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Post by Nobbygas on Sept 8, 2014 14:08:23 GMT
I get the feeling that it was people who never actually used the forum who were complaining. The old 'I don't like something so I'll get it shut down'. I think I'm right in saying that was the reason for the collapse of the old forum?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2014 14:37:06 GMT
I get the feeling that it was people who never actually used the forum who were complaining. The old 'I don't like something so I'll get it shut down'. I think I'm right in saying that was the reason for the collapse of the old forum? No the main reason from the switch of forum suppliers was security. The old forum was clattered with bugs that some user's internet defences did not pick up. In Vision could not provide us with patches etc to sort it out. Also the move meant that we could also offer a mobile version of the forum. We are going around in circles here. The Mod team DO NOT want to moderate a serious section or the liability of one, there is a simple answer and that is the people that want one set one up, as has been stated we are happy to provide a link to it. A lot has happened since this forum was launched and some of the moderating/admin team have had major things change in their life's. I used to be able to moderate through the day and evening, keeping tabs on everything whilst still running the pub. I now work 5 nights a week (12 hour shifts) and have no access to internet computers at work, however my shift ends at 5:15am so I view posts then for two hours when I get home. Jeff and Ted have put hours upon hours into making this forum work and I can tell you that the last few days have been HELL! We are not all perfect and sometimes things happen. PLEASE I ask you all, can we leave this now. I also ask all members to help us out, if it needs reporting then report it, if you do not agree with something then explain why but does it need reporting?
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Sept 8, 2014 15:16:45 GMT
Jeff I presume the question was to me. You replied why the original theard was deleted, which was absolutely fine & understandable. But it's not dealt with the cause of it being deleted, all the mods (bar one notable exception) have commented on it basically saying we stick together (fine I understand that) but then contradicting each other with the facts in some sort of cover up of individual decisions & dis ussions To put it in simple terms if I went on the thread about the Braintree player being punched saying he got what he deserved & it's a pity he wasn't knocked out I would expect my post to be deleted and to at least expect a warning from the mods if not more. Now in effect that is what strungout has got away with because he's a mod. As to the current affairs not anything I'm complaining about. I respect the work all the mods do on behalf of the forum but I have no personal respect for one of you. Paul - what have I got away with exactly? We had a complaint about a thread being insensitive, so I dealt with it by trying to avoid censorship at all costs, but allowing it to disappear quietly, while posting an explanation for the reasons. Clearly people would have rather that the thread was deleted, but that's not the decision I took. I stand by the decision, but understand if others disagree. Well reading Jeff's replies he deleted thread because the family asked for that because of the way the thread had gone. It had gone that way because of your inappropriate comments, no amount of twisting & turning will change that. Anyway I'm satisfied that the mods are happy to allow anyone to say anything about anyone, which I'll be sure to remember in future.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2014 15:23:20 GMT
No you can't it's libellous or so I'm told
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Post by strung out on Sept 8, 2014 15:33:20 GMT
Paul - what have I got away with exactly? We had a complaint about a thread being insensitive, so I dealt with it by trying to avoid censorship at all costs, but allowing it to disappear quietly, while posting an explanation for the reasons. Clearly people would have rather that the thread was deleted, but that's not the decision I took. I stand by the decision, but understand if others disagree. Well reading Jeff's replies he deleted thread because the family asked for that because of the way the thread had gone. It had gone that way because of your inappropriate comments, no amount of twisting & turning will change that. Anyway I'm satisfied that the mods are happy to allow anyone to say anything about anyone, which I'll be sure to remember in future. You are very welcome to remember what you like. We had reports from people who had witnessed the man's violence because they were upset about the tributes being made to him, and how it might reflect on the forum/Bristol Rovers. I agreed that the thread should be allowed to drop so I took action explaining why on the thread. Lots of people were happy with that (including the admin team) and some weren't, including you. If some people were upset that I revealed elements of the man's past that were best left forgotten, then I apologise, but I will always try and explain why moderation actions are taken so I can't be accused of censorship. Ironic that people eventually demanded thread deletions rather than the truth being disclosed, but that's opinions for you.
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Post by gassedup on Sept 8, 2014 15:54:53 GMT
This has been an incredibly interesting thread to read and, if nothing else, shows what a diverse opinion people have.
The Current Affairs section - no brainer. Those that want it can moderate it on their own forum and have a link from here. That's not difficult is it? Can't say I really blame anyone running a football forum about Bristol Rovers for not wanting to spend time moderating something they have no interest in.
The other thread - it appears that at the end of the day, for totally opposing reasons, no-one actually wanted the thread including all the facts.
All I can say is thank you to the moderators and administrators for what is a totally thankless task.
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Post by zfc on Sept 8, 2014 16:26:09 GMT
Thanks admin team for your speedy honest replies.
I still think it is a great shame that the current affairs section was deleted and quite annoyed that people who didn`t use it became offended by it.
I suppose it`s a sign of the world we live in today where the wishy washy PC lot find anything to be offended about and would rather there was no debate on issues where they play the race card and end any debate almost immediately.
I don`t think the "thats racist brigade" will stop debate as more and more people are having their eyes opened to the damage being done in Europe by the very people who play the race card and stifle debate..............Rant over.
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Sept 8, 2014 17:17:25 GMT
Well reading Jeff's replies he deleted thread because the family asked for that because of the way the thread had gone. It had gone that way because of your inappropriate comments, no amount of twisting & turning will change that. Anyway I'm satisfied that the mods are happy to allow anyone to say anything about anyone, which I'll be sure to remember in future. You are very welcome to remember what you like. We had reports from people who had witnessed the man's violence because they were upset about the tributes being made to him, and how it might reflect on the forum/Bristol Rovers. I agreed that the thread should be allowed to drop so I took action explaining why on the thread. Lots of people were happy with that (including the admin team) and some weren't, including you. If some people were upset that I revealed elements of the man's past that were best left forgotten, then I apologise, but I will always try and explain why moderation actions are taken so I can't be accused of censorship. Ironic that people eventually demanded thread deletions rather than the truth being disclosed, but that's opinions for you. At last an apology for all the strife you have caused, yet you still try to twist the facts. Thanks I'll remember the actual facts rather than the version you are peddling to cover your arse.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2014 17:44:57 GMT
It's political correctness gone mad.
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Post by zfc on Sept 8, 2014 18:57:48 GMT
It's political correctness gone mad. Political correctness is not funny. They're not happy in Gaza .. They're not happy in Egypt .. They're not happy in Libya .. They're not happy in Morocco .. They're not happy in Iran .. They're not happy in Iraq .. They're not happy in Yemen ... They're not happy in Afghanistan ... They're not happy in Pakistan .. They're not happy in Syria .. They're not happy in Lebanon ... SO.. WHERE ARE THEY HAPPY? They're happy in Australia .. They're happy in Canada .. They're happy in England .. They're happy in France .. They're happy in Italy .. They're happy in Germany .. They're happy in Sweden .. They're happy in the USA .. They're happy in Norway .. They're happy in Holland .. They're happy in Denmark .. They`re happy in Belgium .. Basically, they're happy in every country that is not Muslim and unhappy in every country that is! AND WHO DO THEY BLAME? Not Islam. Not their leadership. Not themselves THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN ! AND THEN- They want to change those countries to be like, THE COUNTRY THEY CAME FROM WHERE THEY WERE UNHAPPY!
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Sept 8, 2014 19:38:04 GMT
That's nice.
Anyhoo, do you think Clarke should go 4-4-2 or play three at the back tomorrow?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2014 20:52:41 GMT
Classic Shane. Brown people are always bad.
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Post by zfc on Sept 8, 2014 20:59:40 GMT
Classic Shane. Brown people are always bad. Don`t put words in my mouth. Brown people are not bad. Islam is a cancer thats for sure and attitudes like yours allows the cancer to spread.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2014 21:00:48 GMT
Classic Shane. Brown people are always bad. Don`t put words in my mouth. Brown people are not bad. Islam is a cancer thats for sure and attitudes like yours allows the cancer to spread. So all Muslims are bad?
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Post by zfc on Sept 8, 2014 21:05:02 GMT
Countries where there is a 100% muslim population are barbaric and an affront to humanity.
Deny it all you want but it is an undisputed fact about 90% in those countries are moderate muslims so it doesn`t take a brain surgeon to work out how dangerous the moderate muslims are as they are sheep who seem to have no problem with the barbaric aspects of their religion that was made up by a false prophet.
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Post by Nobbygas on Sept 8, 2014 21:06:22 GMT
Classic Shane. Brown people are always bad. Shane didn't mention anything about 'brown people'? Are you attempting to play up the race card? After all, it's easier to shout 'racist' than deal with the actual problem?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2014 21:08:40 GMT
These guys.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2014 21:12:48 GMT
You are very welcome to remember what you like. We had reports from people who had witnessed the man's violence because they were upset about the tributes being made to him, and how it might reflect on the forum/Bristol Rovers. I agreed that the thread should be allowed to drop so I took action explaining why on the thread. Lots of people were happy with that (including the admin team) and some weren't, including you. If some people were upset that I revealed elements of the man's past that were best left forgotten, then I apologise, but I will always try and explain why moderation actions are taken so I can't be accused of censorship. Ironic that people eventually demanded thread deletions rather than the truth being disclosed, but that's opinions for you. At last an apology for all the strife you have caused, yet you still try to twist the facts. Thanks I'll remember the actual facts rather than the version you are peddling to cover your arse. Dear oh dear Does this ever end?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2014 21:12:47 GMT
Don`t put words in my mouth. Brown people are not bad. Islam is a cancer thats for sure and attitudes like yours allows the cancer to spread. CBA.
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Post by zfc on Sept 8, 2014 21:14:24 GMT
Classic Shane. Brown people are always bad. Shane didn't mention anything about 'brown people'? Are you attempting to play up the race card? After all, it's easier to shout 'racist' than deal with the actual problem? I wonder if chewbacca was one of the unnamed who complained about the Current Affairs section of the forum. He fits all the criteria as he has already mentioned the Daily Mail and is super quick in playing the now pathetic predictable race card.
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