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Post by trymer on Jan 1, 2024 18:21:13 GMT
An article on BBC news today about gambling addiction,interview with a bloke who went to prison for stealing £million plus to fund his gambling,quite a story.
Apparently this man started with £5 bets on football matches,I know several people who bet on matches and they are always telling me a hard luck story about how they were on for a £xxxx win until the other team scored a late goal/penalty etc.
I never gamble and I just cant understand the attraction of it, obviously some people have addictive personalities even when they manage to stop one addiction they swap it for another.
I listened to a radio programme about gambling addiction a couple of years ago,they were calling it the 'hidden addiction' because its not obvious who's an addict unlike tobacco,booze,drugs.
Makes me wonder if there are more people with gambling problems now as its become easier to place bets ? quite possible that some people who would never have entered a betting shop now place bets using their phone.
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Post by L on Jan 4, 2024 21:52:44 GMT
I often wonder about the ones on slot machines in services at 1/2/3 am , called in way back from hol & there must of been 4/5 lads playing them , but on the whole I don’t think so many gamble these days , the w/ shop 30 yrs ago would empty when there was a horse race on , don’t see it these days
Motorbikes are my addictions I guess , spent god knows how much on them , how hard I try to say enough is enough , a few weeks later another will be in the garage , mrs despairs
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Post by trymer on Jan 5, 2024 9:07:53 GMT
I often wonder about the ones on slot machines in services at 1/2/3 am , called in way back from hol & there must of been 4/5 lads playing them , but on the whole I don’t think so many gamble these days , the w/ shop 30 yrs ago would empty when there was a horse race on , don’t see it these days Yes i remember the days of blokes listening to the racing results on the radio and seeing them going into the bookies at lunch time to place their bets. Gambling is much bigger now and less noticeable,that lad in the corner quietly looking at his phone might have done £500 at online casino during his tea break. When you placed a bet in the betting shop you had to have the cash,these days people rack up thousands of pounds of losses online. Another thing was that women would rarely be seen going into a betting shop now they can bet online too, I go into Tesco express to get my petrol and there always seems to be a (different) woman in the queue buying a pile of lottery scratch cards. |
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Post by trymer on Jan 5, 2024 9:11:16 GMT
Motorbikes are my addictions I guess , spent god knows how much on them , how hard I try to say enough is enough , a few weeks later another will be in the garage , mrs despairs Good to have an interest, too many people have a lifestyle of lying on sofa watching TV ans smoking/drinking/drugs/gambling all of which are / can be harmful. I know a woman who works with elderly people and she says the old blokes with interests are better adjusted,more pleasant and not crabby or cantankerous...we see it on this forum too often. |
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Post by oldie on Jan 5, 2024 14:49:37 GMT
Motorbikes are my addictions I guess , spent god knows how much on them , how hard I try to say enough is enough , a few weeks later another will be in the garage , mrs despairs Good to have an interest, too many people have a lifestyle of lying on sofa watching TV ans smoking/drinking/drugs/gambling all of which are / can be harmful. I know a woman who works with elderly people and she says the old blokes with interests are better adjusted,more pleasant and not crabby or cantankerous...we see it on this forum too often. Another classic case of unintended irony.🤭 |
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Post by trymer on Feb 26, 2024 10:13:07 GMT
Online slots...I had never heard of them but on the weekend there was an interview with a couple who's son had committed suicide because of debts that he had built up gambling on online slots.
Sounds horrendous that someone can sit quietly on their phone and lose thousands of pounds,the government have decided to lower the stakes to slow down the amount lost..tbh I think that betting should only be able to take place in a licensed betting shop/casino, since online betting started the situation seems much worse.
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Post by trymer on Feb 26, 2024 10:21:20 GMT
Not gambling related but another addiction (I dont intend to start threads for all addictions) apparently mobile phone use has become an addiction for some people.
90% of British people have smartphones/I phones (I am one of the 10% then) and they are constantly looking at their phones.
I have noticed a few times twats in front of me at traffic lights missing the green because they are looking at their phone,but I have started to notice at the gym that some people are constantly looking at their phones.
Last week a young bloke next to me sat on a gym roller on his phone without doing any exercise foe at least 10 minutes !...when I looked into the mirror I counted another 4 people looking at their phones,bizarre behaviour.
They must be panic stricken if the thing gets stolen or breaks.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 26, 2024 11:09:56 GMT
Not gambling related but another addiction (I dont intend to start threads for all addictions) apparently mobile phone use has become an addiction for some people. 90% of British people have smartphones/I phones (I am one of the 10% then) and they are constantly looking at their phones. I have noticed a few times twats in front of me at traffic lights missing the green because they are looking at their phone,but I have started to notice at the gym that some people are constantly looking at their phones. Last week a young bloke next to me sat on a gym roller on his phone without doing any exercise foe at least 10 minutes !...when I looked into the mirror I counted another 4 people looking at their phones,bizarre behaviour. They must be panic stricken if the thing gets stolen or breaks. It’s a very real addiction and I’ve seen many lose their minds even if they misplace them. |
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Post by bluetornados on Feb 26, 2024 12:18:50 GMT
Not gambling related but another addiction (I dont intend to start threads for all addictions) apparently mobile phone use has become an addiction for some people. 90% of British people have smartphones/I phones (I am one of the 10% then) and they are constantly looking at their phones. I have noticed a few times twats in front of me at traffic lights missing the green because they are looking at their phone,but I have started to notice at the gym that some people are constantly looking at their phones. Last week a young bloke next to me sat on a gym roller on his phone without doing any exercise foe at least 10 minutes !...when I looked into the mirror I counted another 4 people looking at their phones,bizarre behaviour. They must be panic stricken if the thing gets stolen or breaks. Agree, i am one of the 10% too, i only have a mobile phone that makes calls, sends texts and a few other things, my phone is for when i go out and need it urgently. My phone is mostly off or not even with me if i go out with the better half, who has a super-duper up to date flashy phone that she is on a lot of the time. Mobile phones are a great addition these days and many live and lead their lives on them, no problem, but how did we ever manage in the good old days..? |
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Post by trymer on Feb 26, 2024 14:26:28 GMT
Not gambling related but another addiction (I dont intend to start threads for all addictions) apparently mobile phone use has become an addiction for some people. 90% of British people have smartphones/I phones (I am one of the 10% then) and they are constantly looking at their phones. I have noticed a few times twats in front of me at traffic lights missing the green because they are looking at their phone,but I have started to notice at the gym that some people are constantly looking at their phones. Last week a young bloke next to me sat on a gym roller on his phone without doing any exercise foe at least 10 minutes !...when I looked into the mirror I counted another 4 people looking at their phones,bizarre behaviour. They must be panic stricken if the thing gets stolen or breaks. Agree, i am one of the 10% too, i only have a mobile phone that makes calls, sends texts and a few other things, my phone is for when i go out and need it urgently. My phone is mostly off or not even with me if i go out with the better half, who has a super-duper up to date flashy phone that she is on a lot of the time. Mobile phones are a great addition these days and many live and lead their lives on them, no problem, but how did we ever manage in the good old days..? Yes I only have a basic mobile for calls / texts, phone was less than £20 and monthly bill is under £5....very useful on occasion. |
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Post by oldie on Feb 26, 2024 22:28:48 GMT
Own up
Who has a John Bull Printing set and still uses it to create printed letters?
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Post by trymer on Mar 4, 2024 8:36:10 GMT
Reading about Stan Bowles,apparently he lost £750,000 gambling,a massive amount but he probably lost a lot of that in the 70s,80s when a pound was worth far more than now.
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Post by eppinggas on Mar 6, 2024 16:54:06 GMT
Reading about Stan Bowles,apparently he lost £750,000 gambling,a massive amount but he probably lost a lot of that in the 70s,80s when a pound was worth far more than now. RIP Stan. Last seen playing for Epping Town FC. Part of the conditions of him playing for Epping were that he didn't have to turn up mid-week if Walthamstow dogs were on... (Actually true). |
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Post by oldie on Mar 6, 2024 19:54:53 GMT
Reading about Stan Bowles,apparently he lost £750,000 gambling,a massive amount but he probably lost a lot of that in the 70s,80s when a pound was worth far more than now. RIP Stan. Last seen playing for Epping Town FC. Part of the conditions of him playing for Epping were that he didn't have to turn up mid-week if Walthamstow dogs were on... (Actually true). Abject hypocrisy. You post odds on this forum for the purposes of gambling... Pathetic |
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Post by Nobbygas on Mar 6, 2024 21:58:25 GMT
My memory of Stan Bowles, and forgive me if I have some of the details wrong but this is from memory... Rovers v QPR away. I think it was a League Cup game at Loftus Road. I was there so I was probably about 12 or 13? It's hazy  We drew 1-1, but in the last minute QPR got a free kick on the edge of our box. Up stepped Stanley and crashed a shot that came crashing back from the cross bar! We survived, but what a player Stanley was. He was the original Gazza. In the replay at Eastville it was a wet and windy Tuesday night. I was in the Tote End. Someone was sent clear in the inside left position, he shot and Phil Parkes dived to his left and palmed it. The ball just stopped in the mud, about 8yds out, slap bang in the middle of the goal. Up strode Sandy Allen to just slot it into the empty net, and we won 1-0. I remember it because it was one of those rare moments where you started to jump up and celebrate a goal before the ball went into the net! He just couldn't miss. I hope my memory is not affected by age, but this is how I remember it. It was one of those great League Cup nights at Eastville in the 70's. |
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Post by bluetornados on Mar 6, 2024 22:26:51 GMT
My memory of Stan Bowles, and forgive me if I have some of the details wrong but this is from memory... Rovers v QPR away. I think it was a League Cup game at Loftus Road. I was there so I was probably about 12 or 13? It's hazy We drew 1-1, but in the last minute QPR got a free kick on the edge of our box. Up stepped Stanley and crashed a shot that came crashing back from the cross bar! We survived, but what a player Stanley was. He was the original Gazza. In the replay at Eastville it was a wet and windy Tuesday night. I was in the Tote End. Someone was sent clear in the inside left position, he shot and Phil Parkes dived to his left and palmed it. The ball just stopped in the mud, about 8yds out, slap bang in the middle of the goal. Up strode Sandy Allen to just slot it into the empty net, and we won 1-0. I remember it because it was one of those rare moments where you started to jump up and celebrate a goal before the ball went into the net! He just couldn't miss. I hope my memory is not affected by age, but this is how I remember it. It was one of those great League Cup nights at Eastville in the 70's. Since 1907 we have played QPR 65 times, W25, D13, L27...The 2 games above were as you said in the 4th round of the league cup & were played on: Queens Park Rangers 1 Bristol Rovers 1...Saturday 26th October 1971 Bristol Rovers 1 Queens Park Rangers 0...Tuesday 2nd November 1971 BRFC finished 6th in the 3rd division and lost 2-4 at home to Stoke City (the eventual cup winners) in the Q/F on 23.11.1971 |
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Post by Nobbygas on Mar 6, 2024 23:48:17 GMT
My memory of Stan Bowles, and forgive me if I have some of the details wrong but this is from memory... Rovers v QPR away. I think it was a League Cup game at Loftus Road. I was there so I was probably about 12 or 13? It's hazy We drew 1-1, but in the last minute QPR got a free kick on the edge of our box. Up stepped Stanley and crashed a shot that came crashing back from the cross bar! We survived, but what a player Stanley was. He was the original Gazza. In the replay at Eastville it was a wet and windy Tuesday night. I was in the Tote End. Someone was sent clear in the inside left position, he shot and Phil Parkes dived to his left and palmed it. The ball just stopped in the mud, about 8yds out, slap bang in the middle of the goal. Up strode Sandy Allen to just slot it into the empty net, and we won 1-0. I remember it because it was one of those rare moments where you started to jump up and celebrate a goal before the ball went into the net! He just couldn't miss. I hope my memory is not affected by age, but this is how I remember it. It was one of those great League Cup nights at Eastville in the 70's. Since 1907 we have played QPR 65 times, W25, D13, L27...The 2 games above were as you said in the 4th round of the league cup & were played on: Queens Park Rangers 1 Bristol Rovers 1...Saturday 26th October 1971 Bristol Rovers 1 Queens Park Rangers 0...Tuesday 2nd November 1971 BRFC finished 6th in the 3rd division and lost 2-4 at home to Stoke City (the eventual cup winners) in the Q/F on 23.11.1971 Thank you so much for that........I'm just glad that I wasn't dreaming it  |
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Post by bluetornados on Mar 22, 2024 15:58:28 GMT
Gambling in football: Ivan Toney and Sandro Tonali bans a disgrace - Paul Merson.ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/800/cpsprodpb/9105/production/_132952173_mers.jpgFormer Arsenal winger Paul Merson says football is "ravaged" with gambling and the bans given to Ivan Toney and Sandro Tonali are a "disgrace". Merson says he was a "compulsive gambler" during his playing days and that it is a "hidden addiction" because it is hard for people to spot. Toney was banned for eight months for 232 breaches of betting rules while Tonali's 10-month ban ends in August. "People have no respect for the gambling addiction," said Merson. "We've seen that with the bans of Sandro Tonali at Newcastle and Ivan Toney at Brentford. "To give people 10-month bans for an addiction that is ravaging football, with sponsorships all over the shirts... They needed help and I don't think 'help' is giving them 10-month bans. "We underestimate this addiction. We need to show it some respect and not, 'oh, show a bit of willpower'. I would say to the people who make these rules up and ban people, 'next time you get diarrhoea, try and stop that with willpower'." ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/800/cpsprodpb/903D/production/_132952963_en.jpgMerson had a successful career with Arsenal - winning two league championships, one FA Cup, a League Cup and the European Cup Winners' Cup - and played 21 times for England. The 55-year-old, who has said he has been addicted to gambling his entire adult life, believes it is now much more of an issue in football than alcohol. "It's big in football, it's a hidden addiction because it's a hard one for managers to get hold of," he told the Sacked in the Morning podcast. "It's easy to hide. If a player comes in who's been out drinking 'til four o'clock in the morning, you know. "But if they drop 200 grand at a casino or betting, you never know until it's too late. "Talking to Tony [Adams] about Sporting Chance [rehabilitation clinic], it's gone from 70-30 in terms of drinking over gambling to the other way round - it's 70% gambling and 30% drinking. That tells you it's a massive thing. "With gambling, clubs think, 'well, it's not harming them really - it's not going to affect their game'. But it will affect their game more than drink. "I used to think I was a bad person who was trying to be a good person but I wasn't, I was an ill person who needed to get well." ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/800/cpsprodpb/DE5D/production/_132952965_wal.jpgMerson also played for Aston Villa, Middlesbrough and Walsall - and it was at the Midlands club that he got his one and only taste of life as a manager. "From the age of about 28, I'd always wanted to be a football manager. I learned nothing at school. I just loved football," he added. "My only regret in football is I failed miserably at Walsall. At the time my addictions were raging with drink and gambling. "I thought I'd be a really good manager. I really did. I played under some top managers. I always listened and took it in but I just couldn't do it when it came to me. I just wasn't good enough." Merson's take on...
Switching from player to managerIt was hard. I was one of the lads. Always having a laugh. To go from that to the manager in a day and make decisions was difficult. I think I am a nice bloke and you need to have an edge about you, be ruthless. That was the reason I found it difficult. I used to ring up people like Alex Ferguson and Mick McCarthy and I remember Mick asking how it was going. I said, 'I love Saturdays - Monday to Friday not so much but Saturdays I love'. About three months later I dreaded Saturdays, we had no chance and I had to go and tell the lads we could win. His favourite - and least favourite - managersGeorge Graham. We wouldn't have won anything without him. Arsenal were going nowhere until he came along. I've played in front of 18,000 at Highbury. Then all of a sudden, bang. Arsene was great, but when he came in, the back four and goalkeeper were sorted when he arrived. Harry Redknapp. His man management was second to none. I struggled a bit with Colin Lee at Walsall. He was an unbelievable coach, up there with Wenger, Redknapp and [Terry] Venables. But he wasn't a manager, the man management. He made me train every day and by Saturday I was hopeless. I wouldn't get in Walsall fans' top 100 players. Arsenal's drinking culturePerry Groves came in from Colchester United as Cliff Richard and left as Keith Richards. That tells you what it was like. It was mad. Signing for MiddlesbroughI was chasing the money. Arsene said to me "you're getting more money than Dennis Bergkamp" - and I was playing in the Championship. Being an addict, a compulsive gambler, I couldn't turn that money down.
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Post by trymer on Mar 23, 2024 9:09:48 GMT
Gambling in football: Ivan Toney and Sandro Tonali bans a disgrace - Paul Merson.ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/800/cpsprodpb/9105/production/_132952173_mers.jpgFormer Arsenal winger Paul Merson says football is "ravaged" with gambling and the bans given to Ivan Toney and Sandro Tonali are a "disgrace". Merson says he was a "compulsive gambler" during his playing days and that it is a "hidden addiction" because it is hard for people to spot. Toney was banned for eight months for 232 breaches of betting rules while Tonali's 10-month ban ends in August. "People have no respect for the gambling addiction," said Merson. "We've seen that with the bans of Sandro Tonali at Newcastle and Ivan Toney at Brentford. "To give people 10-month bans for an addiction that is ravaging football, with sponsorships all over the shirts... They needed help and I don't think 'help' is giving them 10-month bans. "We underestimate this addiction. We need to show it some respect and not, 'oh, show a bit of willpower'. I would say to the people who make these rules up and ban people, 'next time you get diarrhoea, try and stop that with willpower'." ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/800/cpsprodpb/903D/production/_132952963_en.jpgMerson had a successful career with Arsenal - winning two league championships, one FA Cup, a League Cup and the European Cup Winners' Cup - and played 21 times for England. The 55-year-old, who has said he has been addicted to gambling his entire adult life, believes it is now much more of an issue in football than alcohol. "It's big in football, it's a hidden addiction because it's a hard one for managers to get hold of," he told the Sacked in the Morning podcast. "It's easy to hide. If a player comes in who's been out drinking 'til four o'clock in the morning, you know. "But if they drop 200 grand at a casino or betting, you never know until it's too late. "Talking to Tony [Adams] about Sporting Chance [rehabilitation clinic], it's gone from 70-30 in terms of drinking over gambling to the other way round - it's 70% gambling and 30% drinking. That tells you it's a massive thing. "With gambling, clubs think, 'well, it's not harming them really - it's not going to affect their game'. But it will affect their game more than drink. "I used to think I was a bad person who was trying to be a good person but I wasn't, I was an ill person who needed to get well." ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/800/cpsprodpb/DE5D/production/_132952965_wal.jpgMerson also played for Aston Villa, Middlesbrough and Walsall - and it was at the Midlands club that he got his one and only taste of life as a manager. "From the age of about 28, I'd always wanted to be a football manager. I learned nothing at school. I just loved football," he added. "My only regret in football is I failed miserably at Walsall. At the time my addictions were raging with drink and gambling. "I thought I'd be a really good manager. I really did. I played under some top managers. I always listened and took it in but I just couldn't do it when it came to me. I just wasn't good enough." Merson's take on...
Switching from player to managerIt was hard. I was one of the lads. Always having a laugh. To go from that to the manager in a day and make decisions was difficult. I think I am a nice bloke and you need to have an edge about you, be ruthless. That was the reason I found it difficult. I used to ring up people like Alex Ferguson and Mick McCarthy and I remember Mick asking how it was going. I said, 'I love Saturdays - Monday to Friday not so much but Saturdays I love'. About three months later I dreaded Saturdays, we had no chance and I had to go and tell the lads we could win. His favourite - and least favourite - managersGeorge Graham. We wouldn't have won anything without him. Arsenal were going nowhere until he came along. I've played in front of 18,000 at Highbury. Then all of a sudden, bang. Arsene was great, but when he came in, the back four and goalkeeper were sorted when he arrived. Harry Redknapp. His man management was second to none. I struggled a bit with Colin Lee at Walsall. He was an unbelievable coach, up there with Wenger, Redknapp and [Terry] Venables. But he wasn't a manager, the man management. He made me train every day and by Saturday I was hopeless. I wouldn't get in Walsall fans' top 100 players. Arsenal's drinking culturePerry Groves came in from Colchester United as Cliff Richard and left as Keith Richards. That tells you what it was like. It was mad. Signing for MiddlesbroughI was chasing the money. Arsene said to me "you're getting more money than Dennis Bergkamp" - and I was playing in the Championship. Being an addict, a compulsive gambler, I couldn't turn that money down. Strange how governments have made smoking more expensive to discourage it,now they are cracking down on vaping but gambling has been made easier to access. |
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Post by trymer on Mar 23, 2024 9:14:01 GMT
Synthetic opiods being mentioned a lot this week on the radio,apparently the Taliban have cracked down on Heroin production and because there is a gap in the market some people have shown 'enterprise initiative' and are selling Fentanyl which because its up to 100 times stronger than Heroin is causing overdoses.
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