LJG
Peter Beadle
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Post by LJG on Sept 22, 2015 14:35:37 GMT
You don't know what I know. You don't know what they know. You calling anyone "those in the know" is silly because I know what I know, they know what they know and the only person who doesn't know anything - apart from what you know - is you. In which case you don't know who "those in the know" are. All you know is you're not in the know. You say that like I am upset about not being in the know. I am not bothered about not being in the know. If I was bothered about it then I would act a fool and make up some nonsense to gain attention and pretend I'm in the know. Im not the one who has done that Who would make something up to gain attention on a football forum?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 14:44:18 GMT
You say that like I am upset about not being in the know. I am not bothered about not being in the know. If I was bothered about it then I would act a fool and make up some nonsense to gain attention and pretend I'm in the know. Im not the one who has done that Who would make something up to gain attention on a football forum? Someone who is pretty sad. Also those 'really' in the know just give what they can and explain their reasons for doing so and then leave it to others to decide to believe it or not. Those pretending to be in the know just go on and on and on and on and on defending the bull that they came up with and do it so many times that they believe their own lie!
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Post by alloutofgas on Sept 22, 2015 14:44:48 GMT
Reminds me of Donald Rumsfeld's brilliant speech about known knowns, unknown knowns etc....
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lockleazer
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Post by lockleazer on Sept 22, 2015 15:22:46 GMT
Just to add to this mystery my sources tell me of a consortium looking at the possibility of buying into BRFC forum takeover rumours , a group very popular at the moment.... Back to the issues
In my mind if this consortium are serious and have honourable intentions they need to show themselves NOW ... Get fan backing and you have a foot in the door but the longer they remain in the shadows the less trusting the fan base will become
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 22, 2015 15:27:07 GMT
Who would make something up to gain attention on a football forum? Someone who is pretty sad. Also those 'really' in the know just give what they can and explain their reasons for doing so and then leave it to others to decide to believe it or not. Those pretending to be in the know just go on and on and on and on and on defending the bull that they came up with and do it so many times that they believe their own lie! And, please believe me on this, always HAVE to have the last word. Best left alone or blocked. Some people you just cannot reason with & it seems their main aim is to antagonise & irritate. It takes all sorts I guess but I just can't be bothered with that or in feeling a need to constantly rationalise and explain myself. The block feature is great for putting pay to this.
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Gas-Ed
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Post by Gas-Ed on Sept 22, 2015 16:14:24 GMT
Consortium Approach Rovers Vital Gas understands that a Consortium has made an approach to take over Bristol Rovers Football Club with a promise to invest at least 40 million into building a new Stadium at the UWE and further investment into the team.. It is thought that current Owner and Chairman, Nick Higgs has rejected this advance as it stands as the offer does not allow for repayment of losses that he incurred during his ownership.. The Consortium is thought to be Birmingham based but currently the identities of the individuals involved are unknown. Read more: www.bristolrovers.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=414400#ixzz3mU74MWlj
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 22, 2015 16:22:48 GMT
Consortium Approach Rovers Vital Gas understands that a Consortium has made an approach to take over Bristol Rovers Football Club with a promise to invest at least 40 million into building a new Stadium at the UWE and further investment into the team.. It is thought that current Owner and Chairman, Nick Higgs has rejected this advance as it stands as the offer does not allow for repayment of losses that he incurred during his ownership.. The Consortium is thought to be Birmingham based but currently the identities of the individuals involved are unknown. Read more: www.bristolrovers.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=414400#ixzz3mU74MWljSo, it it comes down to 2 things. Do you believe Vital ? I do. Has form for getting it right second point. Does NH put himself before the club and does he have the clubs best interests at heart ? I know what I think. This will most definitely put the proverbial cat amongst the Pigeons. Well done Jon the Stripe. Never doubted you mate
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Peter Parker
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Post by Peter Parker on Sept 22, 2015 16:26:07 GMT
Consortium Approach Rovers Vital Gas understands that a Consortium has made an approach to take over Bristol Rovers Football Club with a promise to invest at least 40 million into building a new Stadium at the UWE and further investment into the team.. It is thought that current Owner and Chairman, Nick Higgs has rejected this advance as it stands as the offer does not allow for repayment of losses that he incurred during his ownership.. The Consortium is thought to be Birmingham based but currently the identities of the individuals involved are unknown. Read more: www.bristolrovers.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=414400#ixzz3mU74MWljIF true the question is how much are they willing to pay for 1883 Ltd?
The football club is worth nothing, but 1883 Ltd does have the asset that is the stadium worth £0-30m depending on the validity of the Sainsbury's contract come appeal, less external/internal loans
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Post by lulworthgas on Sept 22, 2015 16:31:25 GMT
I think this is where we are. It's going to be hard to agree a price to buy/sell at whilst the Sainsbury's situation is still in flux. For what it's worth, I think Jon's rumour is probably accurate, but still don't see what was gained from leaking it. It gave us soomething to gossip about, but hard to see how it will create trust and help negotiations with Nick and the people considering investing. If the intention was to try to put pressure on Higgs, just look at the Sainsbury's situation, he isn't someone who just shrugs his shoulders and gives up. Hi Bamber always enjoy reading your posts so i'll give you my response - my 'rumour' is fact to the best of my knowledge - i think some people may be seeing this purely as an attack on our chairman by myself and this is not true - my motive if any was to 'out' the story cause if i know it others must too and why shouldn't everyone know? - plus try to get either the club or the consortium to 'show their hand' cause like everyone else i would like more and fuller details of whats happening - of course time will tell if i was right or wrong to do so and i have to live with that - just thought i tried to clarify ok mate - UTG For what it's worth, I'm glad JTS has told us what he knows up to now. There aren't many posters on either forum who I would believe to have sources close enough to the club to make their information credible. With his work on the FFSC he would be/is ideally placed to become the unofficial link to the fans. I'm watching with great interest to see what develops, it's just a shame that the thread is being ruined slightly with pathetic story's that would make Keith Chimp credible. UTG
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Post by PessimistGas on Sept 22, 2015 16:39:51 GMT
You say that like I am upset about not being in the know. I am not bothered about not being in the know. If I was bothered about it then I would act a fool and make up some nonsense to gain attention and pretend I'm in the know. Im not the one who has done that Who would make something up to gain attention on a football forum? So both JTS and Vital Gas have fabricated this story? Grow up.
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LJG
Peter Beadle
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Post by LJG on Sept 22, 2015 16:43:10 GMT
Who would make something up to gain attention on a football forum? So both JTS and Vital Gas have fabricated this story? Grow up. a) Where did I say that? b) Regardless of anything else it is possible for made up things to appear in more than one place on the internet c) What's with the aggression?
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torchy
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Post by torchy on Sept 22, 2015 16:46:08 GMT
As vital gas stated that it was a Birmingham based consortium, hopefully it involves Mike Turl who now lives in the Midlands.
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Post by PessimistGas on Sept 22, 2015 16:54:30 GMT
So both JTS and Vital Gas have fabricated this story? Grow up. a) Where did I say that? b) Regardless of anything else it is possible for made up things to appear in more than one place on the internet c) What's with the aggression? Apologies if I came over as aggressive, it certainly wasn't my intention.
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Post by PessimistGas on Sept 22, 2015 16:56:46 GMT
As vital gas stated that it was a Birmingham based consortium, hopefully it involves Mike Turl who now lives in the Midlands. What I don't understand is a £40m investment is being talked about, how much does Higgs want back? Surely in that context it will be small change? Or is he valuing the Mem at £30m?
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Alveston Gas
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Post by Alveston Gas on Sept 22, 2015 17:05:35 GMT
As vital gas stated that it was a Birmingham based consortium, hopefully it involves Mike Turl who now lives in the Midlands. Isn't Mike involved with Solihull Moors FC now? They seem to be going quite well so to leave might not be ideal timing. His is not a name I have heard mentioned but the Birmingham connection does tie in with a rumour I have picked up on (quite accidentally) from the south of that area. i too believe what JTS & Vital have announced, there are far too many coincidences, no smoke without fire etc etc. Anyway let's hope we hear something soon.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 17:07:00 GMT
As vital gas stated that it was a Birmingham based consortium, hopefully it involves Mike Turl who now lives in the Midlands. Birmingham based, huh? This could be fun. Who else is Birmingham based? Rustie Lee? Noddy Holder? [Hopefully not BSS.]
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Alveston Gas
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Post by Alveston Gas on Sept 22, 2015 17:07:04 GMT
As vital gas stated that it was a Birmingham based consortium, hopefully it involves Mike Turl who now lives in the Midlands. What I don't understand is a £40m investment is being talked about, how much does Higgs want back? Surely in that context it will be small change? Or is he valuing the Mem at £30m? I guess he thinks if he wins his Appeal the value of compensation might enable him to recoup his outlay?? I have heard of far larger amounts mentioned but it's all probably bulls**t!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 17:14:06 GMT
As vital gas stated that it was a Birmingham based consortium, hopefully it involves Mike Turl who now lives in the Midlands. What I don't understand is a £40m investment is being talked about, how much does Higgs want back? Surely in that context it will be small change? Or is he valuing the Mem at £30m? I'd assume he is, based on refusing to accept that there isn't a valid contract to sell it for that so long as he's holding permission to appeal. I'd also assume no buyer would accept that fantasy valuation and we're stuck in a Higgs-shaped blockage.
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Post by PessimistGas on Sept 22, 2015 17:17:06 GMT
What I don't understand is a £40m investment is being talked about, how much does Higgs want back? Surely in that context it will be small change? Or is he valuing the Mem at £30m? I'd assume he is, based on refusing to accept that there isn't a valid contract to sell it for that so long as he's holding permission to appeal. I'd also assume no buyer would accept that fantasy valuation and we're stuck in a Higgs-shaped blockage. Or no one knows what he wants because he is refusing to even enter into dialogue? The consortium need to go public and state exactly what is on the table.
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 22, 2015 17:29:00 GMT
What I don't understand is a £40m investment is being talked about, how much does Higgs want back? Surely in that context it will be small change? Or is he valuing the Mem at £30m? I'd assume he is, based on refusing to accept that there isn't a valid contract to sell it for that so long as he's holding permission to appeal. I'd also assume no buyer would accept that fantasy valuation and we're stuck in a Higgs-shaped blockage. Well this will definitely mix things up and maybe get some kind of response from those who write NH's monthly updates. My version of it goes something like this we have had a number of people contact us with interest in the club but we feel that this offer is not in the best interests of the club. We continue to ensure BRFC have the right people in place to fight the appeal against Sainsburys and that the club have a competitive budget to continue on the playing side. We are very pleased with the continued encouragement NH is getting in his ongoing fight with Sainsburys and be assured that we are doing everything we can to ensure the club remains in good hands. The usual no real news guff. Let's see how much of a poker face NH has now.
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