what will be the situation with Bristol Rovers in terms of ownership in the new stadium?
Besides all negative aspects as described above Ajax remains of course the most beautiful club in the world for us! But a lot of us got really disappointed after the the move to the new stadium and I really hope Bristol Rovers will not make the mistakes made by our club.
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Post by Dutchgas on Mar 11, 2016 22:30:42 GMT
With the Dutch guys making the trip I couldn't resist the temptation of going to this one. Just booked up the flights! UTG
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Post by Bridgeman on Mar 11, 2016 22:41:12 GMT
With the Dutch guys making the trip I couldn't resist the temptation of going to this one. Just booked up the flights! UTG Why not contact Nick Day and ask if you can give a public welcome to them over his microphone in Dutch ?
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Post by Dutchgas on Mar 12, 2016 5:41:54 GMT
With the Dutch guys making the trip I couldn't resist the temptation of going to this one. Just booked up the flights! UTG Why not contact Nick Day and ask if you can give a public welcome to them over his microphone in Dutch ? Good idea or shall we get Nick to give it a go Bridgeman!
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Post by Bridgeman on Mar 12, 2016 23:50:41 GMT
Why not contact Nick Day and ask if you can give a public welcome to them over his microphone in Dutch ? Good idea or shall we get Nick to give it a go Bridgeman! Oo, now let me think........
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Post by laughinggas on Mar 12, 2016 23:55:44 GMT
Thought he was talking Dutch today!
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Post by interceptor on Mar 13, 2016 7:07:21 GMT
I go to Duiven quite often and have friends who support the go ahead eagles in deventer. Are they not a kind of Dutch Bristol Rovers?
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 21, 2016 11:34:10 GMT
Always makes me laugh but not because of the way he talks but because I find I tend to mimic the way people speak when I habe been abroad. For example, my speed of speech went much slower when in Chicago and I spoke with a more guttaral accent when in Germany. It's easy to do and not know it, until your attention is drawn to it
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Post by a more piratey game on Apr 21, 2016 15:38:31 GMT
Its called 'linguistic accommodation' KP. I just googled it and its an interesting theory I think
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 21, 2016 15:45:56 GMT
Its called 'linguistic accommodation' KP. I just googled it and its an interesting theory I think The funniest time was when I drove back from Germany and hit the French toll roads. I was trying to speak the little French I know but it was coming out with a German accent . The French toll operators didn't half give me some funny looks lol
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