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Peter Beadle
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Post by LJG on Jul 3, 2014 9:17:20 GMT
i do actually believe me may well get in the play offs but want to be prepared to accept slightly less than that if i can see progress on the pitch. there isnt any harm in a bit of sarcasm ie "paul buckle was right" or "conference south" but i sometimes think that some of the posters on here will be dissapointed if we got promoted sraight back up sar•casm (ˈsɑr kæz əm) n. 1. harsh or bitter derision or irony. 2. a sharply ironical taunt; sneering or cutting remark. There was no irony or derision in my comment. Just a statement of fact. Paul Buckle said we needed to lower our expectations - you've said you'd be happy with eighth in the conference - Paul Buckle was right; and he's probably laughing his bright orange ass off.
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Post by The Man from Del Monte on Jul 3, 2014 9:20:42 GMT
I will be incredibly disappointed if we do not finish in 7th place (the play offs) at the very least. I refuse to accept anything less and I would question any Rovers fan who thinks that it is acceptable. After all we have been told by the board/manager...(not my words apart from the last one which is fact) -We have one of the biggest budgets in the league (not my words) -We have an experienced non league manager with contacts (not my words) -We are signing non league players over league experience and this is the right way forward (again, not my words) - A board who say they will do everything to go up first time (not my words) - DC has told us we will have pace and goals in the team (not my words, but DC'S) - The 12th best defence in league 2 last season still intact (FACT!) I expect and demand a top 7 finish. I do not think that is too much to ask, especially after what we have been told going into this season by the board, DC and players. Anything less should be considered a failure. That is exactly what I thought when we were relegated from League 2 the first time around. It might take a few years for expectations to be truly lowered but it won't be long before we are an established Conference outfit looking over our shoulder at the drop every year and are grateful for a top half finish. And that will be perfectly acceptable. This club will be dead if it comes to that Pes I am not willing to accept failure next season because I know what that will mean for this club in long run.
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Post by PessimistGas on Jul 3, 2014 9:22:30 GMT
That is exactly what I thought when we were relegated from League 2 the first time around. It might take a few years for expectations to be truly lowered but it won't be long before we are an established Conference outfit looking over our shoulder at the drop every year and are grateful for a top half finish. And that will be perfectly acceptable. This club will be dead if it comes to that Pes I am not willing to accept failure next season because I know what that will mean for this club in long run. I agree, but if and when we fail next season what does not being willing to accept it entail?
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Post by steptoeshorse on Jul 3, 2014 9:25:11 GMT
Alfreton have signed Luke Graham from Hereford, he would have done a job for us in this league. Luke has been doing a BA at university and didn't want to continue as a full time player, I certainly agree though that he would have been an assett.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2014 14:21:34 GMT
i do actually believe me may well get in the play offs but want to be prepared to accept slightly less than that if i can see progress on the pitch. there isnt any harm in a bit of sarcasm ie "paul buckle was right" or "conference south" but i sometimes think that some of the posters on here will be dissapointed if we got promoted sraight back up sar•casm (ˈsɑr kæz əm) n. 1. harsh or bitter derision or irony. 2. a sharply ironical taunt; sneering or cutting remark. There was no irony or derision in my comment. Just a statement of fact. Paul Buckle said we needed to lower our expectations - you've said you'd be happy with eighth in the conference - Paul Buckle was right; and he's probably laughing his bright orange ass off. fair point about your buckle comment,he was right im afraid
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Post by Phrench Phil on Jul 3, 2014 14:22:26 GMT
There may be no long term disadvantage in dropping down to the Conference South as that would at least get the painful medicine over and done with in one large dose. Once we were established there, and competing on a level playing field with clubs like Weston-Super-Mare and Bath City, I'm sure some semblance of pride would return and the future for Rovers would be a lot blighter. There is obviously the danger of a further drop into the Southern League but as long as we don't plan for that then it is unlikely to happen. Ha! Such a 'drop' is obviously not a consideration - even for just a few minutes.
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Post by Phrench Phil on Jul 3, 2014 14:31:42 GMT
I will be incredibly disappointed if we do not finish in 7th place (the play offs) at the very least. I refuse to accept anything less and I would question any Rovers fan who thinks that it is acceptable. After all we have been told by the board/manager...(not my words apart from the last one which is fact) -We have one of the biggest budgets in the league (not my words) -We have an experienced non league manager with contacts (not my words) -We are signing non league players over league experience and this is the right way forward (again, not my words) - A board who say they will do everything to go up first time (not my words) - DC has told us we will have pace and goals in the team (not my words, but DC'S) - The 12th best defence in league 2 last season still intact (FACT!) I expect and demand a top 7 finish. I do not think that is too much to ask, especially after what we have been told going into this season by the board, DC and players. Anything less should be considered a failure. That is exactly what I thought when we were relegated from League 2 the first time around. It might take a few years for expectations to be truly lowered but it won't be long before we are an established Conference outfit looking over our shoulder at the drop every year and are grateful for a top half finish. And that will be perfectly acceptable.I agree with the first part of your post, but the second, highlighted piece.... Surely, and even it should happen, it cannot be considered ' acceptable'!
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mjhgas
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Post by mjhgas on Jul 3, 2014 14:45:16 GMT
You can bang on about lower expectations, but with (as we are continually told) a higher budget than most, our expectations should therefore be higher than most! A good budget and a well-run football club should win every time!!!
If the board had announced 5 years ago that it was our intention to work within a sensible budget (and break-even), then rightly, we could have lowered our expectations (and competed at the lower end of the table!). As it it, we over-budget and run without plans!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2014 14:48:00 GMT
I will be incredibly disappointed if we do not finish in 7th place (the play offs) at the very least. I refuse to accept anything less and I would question any Rovers fan who thinks that it is acceptable. After all we have been told by the board/manager...(not my words apart from the last one which is fact) -We have one of the biggest budgets in the league (not my words) -We have an experienced non league manager with contacts (not my words) -We are signing non league players over league experience and this is the right way forward (again, not my words) - A board who say they will do everything to go up first time (not my words) - DC has told us we will have pace and goals in the team (not my words, but DC'S) - The 12th best defence in league 2 last season still intact (FACT!) I expect and demand a top 7 finish. I do not think that is too much to ask, especially after what we have been told going into this season by the board, DC and players. Anything less should be considered a failure. i think most rovers fans would agree with you i admit
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Post by PessimistGas on Jul 3, 2014 15:36:01 GMT
That is exactly what I thought when we were relegated from League 2 the first time around. It might take a few years for expectations to be truly lowered but it won't be long before we are an established Conference outfit looking over our shoulder at the drop every year and are grateful for a top half finish. And that will be perfectly acceptable.I agree with the first part of your post, but the second, highlighted piece.... Surely, and even it should happen, it cannot be considered ' acceptable'! I don't think that relegation to the Conference is acceptable. Nothing has changed, everything carries on as before. It has been accepted.
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Post by swissgas on Jul 3, 2014 15:54:28 GMT
I agree with the first part of your post, but the second, highlighted piece.... Surely, and even it should happen, it cannot be considered ' acceptable'! I don't think that relegation to the Conference is acceptable. Nothing has changed, everything carries on as before. It has been accepted. If you said that at the meeting on July 21st Nick Higgs would strenuously deny it. He would muster up a determined look of indignation and say "I don't know where you're coming from with that" "We have an exciting new manager who is bringing in young and hungry players and he is assisted by Gas legends Stewy and Yatesy so what more do you want ? " "Do you want us to go back to signing overpaid journeymen who won't play for the shirt and have no affinity for Rovers ?" "No, we are in a transition stage and we must all stick together and give the team time to gel so now is not the time for criticism" And the heads around the room will nod in unison and sounds of ere ere will be mumbled from the seats at the back.
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Post by mehewmagic on Jul 4, 2014 11:49:27 GMT
I will be incredibly disappointed if we do not finish in 7th place (the play offs) at the very least. I refuse to accept anything less and I would question any Rovers fan who thinks that it is acceptable... hate to break the news but it's even worse than you think. 5th is play-offs. Conference is mathematically the hardest league to get out of (the right way). Only 2 go up. 3 go down.; although most years someone goes bust and someone gets a reprieve.
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Post by The Man from Del Monte on Jul 4, 2014 11:59:43 GMT
I will be incredibly disappointed if we do not finish in 7th place (the play offs) at the very least. I refuse to accept anything less and I would question any Rovers fan who thinks that it is acceptable... hate to break the news but it's even worse than you think. 5th is play-offs. Conference is mathematically the hardest league to get out of (the right way). Only 2 go up. 3 go down.; although most years someone goes bust and someone gets a reprieve. Im still living in league football land. Thanks for pointing that out. I guess reality will sink in later at 3 today when the fixtures are out. Bloody hell.
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Post by warmley on Jul 4, 2014 12:04:33 GMT
Also just to point out Wrexham got something like 96 points and didn't go up a few years ago !! Worrying
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