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Post by chelt_gas on Feb 13, 2015 21:05:24 GMT
There's a phone call for you mr ward....
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Post by Wreckless on Feb 13, 2015 22:11:12 GMT
There's a phone call for you mr ward....
Yes John, please comeback to us. We miss you and you still have unfinished business at the Mem!
or perhaps I have misunderstood the intention behind this post.......?
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Post by Bridgeman on Feb 13, 2015 22:22:49 GMT
Please go to Newport...please go to Newport...please go to Newport. Oi !
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Post by faggotygas on Feb 13, 2015 22:35:00 GMT
Certainly comes across as an extremely arrogant individual. His 'my way or the high way' style doesn't seem to wash with anyone. Unfortunatly (for him), it doesn't seem like he will ever change his ways. The guy won't ever properly make it in that management game. I think you are right. This is a quote from a Cheltenham supporter on the Gloucestershire Echo website this morning:-
"Thank goodness. It was like watching a min-version of Martin Allen's reign. How to arrive at a club, gut it, recruit wildly, throw it all up in the air, see how it lands. No plan, no method"
Read more: www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Manager-Paul-Buckle-departs-Cheltenham-Town-s/story-26021584-detail/story.html#ixzz3RcySU61N
Exactly the same methods he so successfully employed here then! I wonder if he called their fans thick peasants too?
Exactly what Dave Penney did, but apparently that's Stuart Campbell's fault
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Post by faggotygas on Feb 13, 2015 22:37:07 GMT
SSN saying he's gone by mutual consent. That always baffles me "Mutual Consent". If the club wanted him to stay it would be termed "Resigned" so whatever words they want to use the truth is the club wanted rid. So why are they trying to suggest that they would have kept him on if he wanted to stay? Just means that compensation for ending the contract early has been agreed
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Post by mehewmagic on Feb 14, 2015 0:32:56 GMT
There's a phone call for you mr ward.... don't answer it John! you really don't want 4 failures in a row at the end of your career
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Post by dagnogo on Feb 14, 2015 9:37:51 GMT
Buckle may never manage another football club again.
Paul Baker should have picked the phone up and called Nick Owen, or indeed Nick Higgs.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2015 9:48:55 GMT
Buckle may never manage another football club again. Paul Baker should have picked the phone up and called Nick Owen, or indeed Nick Higgs. Perhaps he did?
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Post by dagnogo on Feb 14, 2015 10:08:29 GMT
Buckle may never manage another football club again. Paul Baker should have picked the phone up and called Nick Owen, or indeed Nick Higgs. Perhaps he did? If he did then he wasn't listening.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2015 10:29:32 GMT
If he did then he wasn't listening. Well, it would appear that both Higgs and Baker barking mad: But Baker is positive what happened at Rovers was an isolated problem and has had reassurance from Bristol chairman Nick Higgs. “It’s interesting - what happened at Rovers - but it just seems to be graveyard for managers,” he said. “I had a good chat with Nick Higgs and while it was difficult for Paul there, he was very complimentary about him and some of the signings he bought to Rovers who have done very well for the club. “Having thought I would get a negative response, I didn’t and I understood more of the reasons why it didn't work out down there. “He's a young manager learning all the time, in the same way any other manager would, and he’s still got more learning to do. “But he comes here having already worked with Shaun North so you have that continuity and that will help speed up the process.
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Post by dagnogo on Feb 14, 2015 10:31:03 GMT
That confirms it, Nick is mad as a box of frogs.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 14, 2015 14:48:04 GMT
That confirms it, Nick is mad as a box of frogs. You needed confirmation ? Wow !
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Post by frenchgashead on Feb 16, 2015 7:04:51 GMT
What gets me is why club owners continue to employ managers who've already shown they are incompetent. There are loads of managers that simply aren't any good but keep on getting jobs - remember B. Robson who was hopeless at Middlesborough but still kept getting jobs after that fiasco? I'm sure we could all come up with a long list of similarly useless managers.
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Post by lympstonegas on Feb 16, 2015 14:48:09 GMT
Some would have DC for taking us down - ducks quickly
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2015 15:05:11 GMT
Ward looks a cert for the DoF job, brings a lot of experience at getting relegated in that position.
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Post by brizzle on Feb 16, 2015 15:14:35 GMT
What gets me is why club owners continue to employ managers who've already shown they are incompetent. There are loads of managers that simply aren't any good but keep on getting jobs - remember B. Robson who was hopeless at Middlesborough but still kept getting jobs after that fiasco? I'm sure we could all come up with a long list of similarly useless managers. . . . and there are others who couldn't get a club for love nor money. I'm thinking here of Bobby Moore, who it seemed to me had a perfect pedigree, temperament and playing background to do a decent job as a manager. He played well over 500 games for West Ham winning the FA Cup, the Cup Winners Cup and was named Footballer Of The Year. As an England international he won 108 caps (90 as captain), and of course he was captain of the 1966 World Cup team. Yet despite all of that he couldn't get a job as a Football League manager, well not until Southend United appointed him, but I have always believed that this was too little too late. It's true that his playing performances couldn't guarantee success as a manager, but I've always thought that he was worth a punt by someone.
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Post by irishrover on Feb 16, 2015 16:06:55 GMT
What gets me is why club owners continue to employ managers who've already shown they are incompetent. There are loads of managers that simply aren't any good but keep on getting jobs - remember B. Robson who was hopeless at Middlesborough but still kept getting jobs after that fiasco? I'm sure we could all come up with a long list of similarly useless managers. . . . and there are others who couldn't get a club for love nor money. I'm thinking here of Bobby Moore, who it seemed to me had a perfect pedigree, temperament and playing background to do a decent job as a manager. He played well over 500 games for West Ham winning the FA Cup, the Cup Winners Cup and was named Footballer Of The Year. As an England international he won 108 caps (90 as captain), and of course he was captain of the 1966 World Cup team. Yet despite all of that he couldn't get a job as a Football League manager, well not until Southend United appointed him, but I have always believed that this was too little too late. It's true that his playing performances couldn't guarantee success as a manager, but I've always thought that he was worth a punt by someone. I read that Bobby Moore didn't really want to be a manager; that he could make more money doing other things and that he only really took the manager's jobs that he did as a favour to certain people who were connected with those clubs (I mean he managed a few games in non-league which is definitely something he didn't have to do). I'm not sure he really had any ambition in that direction or he could have had the West Ham job any time he wanted it. It's interesting that of the '66 team only Jack Charlton really had much of a run as a manager. Most of them had brief goes but none of them were really successful - Hurst and Bobby Charlton were very notable failures in the dugout. Even Jack Charlton had something of a patchy management career though - with Ireland he was a huge success but as a club manager his record was very ropey. I don't think they needed to be football managers - after all it wasn't a particularly well paid job for most of that period and they could just dine of the opportunities that the World Cup win gave them.
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Post by dagnogo on Feb 16, 2015 16:13:28 GMT
I think Moore's success actually counted against him.
In the 70s and 80s managers all tended to manage at lower league level first - no Tim Sherwood types getting jobs in the top flight.
So you'd have a load of lads in the old Div 3, not on great money, who'd be managed by a World Cup winning captain and national hero - imagine us, in League 2, and David Beckham* is unveiled at the press call - imagine the attention on the club. The players would be starstruck, plus there's the possibility that he's been appointed for commercial reasons rather than because he's a good coach.
That said, the way English football treated Moore was a disgrace - the FA and West Ham could've found a position for him.
* - Not saying Beckham is as good - but just as famous.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2015 16:25:28 GMT
Successful playing careers rarely make for a successful managerial career. For every Ancelotti & Guardiola there's a Seedorf, Shearer, Keane, Lambert, Ince, Robson, etc.
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Post by Curly Wurly on Feb 16, 2015 16:28:48 GMT
That confirms it, Nick is mad as a box of frogs. Well done Nick - giving Buckle a glowing recommendation to a rival, just to get them relagated. Seems like planning and foresight to me....
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