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Post by fanatical on Dec 14, 2014 9:01:24 GMT
Four changes with only one which was forced because of injury.
WHY?
Was it because DC was saving some players because there is a more important game on Friday?
Was it because DC thinks the players are tired because they have played too many games recently?
Was it because DC thought he needed to look at some fringe players before January and this was a suitable game to do so?
MY VIEW - you always the best team available to you as winning comes from playing together as much as possible and you only make
changes when you HAVE to. Tiredness is never a factor unless you play a team substantially better than you.
Bath were a good example of a team who play together every possible game because they knew where their fellow players were at all times for a pass and consequently out thought and outplayed Rovers.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 14, 2014 9:17:30 GMT
I think you are overlooking this was a meaningless game, if we win on Friday then DC will have got it spot on in MY VIEW.
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Post by The Man from Del Monte on Dec 14, 2014 10:46:23 GMT
To say it was a meaningless game is an insult to the fans who turned up to pay their hard earned money yesterday.
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Post by fanatical on Dec 14, 2014 10:55:33 GMT
I think you are overlooking this was a meaningless game, if we win on Friday then DC will have got it spot on in MY VIEW. You obviously don't have to pay the wages every opportunity to earn revenue is important to our club and yesterdays result destroys any chance of extra income this season |
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Post by biggsy on Dec 14, 2014 11:02:51 GMT
It was a Non-League cup tie,We are a non-league Club, we should have been looking to win it.We should always show respect to the league we are in and the opposition we play.
We had five first choice players missing plus LDV who surely would have played but thats no excuse,the replacemnts wernt kids and if it proved one thing its the overall squad isnt good enough enough,we look even less like scoring than we did at the beginning of the season,we create little and my fear is that if the rumours are true and Tubbs is joining us in January he wont do much better than the present strikers as there's no supply.
Someone said recently that the defence was created by previous managers and the rest of the team was created by Clarke, well Mansell and Sinclar apart the rest are less than inspiring. Clarke said back in August that he would put a team out that would score lots of goals,28 in 27 league and cup games just isnt good enough,lets hope he addresses the problem in January else we can forget even the play-offs.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2014 13:04:51 GMT
i said before the game dc should pick his strongest team and i think it was a mistake not too,,i feel he took a gamble that backfired badly and must surely impact on the clubs ability to sign players in january due to loss of revenue.
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Post by gashead01 on Dec 14, 2014 14:00:52 GMT
I think you are overlooking this was a meaningless game, if we win on Friday then DC will have got it spot on in MY VIEW. according to DC..... he was taking yesterdays game very seriously and wanted to progress in the competition?? |
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Post by irishrover on Dec 14, 2014 14:09:36 GMT
To say it was a meaningless game is an insult to the fans who turned up to pay their hard earned money yesterday. Quite right. |
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Post by crater on Dec 14, 2014 14:16:54 GMT
I paid to watch the game yesterday but I'm really not that bothered we lost.
If we had drawn how many changes would there have been for a replay 3 days before an all important league game?
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 14, 2014 17:00:56 GMT
To say it was a meaningless game is an insult to the fans who turned up to pay their hard earned money yesterday. Why, I paid but I couldn't careless if we win the cup or not, all I want is to get promoted this season. As far as it effecting player recruitment surely the only way it's going to effect that is if we get to the final and we can't take that into consideration in January by the time we could the season would be virtually ever? We've possibly lost Blisset for at least Friday's game how many players could we potentially lose before a Wembley final. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2014 18:24:56 GMT
It really didn't need to be a meaningless game though. Winning the Trophy means an extra seven games on top of a season of fifty games roughly, and it could have generated some good feelings around the club if the worst happened, and you didn't go up.
I've said before that winning the FA Trophy in 2002 was a massive boost to our club as a whole and that team in particular. In the fourth round, we were 3-0 down to Doncaster with half an hour left and ended up winning 5-4. We then went on to lift the Trophy at Villa Park and the belief, the team spirit and the knowledge that everyone was fighting for each other was massively boosted by the Trophy win. Other teams have managed tilts at two competitions.... Cambridge United went through the playoffs last season having won the Trophy too. It doesn't have to be a distraction if you don't want it to.
After all, the last time you won promotion, you got to the Johnstone's Paint Trophy Final too, didn't you? Okay, it was a loss but I'm sure if anything the appearance in the Final would have helped the players when they then played the playoff final a few weeks later. Genuinely can't see why you would turn your nose up at winning a competition you were equipped to win.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2014 18:40:03 GMT
It really didn't need to be a meaningless game though. Winning the Trophy means an extra seven games on top of a season of fifty games roughly, and it could have generated some good feelings around the club if the worst happened, and you didn't go up. I've said before that winning the FA Trophy in 2002 was a massive boost to our club as a whole and that team in particular. In the fourth round, we were 3-0 down to Doncaster with half an hour left and ended up winning 5-4. We then went on to lift the Trophy at Villa Park and the belief, the team spirit and the knowledge that everyone was fighting for each other was massively boosted by the Trophy win. Other teams have managed tilts at two competitions.... Cambridge United went through the playoffs last season having won the Trophy too. It doesn't have to be a distraction if you don't want it to. After all, the last time you won promotion, you got to the Johnstone's Paint Trophy Final too, didn't you? Okay, it was a loss but I'm sure if anything the appearance in the Final would have helped the players when they then played the playoff final a few weeks later. Genuinely can't see why you would turn your nose up at winning a competition you were equipped to win. See your point, well made, but we're trying to rebuild a team here after the absolute disaster of last season. Firstly, we haven't enough of a squad yet to battle in many competitions, we're just about doing well enough in the league! Secondly, couldnt care less about a trophy that no one knows who won it last year. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2014 18:59:10 GMT
To say it was a meaningless game is an insult to the fans who turned up to pay their hard earned money yesterday. No it isn't. I paid my money even though I felt it was a meaningless game before, during and especially after the match. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Dec 14, 2014 20:45:08 GMT
To say it was a meaningless game is an insult to the fans who turned up to pay their hard earned money yesterday. No it isn't. I paid my money even though I felt it was a meaningless game before, during and especially after the match. Haha! Astafjevs!! My faith is Clarke knows this league and status with fa trophy. Maybe weighing everything up, not every game is a must win (no disrespect to opponents) and hope it pays dividends over the next four weeks. Did anyone else think it felt like a pre season match? Or an experimental game?? Only because we've seen the players and formation perform miles better previously.. |
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Post by gasheadnaboo on Dec 14, 2014 21:17:59 GMT
It really didn't need to be a meaningless game though. Winning the Trophy means an extra seven games on top of a season of fifty games roughly, and it could have generated some good feelings around the club if the worst happened, and you didn't go up. I've said before that winning the FA Trophy in 2002 was a massive boost to our club as a whole and that team in particular. In the fourth round, we were 3-0 down to Doncaster with half an hour left and ended up winning 5-4. We then went on to lift the Trophy at Villa Park and the belief, the team spirit and the knowledge that everyone was fighting for each other was massively boosted by the Trophy win. Other teams have managed tilts at two competitions.... Cambridge United went through the playoffs last season having won the Trophy too. It doesn't have to be a distraction if you don't want it to. After all, the last time you won promotion, you got to the Johnstone's Paint Trophy Final too, didn't you? Okay, it was a loss but I'm sure if anything the appearance in the Final would have helped the players when they then played the playoff final a few weeks later. Genuinely can't see why you would turn your nose up at winning a competition you were equipped to win. An extra seven games for injuries and suspensions to occur, not worth it in my opinion. |
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Post by The Man from Del Monte on Dec 15, 2014 8:04:23 GMT
To say it was a meaningless game is an insult to the fans who turned up to pay their hard earned money yesterday. No it isn't. I paid my money even though I felt it was a meaningless game before, during and especially after the match. Fair enough. No need to complain in January when that loan signing does not come in then I guess? (or that our budget is even smaller for next season) That was 5 grand lost out for Saturdays game in prize money alone. If we had progresed it would have been 6 grand for the next one. 7 grand for the third round. 8 grand for the fourth round and so on. |
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Post by The Man from Del Monte on Dec 15, 2014 8:11:32 GMT
It really didn't need to be a meaningless game though. Winning the Trophy means an extra seven games on top of a season of fifty games roughly, and it could have generated some good feelings around the club if the worst happened, and you didn't go up. I've said before that winning the FA Trophy in 2002 was a massive boost to our club as a whole and that team in particular. In the fourth round, we were 3-0 down to Doncaster with half an hour left and ended up winning 5-4. We then went on to lift the Trophy at Villa Park and the belief, the team spirit and the knowledge that everyone was fighting for each other was massively boosted by the Trophy win. Other teams have managed tilts at two competitions.... Cambridge United went through the playoffs last season having won the Trophy too. It doesn't have to be a distraction if you don't want it to. After all, the last time you won promotion, you got to the Johnstone's Paint Trophy Final too, didn't you? Okay, it was a loss but I'm sure if anything the appearance in the Final would have helped the players when they then played the playoff final a few weeks later. Genuinely can't see why you would turn your nose up at winning a competition you were equipped to win. An extra seven games for injuries and suspensions to occur, not worth it in my opinion. Or an extra seven games to be able to fund a couple of (quality) players in January and beyond... |
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Post by The Man from Del Monte on Dec 15, 2014 8:14:01 GMT
To say it was a meaningless game is an insult to the fans who turned up to pay their hard earned money yesterday. Why, I paid but I couldn't careless if we win the cup or not, all I want is to get promoted this season. As far as it effecting player recruitment surely the only way it's going to effect that is if we get to the final and we can't take that into consideration in January by the time we could the season would be virtually ever? We've possibly lost Blisset for at least Friday's game how many players could we potentially lose before a Wembley final. I want (and expect) my Bristol Rovers team to go out and perform in every profesional game. It's as simple as that. |
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Post by droitwichgas on Dec 15, 2014 11:58:20 GMT
Why, I paid but I couldn't careless if we win the cup or not, all I want is to get promoted this season. As far as it effecting player recruitment surely the only way it's going to effect that is if we get to the final and we can't take that into consideration in January by the time we could the season would be virtually ever? We've possibly lost Blisset for at least Friday's game how many players could we potentially lose before a Wembley final. I want (and expect) my Bristol Rovers team to go out and perform in every profesional game. It's as simple as that. You have spent the last decade or so pretty upset then given we've hardly performed since we combusted under Olly. |
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Post by gasheadnaboo on Dec 15, 2014 12:22:06 GMT
An extra seven games for injuries and suspensions to occur, not worth it in my opinion. Or an extra seven games to be able to fund a couple of (quality) players in January and beyond...  This is Bristol Rovers we're talking about!? |
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