lockleazer
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Post by lockleazer on Jul 2, 2014 7:55:05 GMT
A point on the GAschat forum id that the BRISA has a link to this forum, but not Gaschat. I appreciate this is the bigger forum, but if BRISA is to be representative on the fans, I think it only right to link to the other forum as well as anything that looks like a specific affiliation might be detrimental. Of course,that is up to those in charge Totally agree. I will speak with Ras. Can add a links page... can inc all known gas forums ...
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gassedup
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Post by gassedup on Jul 2, 2014 8:27:43 GMT
Totally agree. I will speak with Ras. Can add a links page... can inc all known gas forums ... Can we put in a drop down for the different forums from the current link and change its name to forums or something like that.
Ras is happy.
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jul 2, 2014 9:50:40 GMT
I do not deny that these groups have the club at heart in the same way that the Supporters Club has the club at heart BUT my feeling is that unfortunately it is a waste of time until a group has financial backing BECAUSE the Board will never talk to these groups and consider them hostile. In fairness, I would say that they are not far wrong from what I read on here. That is not to say I disagree with a lot of the hostility but at the end of the day the only hope without a backer is that the players and Manager can bring success back to the club. The flaw in your argument is that the directors would not sell. Geoff Dunford has had offers but valued the club in par with Aston Villa. Those who truly believe the board has the clubs interest at heart in some kind of altruistic manner are very wrong. These guys would be relatively wealthy local people but their profiles would be insignificant without their involvement in the club. They have used and abused their positions too much and have put us in the awful position where we are now. No, it would not matter if new money came in, we have a board who are both obstinate and who most would not work with. It does seem we are stuck with them because if this. If they really had the clubs best interest at heart then we would have had new people in and my guess is that we would not be suffering the ignominy of being non league Bristol Rovers.
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Post by stevek192 on Jul 2, 2014 10:11:53 GMT
KP We can all guess all we like but NOBODY knows how we might or might not have done but one thing is for sure there was NOBODY else who would step in and save us when we left Eastville. Whatever we might think of the Board until somebody comes in with a lot of money we are stuck with them and the only thing that is certain is that we will continue to make losses which the directors can only sustain for so long. Mind you i dont quite see why we need crowds of 9500 to break even and yet a lot of clubs survive on 1500! As I have said before I have no real interest in these groups and my only interest is in the game I watch each week. i am not happy with Conference football but I very much hope we will have a very successful season and regain our status quick.
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Post by gassedup on Jul 2, 2014 10:32:50 GMT
KP We can all guess all we like but NOBODY knows how we might or might not have done but one thing is for sure there was NOBODY else who would step in and save us when we left Eastville. Whatever we might think of the Board until somebody comes in with a lot of money we are stuck with them and the only thing that is certain is that we will continue to make losses which the directors can only sustain for so long. Mind you i dont quite see why we need crowds of 9500 to break even and yet a lot of clubs survive on 1500! As I have said before I have no real interest in these groups and my only interest is in the game I watch each week. i am not happy with Conference football but I very much hope we will have a very successful season and regain our status quick. Steve
I assume you were not there last night but my offer of a pint is there whenever we both have chance.
I have no wish whatsoever to spend my valuable time setting up data bases (my wrist aches) and campaigning. My sole wish is for an acceptable game of football to watch and to support my team whilst doing so. Even better if we are moving up the Leagues. I cannot go elsewhere to support another team; 1968 is a long time ago.
I don't really want to be involved in how the Club is run or whether it is professional or not; that should really be a given. However those issues do affect the players on the pitch, they are totally interrelated. Therefore I have no choice but to try to see things moved forward.
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Peter Parker
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Post by Peter Parker on Jul 2, 2014 10:44:27 GMT
I posted this on Gaschat in response to someone's doubts.
It doesn’t have to be a game changing organisation.
I am not involved in BRISA, but right now is the very birth of an organisation that could grow into whatever its members want it to be. Yes it has an aim to give an independent voice, ask questions when needed. Yes the SC can do this, but unfortunately they have been tied to the FC for so long that rightly or wrongly it is perceived often as just an extension of the club
BRISA doesn’t have to threaten the SC and the important jobs they do for the club and the fans, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t room for it to run alongside the SC. If BRISA happens to jolt the SC then is that a bad thing?
Outside the SC, BRISA can have its own Home days (if the club allow it) away days, social evenings. Raise money for specified areas of the club, raise money for charity or whatever.
It is early days for a supporters group that if it catches on can grow into whatever. It may crash and burn who knows but I think it is best to see beyond BRISA being there just to be a challenging voice and look at what it could be potentially down the line however many years in the future
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Post by Cheshiregas on Jul 2, 2014 11:54:20 GMT
KP We can all guess all we like but NOBODY knows how we might or might not have done but one thing is for sure there was NOBODY else who would step in and save us when we left Eastville. Whatever we might think of the Board until somebody comes in with a lot of money we are stuck with them and the only thing that is certain is that we will continue to make losses which the directors can only sustain for so long. Mind you i dont quite see why we need crowds of 9500 to break even and yet a lot of clubs survive on 1500! As I have said before I have no real interest in these groups and my only interest is in the game I watch each week. i am not happy with Conference football but I very much hope we will have a very successful season and regain our status quick. Steve, this BoD is not the same BoD that led us through the early dark days at Twerton. That BoD had the wisdom, passion and direction of such people as Denis Dunford who saw themselves as custodians. These directors although fans see themselves as investors not guardians of the club. Many people are like your good self and want to watch league football week in, week out. That is not possible in Bristol without going to the dark side. Unlike you there are some who want to do something to change that situation. That number has grown from the few who were derided by the old OF as trouble makers and the remnants of 2006 to a significant number who are so frustrated at being sidelined and treated with contempt by the BoD that they NOW want to do something tangible. It may come to nothing but at least they feel as if they are doing something. At least they care enough to want to help the club in a practical way. But the BoD needs to be more responsive and inclusive of the fanbase. No one will come in to assist the BoD unless they ask or put the club up for sale. I know numerous fans with knowledge, experience, contacts, money etc who would step in to help but many have been excluded or ostracisied in one shape or form by the BoD in the past. By all means go week in and week out in the hope that things will change but please don't criticise those who want to do something to change our situation. They care as much as you do about the club they support.
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Post by strung out on Jul 2, 2014 13:13:17 GMT
Can add a links page... can inc all known gas forums ... Can we put in a drop down for the different forums from the current link and change its name to forums or something like that.
Ras is happy.
I can sort that out - the main reason for not doing that previously was that there seemed to be some resistance on Gaschat to having any link to BRISA. I know there was a separate section created quite far down the list, but discussion of BRISA was certainly discouraged in the Gas Works section of the forum, which in my view hindered debate on the idea.
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gassedup
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Post by gassedup on Jul 2, 2014 13:31:06 GMT
Can we put in a drop down for the different forums from the current link and change its name to forums or something like that.
Ras is happy.
I can sort that out - the main reason for not doing that previously was that there seemed to be some resistance on Gaschat to having any link to BRISA. I know there was a separate section created quite far down the list, but discussion of BRISA was certainly discouraged in the Gas Works section of the forum, which in my view hindered debate on the idea. Agreed Ted which is why I have tried to be very conscious of what I put on Gaschat. I have "spoken" to Ras and he is happy for a link to go on the BRISA website to take people to Gaschat. There is also not606 and gaslist(?) as required.
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puregas
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Jul 2, 2014 14:25:11 GMT
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Post by puregas on Jul 2, 2014 14:25:11 GMT
Don't forget to include the People's Popular Front.
Splitters.
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Post by faggotygas on Jul 2, 2014 14:36:40 GMT
KP We can all guess all we like but NOBODY knows how we might or might not have done but one thing is for sure there was NOBODY else who would step in and save us when we left Eastville. Whatever we might think of the Board until somebody comes in with a lot of money we are stuck with them and the only thing that is certain is that we will continue to make losses which the directors can only sustain for so long. Mind you i dont quite see why we need crowds of 9500 to break even and yet a lot of clubs survive on 1500! As I have said before I have no real interest in these groups and my only interest is in the game I watch each week. i am not happy with Conference football but I very much hope we will have a very successful season and regain our status quick. Money for what? As far as I can tell BRISA's aims are to campaign for improvements on behalf of the fans, not to take over the club.
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Post by ThisCharmingMan on Jul 2, 2014 15:48:25 GMT
Done. Time to unite for the good of OUR club Gasheads!
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Jul 2, 2014 17:07:44 GMT
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Post by croscombegas on Jul 2, 2014 17:07:44 GMT
I signed up yesterday, but not received a number etc like the other 500+ have
Any ideas please ?
Thanks
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gassedup
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Post by gassedup on Jul 2, 2014 17:14:34 GMT
I signed up yesterday, but not received a number etc like the other 500+ have Any ideas please ? Thanks Sorry. What time yesterday?
I have not replied since about 3.00pm. It will be with you tonight.
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Jul 2, 2014 17:24:45 GMT
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Post by croscombegas on Jul 2, 2014 17:24:45 GMT
I signed up yesterday, but not received a number etc like the other 500+ have Any ideas please ? Thanks Sorry. What time yesterday?
I have not replied since about 3.00pm. It will be with you tonight.
Cheers mate
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 20:25:22 GMT
How many Independant Supporters' Association members are there?
It seemed to jump from 50 to 500?
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Post by Northville Blue on Jul 2, 2014 20:32:42 GMT
How many Independant Supporters' Association members are there? It seemed to jump from 50 to 500? I've just asked the same question on a different thread Bamber. I read on another forum that the membership numbers started at 400, not sure why?
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Jul 2, 2014 20:33:48 GMT
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Post by Peter Parker on Jul 2, 2014 20:33:48 GMT
How many Independant Supporters' Association members are there? It seemed to jump from 50 to 500? I think Gassedup said he started at 450 because a couple of them were issuing numbers and obviously dont want to get in each others way
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Post by nerdgas on Jul 2, 2014 20:35:18 GMT
How many Independant Supporters' Association members are there? It seemed to jump from 50 to 500? I've just asked the same question on a different thread Bamber. I read on another forum that the membership numbers started at 400, not sure why? The reason given on Gaschat was that 4 diff people were going to be allocating membership numbers each starting at 100, 200, 300, etc. As it was only the person who started at 400 had the time so that's why the numbers started there....
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Post by Northville Blue on Jul 2, 2014 20:37:05 GMT
I've just asked the same question on a different thread Bamber. I read on another forum that the membership numbers started at 400, not sure why? The reason given on Gaschat was that 4 diff people were going to be allocating membership numbers each starting at 100, 200, 300, etc. As it was only the person who started at 400 had the time so that's why the numbers started there.... Thanks Nerdy so the membership is around 100 or so.
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