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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 21:48:15 GMT
We're Carlisle that bad? Perhaps a complete team performance with few mistakes did not let them play! I thought we played well but Carlisle were abysmal. |
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Post by manchestergas on Nov 14, 2015 21:50:28 GMT
Is Geoff D on Twitter tonight saying he brought Matty Taylor to the club and the rest of the Board tried to stop him?
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Post by Igitur on Nov 14, 2015 21:58:14 GMT
Sinclair's booking was terrible. The guy was not in Sinclair's vision when his boot started to lift and the guy put his head down towards the ball.
Time and time again this action gets at least a free kick, and often a yellow card.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 22:06:58 GMT
Sinclair's booking was terrible. The guy was not in Sinclair's vision when his boot started to lift and the guy put his head down towards the ball. Time and time again this action gets at least a free kick, and often a yellow card. I thought Sinclair was lucky not to get a red. His foot was ridiculously high and connected with their player's head! But after that I thought Sinclair had a very good game, again. What a solid player he is turning into! |
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Post by matealotblue on Nov 14, 2015 22:08:34 GMT
Sinclair's booking was terrible. The guy was not in Sinclair's vision when his boot started to lift and the guy put his head down towards the ball. Time and time again this action gets at least a free kick, and often a yellow card. Think showed a complete lack of common sense on that one. Is it defined anywhere in the laws what constitutes a "high boot" v "a low head"? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 23:34:47 GMT
Sinclair's booking was terrible. The guy was not in Sinclair's vision when his boot started to lift and the guy put his head down towards the ball. Time and time again this action gets at least a free kick, and often a yellow card. I thought Sinclair was lucky not to get a red. His foot was ridiculously high and connected with their player's head! But after that I thought Sinclair had a very good game, again. What a solid player he is turning into! The bloke came from behind Sinclaire's left shoulder and chose to put his head down when he could see that the ball was going to be played.
Gamesmanship, and another overweight ref who had little idea what was going on fell for it.
But for me the worst part of that was that he stayed on the floor pretending to be hurt, but 1 minute later was up and running around again. Maybe it's just me, but I would have thought that an impact to the head severe enough to leave someone curled up on the floor in agony would have required him to go to hospital and be placed under observation for a while? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 23:45:55 GMT
I thought Sinclair was lucky not to get a red. His foot was ridiculously high and connected with their player's head! But after that I thought Sinclair had a very good game, again. What a solid player he is turning into! The bloke came from behind Sinclaire's left shoulder and chose to put his head down when he could see that the ball was going to be played.
Gamesmanship, and another overweight ref who had little idea what was going on fell for it.
But for me the worst part of that was that he stayed on the floor pretending to be hurt, but 1 minute later was up and running around again. Maybe it's just me, but I would have thought that an impact to the head severe enough to leave someone curled up on the floor in agony would have required him to go to hospital and be placed under observation for a while? It was a glancing blow to the head. Probably hurt for a moment and then stopped. If you put your foot up above waist height, and the other guy goes to head it, you're in trouble unless you win the ball cleanly. As it was I think the ref got it right. But for a few seconds after it happened, I feared the worst. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 23:58:55 GMT
Nope, not having that, he's a grown man, either he's hurt enough to be curled up on the floor, in which case the ref has a duty of care to exclude him from play whilst he's assessed for concussion, or he's just taken a little knock and should get on with the game.
Edit, don't know what's happened to the 'Quote' function, probably me doing it wrong, the bit I wanted to quote was where you said;
It was a glancing blow to the head. Probably hurt for a moment and then stopped.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2015 0:48:41 GMT
Nope, not having that, he's a grown man, either he's hurt enough to be curled up on the floor, in which case the ref has a duty of care to exclude him from play whilst he's assessed for concussion, or he's just taken a little knock and should get on with the game.
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Post by bluetornados on Nov 15, 2015 1:35:35 GMT
We have played Carlisle 34 times, W13, L12, D9..biggest win was 5-2 and loss was 4-0 twice. Both teams this season have won 7 in the league and both have a +1 GD. I am going for a 2-1 win and a 6444 crowd. Hey, you weren't far off, bluetornados... 2-0 and 6,423  Thanks for that M8, i wonder how many came all the way down from Cumbria today. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Nov 15, 2015 5:35:07 GMT
Hey, you weren't far off, bluetornados... 2-0 and 6,423 Thanks for that M8, i wonder how many came all the way down from Cumbria today. 350-odd away fans. Fair play to them.. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2015 6:06:36 GMT
Nope, not having that, he's a grown man, either he's hurt enough to be curled up on the floor, in which case the ref has a duty of care to exclude him from play whilst he's assessed for concussion, or he's just taken a little knock and should get on with the game.
Have you not watched much football in the last fifty years? Plenty, which is why I'm heartily bored of play-acting, or to give it its real name, cheating.
Had that happened in the last 5 mins with his team losing 1-0 he would have just got on with things. |
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Post by Bernard Briggs on Nov 15, 2015 8:03:46 GMT
Sinclair's booking was terrible. The guy was not in Sinclair's vision when his boot started to lift and the guy put his head down towards the ball. Time and time again this action gets at least a free kick, and often a yellow card. Think showed a complete lack of common sense on that one. Is it defined anywhere in the laws what constitutes a "high boot" v "a low head"? No, it`s not. It`s up to how the referee sees it. But on this occasion, I didn`t think that Sinclair`s boot was particularly high, whilst their player`s head was particularly low. I agree with Igitur. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2015 9:30:59 GMT
Have you not watched much football in the last fifty years? Plenty, which is why I'm heartily bored of play-acting, or to give it its real name, cheating.
Had that happened in the last 5 mins with his team losing 1-0 he would have just got on with things. We've got two of the worst offenders for it I can remember playing up front at the moment (Easter is more of a diver, and Taylor is a dreadful 'feigner'), and virtually every player has done it at some point depending on the game situation, so getting all high-and-mighty about a Carlisle player who had just been kicked in the head seems a bit rich to me. |
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Post by interceptor on Nov 15, 2015 9:56:07 GMT
Sinclair's booking was terrible. The guy was not in Sinclair's vision when his boot started to lift and the guy put his head down towards the ball. Time and time again this action gets at least a free kick, and often a yellow card. I thought Sinclair was lucky not to get a red. His foot was ridiculously high and connected with their player's head! But after that I thought Sinclair had a very good game, again. What a solid player he is turning into! I love sinclair, he epitomises what a Bristol Rovers footballer should be. In addition to the high foot, I think we also need to forget high shot! |
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Post by DudeLebowski on Nov 15, 2015 11:15:09 GMT
The foot was waist height, player stuck his head in & Sinclair raised his boot. Wasn't exactly stood bolt up right having his head taken off.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2015 11:22:42 GMT
Plenty, which is why I'm heartily bored of play-acting, or to give it its real name, cheating.
Had that happened in the last 5 mins with his team losing 1-0 he would have just got on with things. We've got two of the worst offenders for it I can remember playing up front at the moment (Easter is more of a diver, and Taylor is a dreadful 'feigner'), and virtually every player has done it at some point depending on the game situation, so getting all high-and-mighty about a Carlisle player who had just been kicked in the head seems a bit rich to me. 1. He wasn't 'kicked in the head', he put his head into a boot. Stuart had no idea that the man was about to put his head down, he couldn't see him, he came from behind his left shoulder.
2. I hate seeing Rovers' players cheating even more than opposition players doing it. And I'm not the only one, yesterday Taylor threw himself on the floor and plenty of people around me shouted at him to stop doing it.
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Post by matealotblue on Nov 15, 2015 11:25:35 GMT
Think showed a complete lack of common sense on that one. Is it defined anywhere in the laws what constitutes a "high boot" v "a low head"? No, it`s not. It`s up to how the referee sees it. But on this occasion, I didn`t think that Sinclair`s boot was particularly high, whilst their player`s head was particularly low. I agree with Igitur.So do I. Looking back I just didn't type properly. Meant to say "Think the ref showed a complete lack of common sense". But missed out the words. Being a Brizzle lad I never was much good at this English language stuff! As has been said in other posts think the guy came from behind Sincs and he was right to go for the ball like that. Free kick but not a yellow and in some cases with some refs could have been a red. |
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Post by mrbluesky on Nov 15, 2015 12:17:28 GMT
well carlisle beat plymouth away last week and have had some good results this season so they cant be that bad a side surely?
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Post by GasMacc1 on Nov 15, 2015 12:36:12 GMT
One of the refs on the forum can correct me if things have changed in the last decade or so, but the law always used to say that if you put your head in low then you are the one that gets penalised for dangerous play (by an indirect free kick, if I remember correctly).
The free kick should have gone to Rovers!
Lee Brown, Mark McChrystal and Tom Parkes all "took one for the team" to halt potential Carlisle counter-attacks. That's a tactic we see at all levels, right up to the top echelons of world football. So I have no problem with the ref showing them yellow cards.
I found it incredible, though, that he kept his card in his pocket for all of the 12 fouls (BBC stat) which the Cumbrians committed.
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