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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 20:26:06 GMT
Easy answer guys, dig your hands in your pockets, re mortgage your house(s), present a business plan to a bank and borrow some money most probably secured on your house(s) and buy the club it's assets and liabilities and you can run it any way you like, be in the know, pick the team, dictate the tactics and hire or fire the manager...and report to the latest protest group. if you're that fired up about where we are get on and do it and stop the ****ing whinging. Do you think it would be possible to buy the assets but not the liabilities ? Only if the club goes into some kind of administrative process
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Post by Northville Blue on Jul 2, 2014 20:29:20 GMT
Uncalled for. If you are happy then that is fine but I doubt you are. IMO it's those, like you, who feel that nothing can be achieved by at least asking some pertinent and non confrontational questions, that make the board feel oblivious to the lifeblood that is the club, it's fans. Why do you feel the need to post like this ? Are you happy with where we are ? No I'm not happy with where we are but listening to nonsense from thickos who's contributions are minimal is so annoying. Frankly turning up and paying £20 a dozen times a season really isn't enough to slag off those who are bankrolling the show. As far as I know there is not a single individual or group interested in acquiring the club...perhaps the whingers should club together and do it themselves..fat chance easier to moan from a safe risk free distance. Pathetic and I'm surprised you defend those who have nothing to offer other than "someone else do something" I can't think of any sane person who would want to take over the club in its current pyramid and financial position but it doesn't mean that those who "really" fund the club can't express their opinions as to how things need to change to improve the situation
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Post by pirateer on Jul 2, 2014 20:35:18 GMT
Do you think it would be possible to buy the assets but not the liabilities ? Only if the club goes into some kind of administrative process I'm assuming the only other way would be for the current owners to walk away and sell the club for £1 as has happened to other clubs.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 20:37:06 GMT
No I'm not happy with where we are but listening to nonsense from thickos who's contributions are minimal is so annoying. Frankly turning up and paying £20 a dozen times a season really isn't enough to slag off those who are bankrolling the show. As far as I know there is not a single individual or group interested in acquiring the club...perhaps the whingers should club together and do it themselves..fat chance easier to moan from a safe risk free distance. Pathetic and I'm surprised you defend those who have nothing to offer other than "someone else do something" I can't think of any sane person who would want to take over the club in its current pyramid and financial position but it doesn't mean that those who "really" fund the club can't express their opinions as to how things need to change to improve the situation All I'm saying is if you feel that passionate about the situation then dig your hands in your own pockets, buy the club and sort it out. If you have neither the will nor resources shut the **** up and stop whinging about the efforts of those who do. It really can't be difficult to grasp even for the most simple minded.
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Post by Northville Blue on Jul 2, 2014 20:38:48 GMT
I can't think of any sane person who would want to take over the club in its current pyramid and financial position but it doesn't mean that those who "really" fund the club can't express their opinions as to how things need to change to improve the situation All I'm saying is if you feel that passionate about the situation then dig your hands in your own pockets, buy the club and sort it out. If you have neither the will nor resources shut the **** up and stop whinging about the efforts of those who do. It really can't be difficult to grasp even for the most simple minded. I tried it once, well 13% of it, but it all went a bit sour. Thanks for the insult, my shoulders are still broader than my waist, just.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 20:40:06 GMT
Only if the club goes into some kind of administrative process I'm assuming the only other way would be for the current owners to walk away and sell the club for £1 as has happened to other clubs. No, because whoever buys it for £1 would take on the liabilities unless the previous owners did. The only way is administration unless all the creditors agreed to allow the debts to be written off...HMRC never do this.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 20:42:48 GMT
All I'm saying is if you feel that passionate about the situation then dig your hands in your own pockets, buy the club and sort it out. If you have neither the will nor resources shut the **** up and stop whinging about the efforts of those who do. It really can't be difficult to grasp even for the most simple minded. I tried it once, well 13% of it, but it all went a bit sour. Thanks for the insult, my shoulders are still broader than my waist, just. Hopefully you didn't lose everything you put in
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Post by Northville Blue on Jul 2, 2014 20:46:31 GMT
I tried it once, well 13% of it, but it all went a bit sour. Thanks for the insult, my shoulders are still broader than my waist, just. Hopefully you didn't lose everything you put in Yes I did, about 40 years.
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Post by Westcountry Gas on Jul 2, 2014 20:52:54 GMT
Heres the piece vimeo.com/99736548 Blink and you'll miss us. LOL !! Wreckless where have you been these last two months ? Supporters angry and frustrated with the lack of a response from the club since May 3rd started forming a group to discuss and generate their greatest concerns and expectations on how to turn the club round. After many meetings and press releases we have moved forward. The group has grown around 40 -60 have attended the ;ast two meetings. We have requests/demands that we want met by the club. If not, then we will resort to peaceful protests. If you are concerned Wreckless, I hope you will go to the Question and Answer on 21 July at the stadium. All the best, Easy answer guys, dig your hands in your pockets, re mortgage your house(s), present a business plan to a bank and borrow some money most probably secured on your house(s) and buy the club it's assets and liabilities and you can run it any way you like, be in the know, pick the team, dictate the tactics and hire or fire the manager...and report to the latest protest group. if you're that fired up about where we are get on and do it and stop the ****ing whinging. The club is their play thing and that is how it will stay, no amount of money is worth them giving up the club and the enjoyment it gives them. Like NB said it's not worth much, so there's no reason why at least 1 person in this big wide world wouldn't be happy to take it on, it's a case of people not letting go, especially when so many want them to as that would smash a big dent into the ego.
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Post by manchestergas on Jul 2, 2014 20:57:17 GMT
MonsterMonster, trying to reconcile your comments on this thread with those on other threads. Here you seem to suggest you can't criticise the BoD unless you are willing buy the club and on other threads criticise the BoD.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 20:57:42 GMT
Hopefully you didn't lose everything you put in Yes I did, about 40 years. They say time us a greater healer
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Post by Northville Blue on Jul 2, 2014 21:02:39 GMT
Yes I did, about 40 years. They say time us a greater healer That is true MonsterMonster and the decree absolute arrived some time ago.
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Post by Curly Wurly on Jul 2, 2014 21:07:26 GMT
I can't think of any sane person who would want to take over the club in its current pyramid and financial position but it doesn't mean that those who "really" fund the club can't express their opinions as to how things need to change to improve the situation All I'm saying is if you feel that passionate about the situation then dig your hands in your own pockets, buy the club and sort it out. If you have neither the will nor resources shut the **** up and stop whinging about the efforts of those who do. It really can't be difficult to grasp even for the most simple minded. Staggering!
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Post by swissgas on Jul 2, 2014 21:07:34 GMT
Easy answer guys, dig your hands in your pockets, re mortgage your house(s), present a business plan to a bank and borrow some money most probably secured on your house(s) and buy the club it's assets and liabilities and you can run it any way you like, be in the know, pick the team, dictate the tactics and hire or fire the manager...and report to the latest protest group. if you're that fired up about where we are get on and do it and stop the ****ing whinging. The club is their play thing and that is how it will stay, no amount of money is worth them giving up the club and the enjoyment it gives them. Like NB said it's not worth much, so there's no reason why at least 1 person in this big wide world wouldn't be happy to take it on, it's a case of people not letting go, especially when so many want them to as that would smash a big dent into the ego. What you seem to be implying WCG is that there is a policy to take the club to a level where it is able to be sustained by the amount of cash the directors can afford to put in each year. Nick Higgs himself once gave me a figure which he thought was needed to get a club from League 1 to the Championship ( I think it was 4 million) and I suspect someone else had given him this figure and he believed it. Events since then have borne out my opinion at the time which was that he felt success was directly proportionate to the amount of money you put in. I never believed this was the case and feel strongly that it's the other factors, the ones Nick seems to ignore, which make the difference between success and failure. But if he's tried what he thought would work and it's resulted in failure, and he's not prepared to try anything else, perhaps he's settling for a level where he can keep funding the club for the foreseeable future rather like an expensive golf club subscription ?
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Post by markczgas on Jul 2, 2014 21:16:39 GMT
You are a RAGING monster !!
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Post by jozer on Jul 2, 2014 21:36:29 GMT
Heres the piece vimeo.com/99736548 Blink and you'll miss us. LOL !! Wreckless where have you been these last two months ? Supporters angry and frustrated with the lack of a response from the club since May 3rd started forming a group to discuss and generate their greatest concerns and expectations on how to turn the club round. After many meetings and press releases we have moved forward. The group has grown around 40 -60 have attended the ;ast two meetings. We have requests/demands that we want met by the club. If not, then we will resort to peaceful protests. If you are concerned Wreckless, I hope you will go to the Question and Answer on 21 July at the stadium. All the best, Easy answer guys, dig your hands in your pockets, re mortgage your house(s), present a business plan to a bank and borrow some money most probably secured on your house(s) and buy the club it's assets and liabilities and you can run it any way you like, be in the know, pick the team, dictate the tactics and hire or fire the manager...and report to the latest protest group. if you're that fired up about where we are get on and do it and stop the ****ing whinging. Anyone who tries to buy Rovers will be told "Git orfff moi laaaaand!!!!!". If they ever did sell they expect a buyer to pay not only what the club is worth, but also to re-imburse them all the money they have flushed down the drain running the club as a basket case for years. Why should anyone pay them that? BRISA et all are not demanding they leave, just suggesting that the club could be run far more effectivly. I dare say your post is exactly what Higgs would say in private, and he's entitled to take that attitude with his property, just as I'm entitled to call him a bull****er when he goers on about the club 'belonging' to it's fans when that suits him.
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Post by The Concept on Jul 2, 2014 21:50:40 GMT
Uncalled for. If you are happy then that is fine but I doubt you are. IMO it's those, like you, who feel that nothing can be achieved by at least asking some pertinent and non confrontational questions, that make the board feel oblivious to the lifeblood that is the club, it's fans. Why do you feel the need to post like this ? Are you happy with where we are ? No I'm not happy with where we are but listening to nonsense from thickos who's whose contributions are minimal is so annoying. Frankly turning up and paying £20 a dozen times a season really isn't enough to slag off those who are bankrolling the show. As far as I know there is not a single individual or group interested in acquiring the club...perhaps the whingers should club together and do it themselves..fat chance easier to moan from a safe risk free distance. Pathetic and I'm surprised you defend those who have nothing to offer other than "someone else do something"
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Post by jozer on Jul 3, 2014 1:53:51 GMT
In a way you're right, we are indeed a bunch of keyboard warriors and whingers here. But I don't see you offering any alternative to those of us who believe that this BoD are a self-perpetuating shambles who bull**** Rovers fans on a daily basis.
Indeed I do not have the money to buy them out. If I did have that sort of money and the inclination to take on Rovers I can ssure you I would only be prepared to pay what it is worth. No way would I also pay them back all the money they have p155ed up the wall with their whelk stall 'business model', and that is what they say they expect any buyer to do, when they discuss selling at all, but I really don't believe they would ever sell anyway. They've got Rovers exactly where they want it.
If you find this all so depressing why don't you just chill out and mentally prepare yourself to enjoy supporting a non-League team for the rest of your life?
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jul 3, 2014 11:29:40 GMT
Uncalled for. If you are happy then that is fine but I doubt you are. IMO it's those, like you, who feel that nothing can be achieved by at least asking some pertinent and non confrontational questions, that make the board feel oblivious to the lifeblood that is the club, it's fans. Why do you feel the need to post like this ? Are you happy with where we are ? No I'm not happy with where we are but listening to nonsense from thickos who's contributions are minimal is so annoying. Frankly turning up and paying £20 a dozen times a season really isn't enough to slag off those who are bankrolling the show. As far as I know there is not a single individual or group interested in acquiring the club...perhaps the whingers should club together and do it themselves..fat chance easier to moan from a safe risk free distance. Pathetic and I'm surprised you defend those who have nothing to offer other than "someone else do something" When Geoff D puts the club at a valuation the same as Aston Villa then what you say is made a nonsense. It has been proven beyond a doubt that our current board, at least 2 of them, have no interest in moving on at all. If ANY group did decide to do as you say then they would have to still work with those two. As far as I know there has been interest but it has quickly dissipated due to the price and conditions that come with any potential sale You say you are surprised I defend the protest, of course I do. To carte Blanche then all as thickos is pretty derisory mate, they are good people who are regulars at matches. I know most from the meetings at hospitality from the fans forum sponsor club. Just as an aside, what would you do ? Or do you believe we should just keep out of it and allow the same stuff to carry on with no one even trying to change the way we are treated ? As far as I can tell the main aim is to get better communication as a starting point. I don't see that as unreasonable at all. I really don't get the animosity that comes through from your posting at all.
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Post by eppinggas on Jul 3, 2014 13:48:32 GMT
You are a RAGING monster !! Probably a member of the Monster Raging Looney Party...
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