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Post by PessimistGas on May 22, 2015 23:55:33 GMT
When Ward was our manager, he spoke to Darrell Clarke over the phone in pre-season about a player at Salisbury. Somehow in that same phone call, John Ward offered Darrell the assistant managers job. Someone else might have come in and kept us up.
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Post by interceptor on May 23, 2015 5:04:22 GMT
I believe Ward was blind to the disruptive influence of JJ the Tool on the assembled journeymen who ran through the midfield and front positions.
You also have to look at what has happened to the players that went on to other clubs afterwards
Matt Harrold - 2 more clubs
Beardsley just released - his scoring record as a striker is pathetic.
Stephen Gillespie - 2 more lower non league clubs
The Tool - shipped out on loan to Southend and then told to find a future elsewhere by Northampton.
I could go on with Richards, Gow, Mohammed etc but the point is that Ward bought these guys in and they were just football mercenaries, there for £.
They were collectively responsible. They are gone.
We have our Rovers back and Rovers have their supporters back, in love with the club and all it stands for. The manager and the players certainly appear to want to die trying for the badge.
For what we have now I am not disappointed we went down, but it was ultimately on Wards shoulders that we were relegated.
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Post by Alveston Gas on May 23, 2015 7:02:07 GMT
Hey, as DC said himself, "Sometimes I get it right, sometimes I get it wrong." I'll say the same. So, I suspect, would John Ward. Just as well for us DC gets it right far more than you do. Harsh but true - one of buckrippers blogs castigating DC mid season was sufficient to bring the wrath of most Gasheads down on his head. Seems to have changed tack which is encouraging. However a new blog singing his praises from the highest tree would be nice! |
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Post by brisgas123 on May 23, 2015 7:24:59 GMT
I believe Ward was blind to the disruptive influence of JJ the Tool on the assembled journeymen who ran through the midfield and front positions. You also have to look at what has happened to the players that went on to other clubs afterwards Matt Harrold - 2 more clubs Beardsley just released - his scoring record as a striker is pathetic. Stephen Gillespie - 2 more lower non league clubs The Tool - shipped out on loan to Southend and then told to find a future elsewhere by Northampton. I could go on with Richards, Gow, Mohammed etc but the point is that Ward bought these guys in and they were just football mercenaries, there for £. They were collectively responsible. They are gone. We have our Rovers back and Rovers have their supporters back, in love with the club and all it stands for. The manager and the players certainly appear to want to die trying for the badge. For what we have now I am not disappointed we went down, but it was ultimately on Wards shoulders that we were relegated. Actually, to be fair to Mohammed, he wasn't too bad. Richards had potential and Ward didn't see it and replaced him with that kn0b Gow. Sad what's happened to Richards now. |
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Post by dido on May 23, 2015 13:48:47 GMT
On what do you base calling Gow a kn0b?
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 16:37:25 GMT
On what do you base calling Gow a kn0b? Its fashionable to blame players for their own injuries. |
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Post by buckrippers on May 23, 2015 16:53:37 GMT
Hey, as DC said himself, "Sometimes I get it right, sometimes I get it wrong." I'll say the same. So, I suspect, would John Ward. Just as well for us DC gets it right far more than you do. Me caveman. Ward wrong. DC right. Let's see how we go next season. And the person who said it is about time I praised DC must have missed my blog of two/three weeks ago, thanking him for giving us our Rovers back. Truth is that in Feb/March of the season we came down we had a great run of results. When Ward was 'moved upstairs' we were six points clear of the relegation zone. Still, this is all old news. Let's move on shall we? |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 16:59:24 GMT
Richards had potential and Ward didn't see it and replaced him with that kn0b Gow. The mistake in that deal wasn't swapping Eliot for Gow, it was allowing Exeter to put in a 'no recall' clause. |
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Post by Topper Gas on May 23, 2015 17:04:11 GMT
When we beat Plymouth at home how many fans thought we might make a late bid for a Play Off spot?
The difference this season is DC/NH bought in Lines, last season we didn't do enough before the transfer window closed.
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Post by buckrippers on May 23, 2015 17:34:14 GMT
When we beat Plymouth at home how many fans thought we might make a late bid for a Play Off spot? The difference this season is DC/NH bought in Lines, last season we didn't do enough before the transfer window closed. Spot on Topper. We were crying out for a striker, but all we got was Gillespie late on - and he wasn't fit. I wonder whether Ward shielded the board from criticism... |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 17:35:05 GMT
Ward can go f himself. If only for his disgraceful reaction to relegation. "Oh some people just wanted to have a grumble". Yeah because you half killed our football club you disgrace. What an appalling thing to say, can only assume you didn't realise his wife was diagnosed with cancer mid way through his time as manager. If you were aware and still hold the thought that the FC should have been more important than his wife then I'm speechless. IMO JW was one of the most dignified managers we ever had, he was treated badly the first time around and then the same by the other lot over the river. Then when it went wrong this time due with a life threatening illness looming it wasn't long before the BoD found a scapegoat again, disgraceful way to deal with facing up to their own continual ragbag failures, proper in the gutter reactions with absolutely no compassion for what really matters. |
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Post by brizzle on May 23, 2015 17:53:23 GMT
Ward can go f himself. If only for his disgraceful reaction to relegation. "Oh some people just wanted to have a grumble". Yeah because you half killed our football club you disgrace. What an appalling thing to say, can only assume you didn't realise his wife was diagnosed with cancer mid way through his time as manager. If you were aware and still hold the thought that the FC should have been more important than his wife then I'm speechless. IMO JW was one of the most dignified managers we ever had, he was treated badly the first time around and then the same by the other lot over the river. Then when it went wrong this time due with a life threatening illness looming it wasn't long before the BoD found a scapegoat again, disgraceful way to deal with facing up to their own continual ragbag failures, proper in the gutter reactions with absolutely no compassion for what really matters. Could I ask why you believe that John Ward was ''treated badly the first time around?''
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Post by LPGas on May 23, 2015 18:23:02 GMT
I remember Wards stint at Twerton, and it was bloody boring then. Just look at all the clubs he was sacked from. His brand of football was stuck in the early 90's
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 19:22:45 GMT
Ward can go f himself. If only for his disgraceful reaction to relegation. "Oh some people just wanted to have a grumble". Yeah because you half killed our football club you disgrace. What an appalling thing to say, can only assume you didn't realise his wife was diagnosed with cancer mid way through his time as manager. If you were aware and still hold the thought that the FC should have been more important than his wife then I'm speechless. IMO JW was one of the most dignified managers we ever had, he was treated badly the first time around and then the same by the other lot over the river. Then when it went wrong this time due with a life threatening illness looming it wasn't long before the BoD found a scapegoat again, disgraceful way to deal with facing up to their own continual ragbag failures, proper in the gutter reactions with absolutely no compassion for what really matters. The odd thing with Ward and illness of his wife is that he knew she was ill before the season started and wanted to resign. But was then talked round by the board!! That left me speechless to be honest! Secondly, first time around at Twerton, after leading us to Wembley v Huddersfield it was Ward who treated the Rovers badly pre season by stringing them along in line with the Luton Town managers job which he applied for behind the Rovers backs. The fact is Ward did bugger us up, with a little help, last season. No denying that really. Gentleman John? A cliché perhaps?
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 19:25:33 GMT
When we beat Plymouth at home how many fans thought we might make a late bid for a Play Off spot? The difference this season is DC/NH bought in Lines, last season we didn't do enough before the transfer window closed. And waiting until the transfer window was firmly shut before sending the Lamb to the slaughter! |
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Post by dagnogo on May 24, 2015 18:49:09 GMT
Ward can go f himself. If only for his disgraceful reaction to relegation. "Oh some people just wanted to have a grumble". Yeah because you half killed our football club you disgrace. What an appalling thing to say, can only assume you didn't realise his wife was diagnosed with cancer mid way through his time as manager. If you were aware and still hold the thought that the FC should have been more important than his wife then I'm speechless. IMO JW was one of the most dignified managers we ever had, he was treated badly the first time around and then the same by the other lot over the river. Then when it went wrong this time due with a life threatening illness looming it wasn't long before the BoD found a scapegoat again, disgraceful way to deal with facing up to their own continual ragbag failures, proper in the gutter reactions with absolutely no compassion for what really matters. I didn't know that, no. As someone else said though - why stay in the job especially since he commuted from Birmingham? And why take the DoF job? The man surely has money, he's been a football manager for a quarter of a century, if he thought he couldn't do it, why continue to do it? My post wasn't even referring to how we did on the pitch - if I disliked every bad manager we ever had I wouldn't do anything else - it was his total dismissal of the supporters after Mansfield that disgusted me. "Some people just want to have a grumble" - he's just caused the club to exit the football league after 94 years for goodness sakes! |
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Post by Gregory Stevens on May 24, 2015 19:47:44 GMT
I have conflicting feelings on ward. I'm Ward curious? Metrowardial?
I bat for both sides on this, love the guy but he didn't perform well. Wish his wife the best.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 5:52:58 GMT
Richards had potential and Ward didn't see it and replaced him with that kn0b Gow. The mistake in that deal wasn't swapping Eliot for Gow, it was allowing Exeter to put in a 'no recall' clause. And paying Richards wages during the entire loan |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 18:36:38 GMT
What an appalling thing to say, can only assume you didn't realise his wife was diagnosed with cancer mid way through his time as manager. If you were aware and still hold the thought that the FC should have been more important than his wife then I'm speechless. IMO JW was one of the most dignified managers we ever had, he was treated badly the first time around and then the same by the other lot over the river. Then when it went wrong this time due with a life threatening illness looming it wasn't long before the BoD found a scapegoat again, disgraceful way to deal with facing up to their own continual ragbag failures, proper in the gutter reactions with absolutely no compassion for what really matters. I didn't know that, no. As someone else said though - why stay in the job especially since he commuted from Birmingham? And why take the DoF job? The man surely has money, he's been a football manager for a quarter of a century, if he thought he couldn't do it, why continue to do it? My post wasn't even referring to how we did on the pitch - if I disliked every bad manager we ever had I wouldn't do anything else - it was his total dismissal of the supporters after Mansfield that disgusted me. "Some people just want to have a grumble" - he's just caused the club to exit the football league after 94 years for goodness sakes! You will never convince me that a) one scapegoat should be sought to find someone to blame, and b) a board of directors who hide behind scapegoats, there was no shortage of opportunities for change during his tenure, yet nothing changed. You rightly question why stay in job commute from Birmingham, quick answer is because he was allowed to, as was McGhee who travelled from Brighton and often wasnt even on the team coach at away games, is that JW's fault? I'm yet to see anyone at board level develop a spine and ensure collective responsibility for failings, they were quick enough to be leaping around at Wembley in the same way they leapt on to the pitch at Hartlepool, yet when the going gets tough through lack of leadership throughout the club it all fell down to a man who's wife faced cancer and the BoD sat back and allowed it to fester, despicable behaviour but accepted by many as they are all Gasheads. Still we have had a good season on the pitch and everything is rosey in the garden now, even better we are, apparently about to storm league 2 and wipe the floor with everyone so sit back and enjoy the ride. |
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