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Post by clockendgas on Jan 14, 2015 20:50:55 GMT
must be the end of the road for ollie tonight? not looking clever
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Post by harrybuckle on Jan 14, 2015 21:14:11 GMT
4-0 down at Bradford City in Cup replay ...his days are numbered
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Post by lostinspace on Jan 14, 2015 21:20:50 GMT
a poor set of players there, he doesn;t seem to have been able to generate anything in the set-up at all...and would be surprised to see him there much longer, interesting to see that Paul Jewell has been ousted at WBA, possible opportunity there to engage him, been known to work the odd miracle... as that is what Millwall need at the moment
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jan 14, 2015 21:32:22 GMT
Maybe he could sign Akinde?
Two birds, one stone and all that..
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jan 14, 2015 21:34:01 GMT
Maybe he could sign Akinde? Two birds, one stone and all that.. (!) |
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Jan 14, 2015 21:34:25 GMT
Millwall fans won't forgive Ollie for missing the chance to have a good row with Chelsea.
He's a goner.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 14, 2015 21:37:11 GMT
He was talking about getting a bunch of new players in this window, so it's tomorrow or wait till the end of the season, istm.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 23:52:01 GMT
An ex-player, without a club, with a thread on here.
Could he do a job in midfield?
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Post by irishrover on Jan 15, 2015 0:19:13 GMT
Yep - if they stick with Ollie in this position then they are demonstrating a restraint that board and owners rarely seem to show. I thought it was a strange career move when he went there - not really sure what you can do with Millwall in the Championship. Surely they will always be likely to struggle and the manager will be the easy scapegoat. 2 promotions from the Championship on his CV so you'd think he could have done better if he'd waited a few months but maybe he wanted to stay in London.
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Post by mehewmagic on Jan 15, 2015 0:21:03 GMT
An ex-player, without a club, with a thread on here. Could he do a job in midfield? why not go the whole hog and get Gerry Francis back in the middle!  |
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Post by mehewmagic on Jan 15, 2015 0:25:10 GMT
must be the end of the road for ollie tonight? not looking clever hmmm. I've been thinking this for a while now but didn;t really want to start a thread on it / wasn't sure where to put it etc. tonight tops it off like a huge cherry on a cake. he's been dead man walking for a while now. just a matter of time I think. It's always feast or famine for Ollie teams. rarely anything in the middle. I don;t think he handles pressure well really. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2015 1:16:18 GMT
Oh well.. He doesn't give a hoot about rovers anymore so who cares!
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Post by crater on Jan 15, 2015 5:47:06 GMT
Oh well.. He doesn't give a hoot about rovers anymore so who cares! And you know that for a fact because??? |
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Post by irishrover on Jan 15, 2015 12:53:50 GMT
must be the end of the road for ollie tonight? not looking clever hmmm. I've been thinking this for a while now but didn;t really want to start a thread on it / wasn't sure where to put it etc. tonight tops it off like a huge cherry on a cake. he's been dead man walking for a while now. just a matter of time I think. It's always feast or famine for Ollie teams. rarely anything in the middle. I don;t think he handles pressure well really. I think this is true - his career suggests that he's not very good at turning around a sinking ship. Even last year at Millwall they barely clung on and were closer to relegation at the end of the season than they were when he originally came in and every other time he's been in a proper relegation scrap his team has gone down or he's been sacked. It's obviously not what he's cut out to do. You can pretty much hear it in his voice; he sounds just like he did at Leicester and when we ended up sliding. I think he has difficulty motivating players when their confidence has gone or when their heart isn't quite in it and they're hearing it from the fans because he genuinely can't understand why a player wouldn't be 100% committed all the time. I also don't think his tactical approach works in that situation either because it relies on players being confident on the ball and if that's gone then you need to be a bit more basic. He's clearly brilliant at generating and sustaining an atmosphere of positivity when teams are going well and getting the best out of quite average players when the side is doing well. But I don't think he's the manager you want for a backs to the wall relegation dogfight; odd really given he was exactly the player you would have wanted for that situation. It kind of worries me; because should he ever return to Rovers I could see it being on a short term SOS basis and I'm not sure he'd be the man we'd want in that scenario. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2015 13:28:14 GMT
Ollie played 397 games for Rovers scoring 41 goals according to wikipedia, worth a punt surely?
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Post by brizzle on Jan 15, 2015 14:12:35 GMT
hmmm. I've been thinking this for a while now but didn;t really want to start a thread on it / wasn't sure where to put it etc. tonight tops it off like a huge cherry on a cake. he's been dead man walking for a while now. just a matter of time I think. It's always feast or famine for Ollie teams. rarely anything in the middle. I don;t think he handles pressure well really. I think this is true - his career suggests that he's not very good at turning around a sinking ship. Even last year at Millwall they barely clung on and were closer to relegation at the end of the season than they were when he originally came in and every other time he's been in a proper relegation scrap his team has gone down or he's been sacked. It's obviously not what he's cut out to do. You can pretty much hear it in his voice; he sounds just like he did at Leicester and when we ended up sliding. I think he has difficulty motivating players when their confidence has gone or when their heart isn't quite in it and they're hearing it from the fans because he genuinely can't understand why a player wouldn't be 100% committed all the time. I also don't think his tactical approach works in that situation either because it relies on players being confident on the ball and if that's gone then you need to be a bit more basic. He's clearly brilliant at generating and sustaining an atmosphere of positivity when teams are going well and getting the best out of quite average players when the side is doing well. But I don't think he's the manager you want for a backs to the wall relegation dogfight; odd really given he was exactly the player you would have wanted for that situation. It kind of worries me; because should he ever return to Rovers I could see it being on a short term SOS basis and I'm not sure he'd be the man we'd want in that scenario.Good post that, it's well thought out which is not something that you always get when Holloway's name is mentioned on here. We normally get a knee-jerk reaction in both directions, both for and against. But I'm intrigued to see what would happen if his position at Millwall was terminated, as to how that news would be received by supporters of BRFC. Would there be a clamour to have him installed as manager here asap, or would the supporters of Darrell Clark win the day? Or perhaps the general view would be that the club should wait until the end of the season before making a decision, thereby backing both horses. Personally I think that the only way that he could ever be lured back to BRFC is in the event of a takeover of the club, and he would return as part of the consortium that had purchased the club. Who knows, he might even fancy a job as the Director of Football. But for me his time with BRFC has come and gone, there's been too much water under the bridge. |
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Post by irishrover on Jan 15, 2015 14:41:53 GMT
I think this is true - his career suggests that he's not very good at turning around a sinking ship. Even last year at Millwall they barely clung on and were closer to relegation at the end of the season than they were when he originally came in and every other time he's been in a proper relegation scrap his team has gone down or he's been sacked. It's obviously not what he's cut out to do. You can pretty much hear it in his voice; he sounds just like he did at Leicester and when we ended up sliding. I think he has difficulty motivating players when their confidence has gone or when their heart isn't quite in it and they're hearing it from the fans because he genuinely can't understand why a player wouldn't be 100% committed all the time. I also don't think his tactical approach works in that situation either because it relies on players being confident on the ball and if that's gone then you need to be a bit more basic. He's clearly brilliant at generating and sustaining an atmosphere of positivity when teams are going well and getting the best out of quite average players when the side is doing well. But I don't think he's the manager you want for a backs to the wall relegation dogfight; odd really given he was exactly the player you would have wanted for that situation. It kind of worries me; because should he ever return to Rovers I could see it being on a short term SOS basis and I'm not sure he'd be the man we'd want in that scenario.Good post that, it's well thought out which is not something that you always get when Holloway's name is mentioned on here. We normally get a knee-jerk reaction in both directions, both for and against. But I'm intrigued to see what would happen if his position at Millwall was terminated, as to how that news would be received by supporters of BRFC. Would there be a clamour to have him installed as manager here asap, or would the supporters of Darrell Clark win the day? Or perhaps the general view would be that the club should wait until the end of the season before making a decision, thereby backing both horses. Personally I think that the only way that he could ever be lured back to BRFC is in the event of a takeover of the club, and he would return as part of the consortium that had purchased the club. Who knows, he might even fancy a job as the Director of Football. But for me his time with BRFC has come and gone, there's been too much water under the bridge. I'm thinking quite a bit further down the road really. If Ollie gets canned he still has an awful lot of credit in the bank; any manager who has 2 promotions to the Premiership on his CV is going to be an attractive proposition. Plus he is one of those guys who through personality will increase the profile of your club and generally go down well with supporters (though probably not at Millwall right now). I don't see him coming back to us and we'd be crazy to replace Clarke at this stage with anyone. I'm more thinking along the hypothetical lines of some point in the future we're in relegation battle while Ollie finds himself out of work. That is a scenario in which you can imagine a clamour for him to lead us to safety and sometimes you have to be careful what you wish for because his record suggests that he doesn't have that club in his bag. I'd be perfectly happy to have Holloway in charge of Rovers again but I'd want it to be a young Rovers side that was a bit raw but had some raw talent that was desperate to prove itself - that's where I think he's good. He's not an SOS type manager. |
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Post by lockleazer on Jan 15, 2015 14:45:45 GMT
Gillingham job is available if ollie was sacked ? Ollie and Paul Scally would be an interesting possibly explosive combanation!
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Post by DudeLebowski on Jan 15, 2015 15:55:44 GMT
Saw Millwall play Forest earlier in the season.
An awful, awful game. The start of Forests bad patch & Millwall were clueless from start to finish. Not surprised to see them in the s**t.
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Post by mehewmagic on Jan 15, 2015 16:00:00 GMT
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