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Post by ellington on Oct 26, 2014 9:25:37 GMT
An application to vary conditions 11 and 36 attached to planning permission ref: 12/02090/F, for the redevelopment of the Memorial Stadium to provide a foodstore and residential development, was registered in September 2014. A Noise Report and amended plans accompanied the submission, which proposed some additional noise mitigation measures to justify a slight increase in permitted delivery hours proposed. The proposed noise mitigation measures have now been amended slightly in response to advice from the Environmental Health Officer, the Applicant’s Noise Consultant, and comments from local residents. Accordingly, a revised Noise Assessment Report has been produced, which confirms the following: 1. All plans have been amended to show the raised table at the roundabout required by the S106 Agreement. It is confirmed that the raised table will be limited to a height of no more than 75mm, with a marginal gradient of 1:12. The surface will match that of the existing road, and due to speeds of vehicles entering and exiting the site, a ramp will not be required from the store access arm of the roundabout. Instead, the road will gradually reach the height of the raised table from this direction. 2. The 2.4m high noise barrier that meets the covered service access has been omitted, as it not considered necessary in addition to the 3.6m high noise barrier provided just behind, at the boundary with Trubshaw Close. 3. Confirmation is provided that a 2.4m high acoustic barrier will be provided to the rear of the No. 33 - 45 Filton Avenue properties. 4. The trellis currently shown on top of the fences either side of the access road (adjacent to 27 and 33 Filton Avenue) has been omitted, as this was additional to the height required and unnecessary in terms of noise mitigation Nothing to worry about in my opinion and I fully expect the planning application to succeed and no doubt the club have already had an indication from Bristol city council that that is the case. Where we go thereafter the 25th of November is anyone's guess. Perhaps some of the ITK brigade maybe have insight . Henbury perhaps? He seems to be bang on with his knowledge in the past.
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Post by stevethepirate on Oct 26, 2014 9:49:28 GMT
Newport Shropshire has a rugby team and no football team. Some of the pubs there do not allow people in if they are wearing football shirts yet allow rugby ones. How do I know I work in a pub just outside of there and been to one of the pubs in question. Steve ,according to their web site they are currently 10th in the West Midland league? ?Live nearby at Eccleshall.They used to play somewhere behind the Shakespeare pub when I Refereed them off Audley Road.Anyway ,chuffed to-day with 7 goals and may see you up the road at Telford Sat Yep seen the Rugby posts and fair to say football is a poor second.Meant the Sainsbury's not going ahead there is perhaps not comparible to Rovers situation Duly noted. Besides Newport is too small a town to warrant 3 supermarkets already having a Waitrose and a Co op. I'll be there on Saturday, taking my dad and my neighbour, who is a Czech Chelsea fan. Starting in the Duke of York, Oakengates at about 11 if you want to join. All are welcome.
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Post by Nurse Ratched on Oct 26, 2014 11:22:35 GMT
An application to vary conditions 11 and 36 attached to planning permission ref: 12/02090/F, for the redevelopment of the Memorial Stadium to provide a foodstore and residential development, was registered in September 2014. A Noise Report and amended plans accompanied the submission, which proposed some additional noise mitigation measures to justify a slight increase in permitted delivery hours proposed. The proposed noise mitigation measures have now been amended slightly in response to advice from the Environmental Health Officer, the Applicant’s Noise Consultant, and comments from local residents. Accordingly, a revised Noise Assessment Report has been produced, which confirms the following: 1. All plans have been amended to show the raised table at the roundabout required by the S106 Agreement. It is confirmed that the raised table will be limited to a height of no more than 75mm, with a marginal gradient of 1:12. The surface will match that of the existing road, and due to speeds of vehicles entering and exiting the site, a ramp will not be required from the store access arm of the roundabout. Instead, the road will gradually reach the height of the raised table from this direction. 2. The 2.4m high noise barrier that meets the covered service access has been omitted, as it not considered necessary in addition to the 3.6m high noise barrier provided just behind, at the boundary with Trubshaw Close. 3. Confirmation is provided that a 2.4m high acoustic barrier will be provided to the rear of the No. 33 - 45 Filton Avenue properties. 4. The trellis currently shown on top of the fences either side of the access road (adjacent to 27 and 33 Filton Avenue) has been omitted, as this was additional to the height required and unnecessary in terms of noise mitigation I find it odd that you found it odd. Did you find anything odd about this?
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Post by Peter Parker on Oct 26, 2014 11:44:55 GMT
An application to vary conditions 11 and 36 attached to planning permission ref: 12/02090/F, for the redevelopment of the Memorial Stadium to provide a foodstore and residential development, was registered in September 2014. A Noise Report and amended plans accompanied the submission, which proposed some additional noise mitigation measures to justify a slight increase in permitted delivery hours proposed. The proposed noise mitigation measures have now been amended slightly in response to advice from the Environmental Health Officer, the Applicant’s Noise Consultant, and comments from local residents. Accordingly, a revised Noise Assessment Report has been produced, which confirms the following: 1. All plans have been amended to show the raised table at the roundabout required by the S106 Agreement. It is confirmed that the raised table will be limited to a height of no more than 75mm, with a marginal gradient of 1:12. The surface will match that of the existing road, and due to speeds of vehicles entering and exiting the site, a ramp will not be required from the store access arm of the roundabout. Instead, the road will gradually reach the height of the raised table from this direction. 2. The 2.4m high noise barrier that meets the covered service access has been omitted, as it not considered necessary in addition to the 3.6m high noise barrier provided just behind, at the boundary with Trubshaw Close. 3. Confirmation is provided that a 2.4m high acoustic barrier will be provided to the rear of the No. 33 - 45 Filton Avenue properties. 4. The trellis currently shown on top of the fences either side of the access road (adjacent to 27 and 33 Filton Avenue) has been omitted, as this was additional to the height required and unnecessary in terms of noise mitigation I find it odd that you found it odd. Did you find anything odd about this? What i found odd was what Fargas was saying, which contradicts The Gas. The revision seems straight forward enough. Probably however unlikely to please or placate the locals As i say those ITK seem confident so i shant worry until Sainsburys try their next trick
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 26, 2014 12:20:00 GMT
I can't see this upsetting the locals more than the original plans did? Although no doubt the rather uninformative BCC letter will have!
Whilst Henbury as an insight into BCC matters I doubt he has a clue what Sainsbury's plans are, unless they have been in talks with BCC recently?
Tesco big store sales are apparently bombing which doesn't bode well.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 13:01:29 GMT
So are we still on course to start building last May? Or was it September? Just some people on holiday holding things up......had to laugh when Toni pulled that old chestnut out of the bag at the fans meeting over the summer. I wonder if it was minuted It was 'end of May' then 'late summer' then 'autumn' then 'end of the year', now 'spring', next..... When progress on the the Mem redevelopment stopped it was explained as because some unnamed but inferred third-party was 'unwell'. That was the last we heard for several months until it came out that Opal had pulled out. We never did get told whether he'd recovered. I hope he's okay now. Good here, innit?
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Post by toteend on Oct 26, 2014 19:09:44 GMT
What I find strange is that suoermarkets say the customers prefer smaller stores so don't want to build a big store on the Mem.
B*llocks. What customers go by is price, and that is what is causing problems for the big boys. Why would people worry about the size of a store if the pricing was competitive?
If Sainsburys cut their prices they will fill the Mem store no matter how big it is.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 26, 2014 19:49:25 GMT
It seems shopping habits have changed and they now want to buy often, and cheap, they now don't want to waste time wandering around a big supermarket, although I'm not sure you'd class the Mem a big supermarket or not.
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Post by Thatslife on Oct 27, 2014 16:03:05 GMT
The Mem supermarket was going to be, so they said, the biggest Sainsbury's in Bristol.
I dont believe that shopping habits have changed that much. The supermarket companies say its a change in shopping habits but in truth most people go to the supermarket that gives them the best value for the goods they want.
Aldi and Liddle have proved that the big British supermarkets have been over pricing goods for decades, now people are shopping with their feet and going where the prices are the most reasonable. Changing shopping habits my arse, they have been caught out by the British public who have had enough.
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Post by droitwichgas on Oct 27, 2014 16:52:09 GMT
The Mem supermarket was going to be, so they said, the biggest Sainsbury's in Bristol. I dont believe that shopping habits have changed that much. The supermarket companies say its a change in shopping habits but in truth most people go to the supermarket that gives them the best value for the goods they want. Aldi and Liddle have proved that the big British supermarkets have been over pricing goods for decades, now people are shopping with their feet and going where the prices are the most reasonable. Changing shopping habits my arse, they have been caught out by the British public who have had enough. They are also shopping more often so surely that's a change none of the supermarkets saw coming, which is probably driven by the fact that it's virtually imposssible, at present, to do all of your shopping at just Aldi or Lidl. Regardless of what the issue is it won't make Sainbury's want to now build their biggest supermarket in Bristol if they can avoid it!
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Post by brizzle on Oct 27, 2014 18:59:39 GMT
The Mem supermarket was going to be, so they said, the biggest Sainsbury's in Bristol. I dont believe that shopping habits have changed that much. The supermarket companies say its a change in shopping habits but in truth most people go to the supermarket that gives them the best value for the goods they want. Aldi and Liddle have proved that the big British supermarkets have been over pricing goods for decades, now people are shopping with their feet and going where the prices are the most reasonable. Changing shopping habits my arse, they have been caught out by the British public who have had enough.Without wishing to get involved in the bigger debate, I can certainly bear witness to the fact that at least one of the ''big'' supermarkets appears to be changing direction on prices . . . willingly or not. I was ''invited'' by my good lady wife, to join her on her weekly trip to Tesco Eastgate, and I was both impressed and surprised by the number of 2 for 1 offers BOGOF offers, and just straightforward price reductions that were on offer. She assures me that this is a recent phenomenon, dating from the rise of Aldi/Lidl, and the uproar surrounding Tesco's trading habits and shares decline. Which leads me to believe that, as you say, ''they have been caught out by the British public who have had enough.''
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 27, 2014 19:28:50 GMT
Surely it's more like they've been caught out by Aldi/Lidl under cutting their prices on a big scale, so leading to shoppers changing their loyalty. Although what's the betting once they've built up market share they'll then increase their own prices.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 19:33:59 GMT
Surely it's more like they've been caught out by Aldi/Lidl under cutting their prices on a big scale, so leading to shoppers changing their loyalty. Although what's the betting once they've built up market share they'll then increase their own prices. It was said on the radio that Aldi and Lidl can undercut their prices because they have no shareholders to keep happy with big profits,as they were owned by two brothers,who can charge what they like
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Post by Thatslife on Oct 27, 2014 19:48:01 GMT
Surely it's more like they've been caught out by Aldi/Lidl under cutting their prices on a big scale, so leading to shoppers changing their loyalty. Although what's the betting once they've built up market share they'll then increase their own prices. It was said on the radio that Aldi and Lidl can undercut their prices because they have no shareholders to keep happy with big profits,as they were owned by two brothers,who can charge what they like Think the British shopper doesn't care how or why Aldi and Lidl can charge less, they know they just do so, thats where they shop, I was sad to see that Tesco had to sell some of there private jets, how can they be expected to cope now.........poor things
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Post by bluebeard on Oct 27, 2014 20:00:58 GMT
The problem with the superstores is that you can't just pop in for a pint of milk and loaf of bread. If you aren't disabled or accompanied by young children its a long hike from the car park and they always hide the fresh stuff at the back of the store. You are then faced with long queues to serve yourself and a 5 minute wait for some stroppy bitch to resolve your "unexpected item in the bagging area" issue. The margins on food are fine and the supermarkets only make big profits because they sell in big quantities. IMHO the consumer gets a pretty good deal, it's the manufacturers and producers who are bearing the brunt. If you look at the Aldi and Lidl product ranges they are simply sourcing from overseas suppliers at lower prices and offering an even worse shopping experience. Price is important but the big supermarkets have played in to the budget chains hands by not looking after their customers very well. Service is so poor now that people are prepared to pay more for several quick trips to a convenience store, or, if you are going to have to queue a long time for a bigger shop, you may as well save some money. Nobody has been found out, it's simply supply and demand. If a supermarket chain wants to improve profit margins in future, it will need to differentiate itself from the competition on more than price.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 27, 2014 21:00:22 GMT
I thought shoppers were using Aldi/Lidl because they were cheaper not more expensive?? Whether it's Tesco or Aldi/Lidl the service is poor, only Sainsbury's or Waitrose give good customer service.
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Post by lockleazer on Oct 28, 2014 13:55:12 GMT
surely the demise of the big stores is in a large way down to online shopping with home delivery?
I do my main monthly shop on line with one of the big stores via my supermarket.com... it works out which is cheapest for me , then the store themselves do my shop , pack my bags and deliver it to my door leaving me more time for other things and i pay a quid for that service . THere is just no need for me to venture down to asda/tescos anymore. I do my miolk bread and eggs shop weekly at my local/express store. I watched a programme in the summer that showed asda and tesco now have 'no customer' superstores where the stores are laid out a bit like a normal store but just for order picking... maybe sainsburys could use the mem for that purpose ? cheaper build , less staff? def less overheads.
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Post by brizzle on Oct 28, 2014 16:36:12 GMT
I thought shoppers were using Aldi/Lidl because they were cheaper not more expensive?? Whether it's Tesco or Aldi/Lidl the service is poor, only Sainsbury's or Waitrose give good customer service. What on earth do you base that statement on?
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Post by bluebeard on Oct 28, 2014 16:55:54 GMT
I can't speak for TG obviously but I would agree with this comment based on personal experience. Aldi is cheap and they have some interesting product lines on offer but staffing is at an absolute minimum. Waitrose and Sainsburys give the impression of better quality products and the staff appear more helpful. I used to admire Tesco's model but now that they're market leaders they have become complacent and arrogant.
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Post by Somerset Blue on Oct 28, 2014 17:38:41 GMT
Why does everyone get so worked up about a non entity !
UWE will not happen because Sainsburys will / have .... pull / pulled out of the deal.
Higgs is waiting for us to be up near the top of the League, where fans minds will be thinking of promotion and he will announce that plans will be to revamp the Mem ... he can then dine out off of that lie for the next three years.
The fact he has bluffed and blustered his way to this point is proof to the mans lack of emotional intelligence about the damage he has caused this club.
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