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Post by oviedista on Apr 19, 2015 9:42:27 GMT
Why don't you just go back to the gate as I seriously believe that you are a Ted, although an intelligent one, rare I know I agree with Bamber, ( apart from the bit about him being intelligent ). Clarke is a loser. He did what was necessary to get us relegated last season, and he`ll do what is necessary to keep us down this season. His tactics yesterday, cost us the three points. First half, we played 4 3 3, but it might as well have been 4 0 6; our midfield scarcely touched the ball. The ball simply whooshed over their heads, at roughly the same height as the international space station. It was a complete waste of 45 minutes. Second half was a bit better, but to my way of thinking, we still looked a disjointed mess. Both teams were very poor, and when we scored I was more surprised than anything. We then had Balanta on, and Matty Taylor, ( who could have got us a crucial second goal ) was stuck out on the right wing. It was tactics worthy of John Ward at his worst. In the end, we didn`t deserve more than a draw. If anybody thinks that Clarke is capable of getting us out of this division, they only have to look at Nathan Blisset. Part time defenders take the ball off him, as easily as an adult takes a dummy off a baby. An appalling buy. And yet Clarke persists with him. Realistically, it looks like we`re going to be up against F G in the playoffs. I hope I`m wrong, but I can`t see us getting the better of them over two legs. We threw away a great chance yesterday. Threw away a great chance of what? Of being promoted as champions? And yet you describe Clarke as being incapable of getting us out of this division. We are all disappointed in the result and the performance - but it doesn't represent Blisset, Clarke or anyone else in their entirety. Get a grip everyone. BTW "If anybody thinks that Clarke is capable of getting us out of this division, they only have to look at Nathan Blisset" This makes no sense!! |
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Post by Bernard Briggs on Apr 19, 2015 10:35:49 GMT
On paper yesterday's line up with the 3 strikers on the pitch looked like a positive attacking formation to beat up what is a solid Dover defence, what actually happen was the complete opposite, now a point is a point, if we had played with width and lost whilst Barnet got a point that would have been more disappointing. So chin up fellas, karma is due a visit to the men on the last day of the season, make sure you all bring your voices and let's hope we put to bed this nightmare! Are you Clarke in disguise? Sticking Taylor out on the left wing, stranded, was a positive? By passing the, perhaps, most creative player midfielder in the conference by hoofing it to a young striker who stood alone and hardly ever held the ball, and inevitably gave it up. This left the Dover defence able to crowd out our in form striker who hardly ever had a pass to him into space or to his feet. That was positive? No, it was a tactical shambles....instigated by the manager....and not for the first time, is it. A tactical shambles. That`s exactly what it was. That`s the saddest thing about it; Barnet handed us yet another chance to put our destiny in our own hands, and Clarke refused to take that chance with his half witted tactics. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 10:49:13 GMT
Why don't you just go back to the gate as I seriously believe that you are a Ted, although an intelligent one, rare I know What makes you think that Bamber supports a Championship club? His first point is factually correct and his second point is his opinion which he is entitled to. Laughable isn't it? You tell the truth on this forum and that makes you a City fan. I've just checked, 2 thumbs and 8 fingers, my aunt isn't my sister and I don't have an urge to molest crested newts or to vandalise village greens, so I don't think I'm a shed. Clarke has had all the financial support he wanted; Chris Lines, Blissit and Easter demonstrate that. It's not as if he's being asked to get results against teams of postmen and electricians and to do it with a squad full of kids and zero budget. |
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Post by Bernard Briggs on Apr 19, 2015 10:56:55 GMT
I agree with Bamber, ( apart from the bit about him being intelligent ). Clarke is a loser. He did what was necessary to get us relegated last season, and he`ll do what is necessary to keep us down this season. His tactics yesterday, cost us the three points. First half, we played 4 3 3, but it might as well have been 4 0 6; our midfield scarcely touched the ball. The ball simply whooshed over their heads, at roughly the same height as the international space station. It was a complete waste of 45 minutes. Second half was a bit better, but to my way of thinking, we still looked a disjointed mess. Both teams were very poor, and when we scored I was more surprised than anything. We then had Balanta on, and Matty Taylor, ( who could have got us a crucial second goal ) was stuck out on the right wing. It was tactics worthy of John Ward at his worst. In the end, we didn`t deserve more than a draw. If anybody thinks that Clarke is capable of getting us out of this division, they only have to look at Nathan Blisset. Part time defenders take the ball off him, as easily as an adult takes a dummy off a baby. An appalling buy. And yet Clarke persists with him. Realistically, it looks like we`re going to be up against F G in the playoffs. I hope I`m wrong, but I can`t see us getting the better of them over two legs. We threw away a great chance yesterday. BTW "If anybody thinks that Clarke is capable of getting us out of this division, they only have to look at Nathan Blisset" This makes no sense!! Ok, I`ll try to spell it out. Clarke paid money for a player who is clumsy on the ground, ineffective in the air, unable to control the ball, incapable of shielding it from the opposition, and who looks about as likely to score a goal as I am to be appointed Poet Laureate. Even against part time defenders, he looks pitiful. And yet Clarke persists with him. It weakens the team immeasurably. It reduces our chances of scoring goals, and therefore of winning games, and therefore of going up. If Clarke wants to give us the best chance of promotion, Blissett should be dropped. And forgotten. |
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Post by Bernard Briggs on Apr 19, 2015 11:04:12 GMT
What makes you think that Bamber supports a Championship club? His first point is factually correct and his second point is his opinion which he is entitled to. Clarke has had all the financial support he wanted; Chris Lines, Blissit and Easter demonstrate that. It's not as if he's being asked to get results against teams of postmen and electricians and to do it with a squad full of kids and zero budget. Sums it up nicely. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 11:05:57 GMT
Goals we scored yesterday with a direct contribution from Nathan Blissett: 1
Goals we scored yesterday from the rest of the team: 0
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Post by brizzle on Apr 19, 2015 12:08:53 GMT
Goals we scored yesterday with a direct contribution from Nathan Blissett: 1 Goals we scored yesterday from the rest of the team: 0 Nathan Blissett seems to get a fair amount of stick on here, so I'd be interested in your views on him astafjevs (and anyone else with an opinion too). Do you think that he has been a good investment for us so far? Serious question mind. |
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Post by michaelb on Apr 19, 2015 12:12:14 GMT
Goals we scored yesterday with a direct contribution from Nathan Blissett: 1 Goals we scored yesterday from the rest of the team: 0 Nathan Blissett seems to get a fair amount of stick on here, so I'd be interested in your views on him astafjevs (and anyone else with an opinion too). Do you think that he has been a good investment for us so far? Serious question mind. He is work in progress who's best asset at present is his pace which he seldom gets to use |
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Post by brizzle on Apr 19, 2015 12:27:12 GMT
Nathan Blissett seems to get a fair amount of stick on here, so I'd be interested in your views on him astafjevs (and anyone else with an opinion too). Do you think that he has been a good investment for us so far? Serious question mind. He is work in progress who's best asset at present is his pace which he seldom gets to use That's much as I see it, but overall I'm bound to say that he was not the player that we required at the time of his signing. That's not to say that he won't become a half-decent player given time (and coaching), but I still wonder whether he was a good acquisition. Mind you for what we are reported to have paid for his services, I am a little disappointed. I think that what we needed was a ready-made centre forward who could bang in a few goals, not an investment for the future, at least not at that time. |
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Post by oviedista on Apr 19, 2015 12:38:19 GMT
BTW "If anybody thinks that Clarke is capable of getting us out of this division, they only have to look at Nathan Blisset" This makes no sense!! Ok, I`ll try to spell it out. Clarke paid money for a player who is clumsy on the ground, ineffective in the air, unable to control the ball, incapable of shielding it from the opposition, and who looks about as likely to score a goal as I am to be appointed Poet Laureate. Even against part time defenders, he looks pitiful. And yet Clarke persists with him. It weakens the team immeasurably. It reduces our chances of scoring goals, and therefore of winning games, and therefore of going up. If Clarke wants to give us the best chance of promotion, Blissett should be dropped. And forgotten. Still makes no sense A) He also signed Stuart Sinclair. This doesn't make him a great manager either. B) Blissett has had good games and bad, has scored and set up goals. He may yet improve. He may not. Anyway all managers, however great, sign duds. This is in no way shape or form a basis to judge a manager. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 12:45:00 GMT
Ok, I`ll try to spell it out. Clarke paid money for a player who is clumsy on the ground, ineffective in the air, unable to control the ball, incapable of shielding it from the opposition, and who looks about as likely to score a goal as I am to be appointed Poet Laureate. Even against part time defenders, he looks pitiful. And yet Clarke persists with him. It weakens the team immeasurably. It reduces our chances of scoring goals, and therefore of winning games, and therefore of going up. If Clarke wants to give us the best chance of promotion, Blissett should be dropped. And forgotten. Still makes no sense A) He also signed Stuart Sinclair. This doesn't make him a great manager either. B) Blissett has had good games and bad, has scored and set up goals. He may yet improve. He may not. Anyway all managers, however great, sign duds. This is in no way shape or form a basis to judge a manager. Personally I think Clarke has put together a squad of a decent standard. I didnt think so at the start, but they do appear together. But he did fail to secure a proven goalscorer. But, for me, its his tactics and the way he sets his players up. Just too defensive. |
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Post by oviedista on Apr 19, 2015 12:46:53 GMT
RE: The Postmen and electricians cliche.
Can we stop this now? These are decent jobs that can pay well. At the lower end of the league system going professional may not be the best choice financially or in terms of career trajectory. Many part timers are quality players who value their own careers outside football, and the money they can make there. The disadvantage may only be in terms of fitness. Many full time players at this level are gambling on reaching a higher level. They may be wrong.
An electrician is just a job someone has - it doesn't hinder their skills.
P.S If you have to keep churning this out mix it up a bit - nurses, sales reps, security consultants. Use your imagination.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 12:52:09 GMT
RE: The Postmen and electricians cliche. Can we stop this now? These are decent jobs that can pay well. At the lower end of the league system going professional may not be the best choice financially or in terms of career trajectory. Many part timers are quality players who value their own careers outside football, and the money they can make there. The disadvantage may only be in terms of fitness. Many full time players at this level are gambling on reaching a higher level. They may be wrong. An electrician is just a job someone has - it doesn't hinder their skills. P.S If you have to keep churning this out mix it up a bit - nurses, sales reps, security consultants. Use your imagination. Postman,is it good pay ?,anyway after his post round I doubt that he feels like doing the training that a full time professional should be doing. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 12:52:42 GMT
Goals we scored yesterday with a direct contribution from Nathan Blissett: 1 Goals we scored yesterday from the rest of the team: 0 Nathan Blissett seems to get a fair amount of stick on here, so I'd be interested in your views on him astafjevs (and anyone else with an opinion too). Do you think that he has been a good investment for us so far? Serious question mind. I like him. He's very raw but is capable of sublime touches as well as horrendous ones. He's got to learn to use his physical assets (height, strength and pace) to his advantage better, but from what I've seen when we create chances for him he takes them more often than not. I think he suffers from the fact that the older fans want him to be Devon White. He isn't and never will be, but he's got all he needs to be a decent lower division striker, in my opinion. |
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Post by oviedista on Apr 19, 2015 12:57:42 GMT
RE: The Postmen and electricians cliche. Can we stop this now? These are decent jobs that can pay well. At the lower end of the league system going professional may not be the best choice financially or in terms of career trajectory. Many part timers are quality players who value their own careers outside football, and the money they can make there. The disadvantage may only be in terms of fitness. Many full time players at this level are gambling on reaching a higher level. They may be wrong. An electrician is just a job someone has - it doesn't hinder their skills. P.S If you have to keep churning this out mix it up a bit - nurses, sales reps, security consultants. Use your imagination. Postman,is it good pay ?,anyway after his post round I doubt that he feels like doing the training that a full time professional should be doing. Is it lower than the lowest pay for a full time footballer? Many postman are naturally fit - obviously still a disadvantage but not the 'bloke turning up for a kick around' idea that some have. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 12:57:59 GMT
Nathan Blissett seems to get a fair amount of stick on here, so I'd be interested in your views on him astafjevs (and anyone else with an opinion too). Do you think that he has been a good investment for us so far? Serious question mind. He is work in progress who's best asset at present is his pace which he seldom gets to use When Blissett gets mentioned people always seem to add that "he is a work in progress" or that he is "raw",if that's true why is he playing at the critical point of a most important season?. Surely we should be waiting for him to be turned into the finished article by our renowned coaching staff.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 12:59:30 GMT
He is work in progress who's best asset at present is his pace which he seldom gets to use When Blissett gets mentioned people always seem to add that "he is a work in progress" or that he is "raw",if that's true why is he playing at the critical point of a most important season?. Surely we should be waiting for him to be turned into the finished article by our renowned coaching staff.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 13:01:19 GMT
Postman,is it good pay ?,anyway after his post round I doubt that he feels like doing the training that a full time professional should be doing. Is it lower than the lowest pay for a full time footballer? Many postman are naturally fit - obviously still a disadvantage but not the 'bloke turning up for a kick around' idea that some have. Loads of blokes are naturally fit but that will not make them good footballers,whats the point in having full time professionals ? surely so that they can spend their days training and having coaching ?,you seem to be saying that's not an advantage. |
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Post by oviedista on Apr 19, 2015 13:06:00 GMT
Is it lower than the lowest pay for a full time footballer? Many postman are naturally fit - obviously still a disadvantage but not the 'bloke turning up for a kick around' idea that some have. Loads of blokes are naturally fit but that will not make them good footballers,whats the point in having full time professionals ? surely so that they can spend their days training and having coaching ?,you seem to be saying that's not an advantage. Clearly said it's IS an advantage - but that at this level it can be more about fitness, potential to improve - they may not necessarily be better quality players. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 13:06:43 GMT
When Blissett gets mentioned people always seem to add that "he is a work in progress" or that he is "raw",if that's true why is he playing at the critical point of a most important season?. Surely we should be waiting for him to be turned into the finished article by our renowned coaching staff.
eh? How many decades has it been since Rovers had the luxury of only employing finished articles? When did we ever employ only finished articles ?,the difference then was that prospective first team players could get a professional contract so that they could train full time and then play their way up into the first team,the lack of a reserve team needs to be sorted out. Whether Blissett would have gone through that process and become a good player I don't know,he seems to lack the basic skills like ball control.
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