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Post by faggotygas on Dec 30, 2014 13:30:25 GMT
gone past the point of reading them, just the latest rumour one was there and tagged this to show my annoyance at not being told that Sainsbury's WILL START BUILDING VERY SOON AFTER EVERYTHING IS SORTED,,,, that info is from a very reliable sauce [row 4- savouries and ice cream...... not in the same packet i hasten to add Hope not, we need to move out first
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Post by Alveston Gas on Dec 30, 2014 13:31:18 GMT
I too have heard the name Icon Venue Group mentioned. Project Management support for new Stadia and Venues! Now you mention it I am slightly suprised to have heard the same from an entirely independent 3rd party.
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Post by Peter Parker on Dec 30, 2014 14:22:01 GMT
Hi Sorry guys as many of you have suggested, there is absolutely no truth in this story at at all! Roll on for 3 more points v Torquay. best wishes BSS Could you comment on the SC allegedly being asked to give the club money?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 15:12:45 GMT
Hi Sorry guys as many of you have suggested, there is absolutely no truth in this story at at all! Roll on for 3 more points v Torquay. best wishes BSS Could you comment on the SC allegedly being asked to give the club money? More importantly, there is no truth in the rumour that Sainsburys can't pull out as disclosed by Colin Williams on Boxing Day. So the contract isn't watertight.
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Post by brizzle on Dec 30, 2014 15:49:12 GMT
Could you comment on the SC allegedly being asked to give the club money? More importantly, there is no truth in the rumour that Sainsburys can't pull out as disclosed by Colin Williams on Boxing Day. So the contract isn't watertight. With all due respect to you holmes, how do you know that the rumour isn't true, and that the contract isn't watertight? Or are you just throwing pebbles into the pool, to watch the ripples? In a pleasant way, of course.
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Post by swissgas on Dec 30, 2014 16:18:44 GMT
Hi Sorry guys as many of you have suggested, there is absolutely no truth in this story at at all! Roll on for 3 more points v Torquay. best wishes BSS "sainsburys can 'NOT' now pull out. he said that rovers have it so tightly wrapped up it would cost sainsburys to much to back out. he went on to say that higgs is ready to hang up his gloves as soon at the sainsburys deal is complete, as he just wants to re coupe the investment he has put in over the years.? apparently he has already put the club out to tender to venture capitalists for a take over invester, which could result in all kinds of intrest....including foreign investment??? " Is this the part of the story which has no truth in it Brian ?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 16:28:23 GMT
Neil,from what i have heard almost all of it is true
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Post by RG2 Gas on Dec 30, 2014 16:48:56 GMT
Neil,from what i have heard almost all of it is true *Almost*? Let me guess, the bit about the water tight contract is the untrue bit ... ;-)
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Post by swissgas on Dec 30, 2014 17:09:44 GMT
Neil,from what i have heard almost all of it is true I wonder why BSS has said it's not true then ? In my experience putting a business "out to tender to venture capitalists" is a fairly costly exercise in itself and perhaps that is why there is apparently a need for 250K cash from the supporters club ? To do the job properly you have to present a convincing document which is backed up by credible independent evidence and that costs a lot of money. Before any deal is concluded with Sainsburys anyone looking at this will first have to determine a realistic estimate of what that deal is going to bring to Rovers in cash terms. Then they will have to calculate how much extra cash is needed to complete the UWE Stadium construction project. And finally they will have to assess how much cash is needed for working capital to finance Bristol Rovers at the UWE Stadium. Having ascertained the cash requirements they will then make a risk and reward analysis and find out whether the figures in the Rovers sales prospectus stack up. I've talked to many people about Rovers and one in particular stood out to me when he said "we buy other people's mistakes". Unfortunately he quickly followed this up by saying "but we don't pay over the odds for them" I hope Nick doesn't prejudice any deal which would be in Rovers long term interests by demanding his cash back in full.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 17:10:46 GMT
More importantly, there is no truth in the rumour that Sainsburys can't pull out as disclosed by Colin Williams on Boxing Day. So the contract isn't watertight. With all due respect to you holmes, how do you know that the rumour isn't true, and that the contract isn't watertight? Or are you just throwing pebbles into the pool, to watch the ripples? In a pleasant way, of course. Because BSS has said that the OP's post isn't true. I haven't got a bleedin clue but he should seeing that he is a director.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Dec 30, 2014 17:14:50 GMT
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Post by gashead01 on Dec 30, 2014 17:17:07 GMT
With all due respect to you holmes, how do you know that the rumour isn't true, and that the contract isn't watertight? Or are you just throwing pebbles into the pool, to watch the ripples? In a pleasant way, of course. Because BSS has said that the OP's post isn't true. I haven't got a bleedin clue but he should seeing that he is a director. but would he say any different under the circumstances??
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Post by brizzle on Dec 30, 2014 17:19:18 GMT
With all due respect to you holmes, how do you know that the rumour isn't true, and that the contract isn't watertight? Or are you just throwing pebbles into the pool, to watch the ripples? In a pleasant way, of course. Because BSS has said that the OP's post isn't true. I haven't got a bleedin clue but he should seeing that he is a director. I take your point holmes, but did BSS really (mean to) say that the Sainsbury's contract wasn't watertight? If he did, then he can surely expect the Directors equivalent of his P45.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 17:23:22 GMT
Because BSS has said that the OP's post isn't true. I haven't got a bleedin clue but he should seeing that he is a director. but would he say any different under the circumstances?? Eh? I'm getting bloody confused myself now. Why has Brian broken his veil of silence to condemn your opening post as being untrue? Either the points you raised are true or not. Interesting that the one point about Sainsburys which everbody has been interested in for what seems like an eternity was included in Brian's declaration of it being untrue. I actually believe what you have said in your OP but I think there might have been a few tongue in cheek comments made by those at Yate on Boxing Day.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 17:25:32 GMT
Because BSS has said that the OP's post isn't true. I haven't got a bleedin clue but he should seeing that he is a director. I take your point holmes, but did BSS really (mean to) say that the Sainsbury's contract wasn't watertight? If he did, then he can surely expect the Directors equivalent of his P45. Well he doesn't say much does he and now you are suggesting that when he does speak he doesn't mean what he says. confused.com
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Post by badbloodash on Dec 30, 2014 17:35:06 GMT
I too have heard the name Icon Venue Group mentioned. Project Management support for new Stadia and Venues! Now you mention it I am slightly suprised to have heard the same from an entirely independent 3rd party. So helping develop the nou camp and uwe we are using our game considerably
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Post by brizzle on Dec 30, 2014 17:43:30 GMT
Neil,from what i have heard almost all of it is true I wonder why BSS has said it's not true then ? In my experience putting a business "out to tender to venture capitalists" is a fairly costly exercise in itself and perhaps that is why there is apparently a need for 250K cash from the supporters club ? To do the job properly you have to present a convincing document which is backed up by credible independent evidence and that costs a lot of money. Before any deal is concluded with Sainsburys anyone looking at this will first have to determine a realistic estimate of what that deal is going to bring to Rovers in cash terms. Then they will have to calculate how much extra cash is needed to complete the UWE Stadium construction project. And finally they will have to assess how much cash is needed for working capital to finance Bristol Rovers at the UWE Stadium. Having ascertained the cash requirements they will then make a risk and reward analysis and find out whether the figures in the Rovers sales prospectus stack up. I've talked to many people about Rovers and one in particular stood out to me when he said "we buy other people's mistakes". Unfortunately he quickly followed this up by saying "but we don't pay over the odds for them" I hope Nick doesn't prejudice any deal which would be in Rovers long term interests by demanding his cash back in full. That sounds a bit like when the club was unofficially put up for sale a few years back, if you remember. Déjà vu perhaps ?
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Post by gashead01 on Dec 30, 2014 17:44:27 GMT
but would he say any different under the circumstances?? Eh? I'm getting bloody confused myself now. Why has Brian broken his veil of silence to condemn your opening post as being untrue? Either the points you raised are true or not. Interesting that the one point about Sainsburys which everbody has been interested in for what seems like an eternity was included in Brian's declaration of it being untrue. I actually believe what you have said in your OP but I think there might have been a few tongue in cheek comments made by those at Yate on Boxing Day. to be honest im not sure which part of my opening thread brian is refereeing too as untrue? if its all then I can reassure him the conversation took place. the conversation was between a group of blokes putting there views across on the sainsburys buy out...one of which was mr Williams, and others. now I don't know how much of what was said is true? im not privileged to such information. but I cant imagine brian coming on an open forum and discussing the whole subject? so he may just want to nip rumours in the bud by saying not true? be nice to know what part of the rumour was untrue though??
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 17:50:19 GMT
Well it's good to see that our board representative's intervention has clarified everything then
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Post by badbloodash on Dec 30, 2014 17:55:50 GMT
Well it's good to see that our board representative's intervention has clarified everything then Perhaps I reading it wrong but is not bss commenting on sc loaning money and not op as he is sc representive and would only be able to comment on sc business
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