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Post by Nobbygas on Mar 19, 2024 9:20:13 GMT
I have told you before on here, that a friend of mine who runs a 'British Shop' in Germany was having food imported from the UK being held-up for six weeks in Germany customs with things like sausages & bacon being off even before they arrived. . It works both ways. Why should the UK allow EU food to come into the UK willy nilly when it is the EU that have imposed these measures.
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Post by oldie on Mar 19, 2024 9:24:54 GMT
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Post by oldie on Mar 19, 2024 9:28:16 GMT
I have told you before on here, that a friend of mine who runs a 'British Shop' in Germany was having food imported from the UK being held-up for six weeks in Germany customs with things like sausages & bacon being off even before they arrived. . It works both ways. Why should the UK allow EU food to come into the UK willy nilly when it is the EU that have imposed these measures. Nobody imposed any measures until we left. The new Trade Treaty with the EU imposed these measures. The EU implemented them almost immediately whilst our Government held off untill this April (2 years?) because faced with horror of what they had done, they didn't do it. Now they have. Do you also not see the damage to trade?
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Post by Nobbygas on Mar 19, 2024 9:33:35 GMT
I have told you before on here, that a friend of mine who runs a 'British Shop' in Germany was having food imported from the UK being held-up for six weeks in Germany customs with things like sausages & bacon being off even before they arrived. . It works both ways. Why should the UK allow EU food to come into the UK willy nilly when it is the EU that have imposed these measures. Nobody imposed any measures until we left. The new Trade Treaty with the EU imposed these measures. The EU implemented them almost immediately whilst our Government held off untill this April (2 years?) because faced with horror of what they had done, they didn't do it. Now they have. Do you also not see the damage to trade? You are saying that the UK should not impose these measures, yet you ignore the fact that it was the EU that first imposed them ! If it damages imports, then so be it. Maybe British firms can step up to fill the gaps eh!
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Post by oldie on Mar 19, 2024 10:40:29 GMT
Nobody imposed any measures until we left. The new Trade Treaty with the EU imposed these measures. The EU implemented them almost immediately whilst our Government held off untill this April (2 years?) because faced with horror of what they had done, they didn't do it. Now they have. Do you also not see the damage to trade? You are saying that the UK should not impose these measures, yet you ignore the fact that it was the EU that first imposed them ! If it damages imports, then so be it. Maybe British firms can step up to fill the gaps eh! That's a false narrative. We, the UK, negotiated a new Trade Treaty after we left. Then we signed it. To the absolute detriment of UK business and consumers. Now you want to blame the EU. Right
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Post by Nobbygas on Mar 19, 2024 10:53:02 GMT
You are saying that the UK should not impose these measures, yet you ignore the fact that it was the EU that first imposed them ! If it damages imports, then so be it. Maybe British firms can step up to fill the gaps eh! That's a false narrative. We, the UK, negotiated a new Trade Treaty after we left. Then we signed it. To the absolute detriment of UK business and consumers. Now you want to blame the EU. Right No, I'm not blaming anyone. I just don't understand why you think the UK should just open it's borders to goods from the EU, when the EU will not reciprocate. They didn't have to introduce those measures. They could have done the same as the UK and just 'carried on as before", but they didn't did they. The UK has proven that is was possible to "carry on as before". If the EU want to make it difficult for the UK to export into the EU then we should do the same. Maybe it will bring them to their senses.
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Post by oldie on Mar 19, 2024 11:56:52 GMT
That's a false narrative. We, the UK, negotiated a new Trade Treaty after we left. Then we signed it. To the absolute detriment of UK business and consumers. Now you want to blame the EU. Right No, I'm not blaming anyone. I just don't understand why you think the UK should just open it's borders to goods from the EU, when the EU will not reciprocate. They didn't have to introduce those measures. They could have done the same as the UK and just 'carried on as before", but they didn't did they. The UK has proven that is was possible to "carry on as before". If the EU want to make it difficult for the UK to export into the EU then we should do the same. Maybe it will bring them to their senses. To be honest I find this logic mind boggling. We had a Trade Treaty with our membership of the EU which was basically a "no holds barred" arrangement for both sides, subject to our membership of said EU. It was us who said we want out of the membership but then said "but we want the same trade arrangements" Then we are surprised when they say no. It reminds of a little kerfuffle at our local social club where I live. Membership costs £20 a year and for that bar prices are at least 25p a unit cheaper than a regular pub. Some locals objected and then couldn't understand why their prices were higher. It's unreal really
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Post by trymer on Mar 20, 2024 10:10:48 GMT
BBC apologising for calling Reform 'far right',the BBC should be privatised this antiquated propaganda machine is not fit for purpose.
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Post by oldie on Mar 20, 2024 10:33:36 GMT
BBC apologising for calling Reform 'far right',the BBC should be privatised this antiquated propaganda machine is not fit for purpose. Yeah. They really should have stuck with the obvious. "Really, really stupid" "I want my country back, because my mum said so" 😂😂😂 I mean really, what the hell. And people actually vote for this utter tripe.
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Post by Nobbygas on Mar 20, 2024 11:09:33 GMT
BBC apologising for calling Reform 'far right',the BBC should be privatised this antiquated propaganda machine is not fit for purpose. Yeah. They really should have stuck with the obvious. "Really, really stupid" "I want my country back, because my mum said so" 😂😂😂 I mean really, what the hell. And people actually vote for this utter tripe. You'd rather people vote for the utter tripe you support?
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Post by oldie on Mar 20, 2024 17:10:59 GMT
Yeah. They really should have stuck with the obvious. "Really, really stupid" "I want my country back, because my mum said so" 😂😂😂 I mean really, what the hell. And people actually vote for this utter tripe. You'd rather people vote for the utter tripe you support? What doI support?
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Post by Nobbygas on Mar 20, 2024 21:38:01 GMT
You'd rather people vote for the utter tripe you support? What doI support? Obviously not the Reform Party 😁. Can't see you being a Tory. That leaves either Labour, the Greens or Libdems.
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Post by oldie on Mar 21, 2024 6:36:03 GMT
Obviously not the Reform Party 😁. Can't see you being a Tory. That leaves either Labour, the Greens or Libdems. National Raving Loony? 😂😂
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Post by ltdgas on Mar 24, 2024 13:32:49 GMT
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Post by ltdgas on Mar 29, 2024 13:24:16 GMT
You’ve got to be joking’: Mandelson dismisses prospect of UK rejoining EU Labour peer says there is little desire among voters for a referendum and in Brussels for renegotiations Richard Partington Economics correspondent Wed 27 Mar 2024 14.38 GMT Share Peter Mandelson has dismissed the prospect of an incoming Labour government taking Britain back into the EU, saying “you’ve got to be joking” that Brussels would want to renegotiate the UK’s membership. The Labour peer, a former EU trade commissioner and close adviser to Keir Starmer, said rejoining the 27-country bloc would require a referendum that UK voters had little desire for, after the Conservatives’ botched handling of Brexit. “I cannot see the British people running towards for love nor money after what we went through during the last one. I really do not think that people are going to run towards a repeat of that experience,” he told a British Chambers of Commerce (BCC) event at Heathrow airport on Wednesday.
Lord Mandelson, speaking at the launch of the lobby group’s report on building “Global Britain” after the general election, added that a Starmer government would build closer ties with the EU without rejoining.
The EU wanted a more “stable, constructive relationship” with the UK, Mandelson continued, but there was no desire in Brussels for wholesale negotiation of the country’s return.
“Reopen a negotiation? You’ve got to be joking,” he said. “They [the EU] have got other priorities. They have other fish to fry now. And they’re not going to go through the back-and-forth, up-and-down, seesaw motion; or another protracted, probably hard fought over, and indecisive negotiation with Britain. So that’s simply answered.”
His comments come after the BCC called for politicians to “step out of Brexit’s long shadow” and prioritise trade, including through closer ties with the UK’s single largest trading partner.
Martha Lane Fox, the tech entrepreneur and president of the BCC, said there was often a reluctance among politicians to either recognise problems or suggest solutions because of how they may be viewed either side of the Brexit divide.
“This must stop. Our politicians must be bolder in their decision making. They must set out a strategy on how we manage EU regulation and, where it makes sense, to diverge so that British business can benefit,” she said.
Mandelson said Brexit had triggered a “rollercoaster ride of instability, a merry-go-round of changing ministers” that had left the British economy “travelling along with one arm behind our backs”.
Speaking to business leaders in the headquarters of the company responsible for operating Heathrow, overlooking the airport’s northern runway, the former business secretary under Tony Blair said Labour would not follow the Conservatives’ post-Brexit strategy of chasing free trade deals around the world.
However, he said there was a danger that Britain could become “stranded” between a possible Donald Trump administration in the US and weaker post-Brexit relationship with Brussels.
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Post by trymer on Apr 13, 2024 8:21:30 GMT
For the first time this year i saw British tomatoes in Aldi (Aldi only used to sell the tasteless foreign **** until Brexit) they are really tasty, so much choice of British produce in Aldi now. Buying British is also better for the environment, I think that these exotic fruits that are flown here should have massive tariffs to discourage people from buying them.
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Post by eppinggas on Apr 13, 2024 8:52:30 GMT
For the first time this year i saw British tomatoes in Aldi (Aldi only used to sell the tasteless foreign **** until Brexit) they are really tasty, so much choice of British produce in Aldi now. Buying British is also better for the environment, I think that these exotic fruits that are flown here should have massive tariffs to discourage people from buying them. Obviously I'm a free-marketeer... but I don't understand why people buy produce from the southern hemisphere. It's expensive and without going all Greeta Thornburg - this has to be bad for the environment. I remember growing up and looking forward to fresh, seasonal produce. Grown locally. Cheap strawberries, only around for a couple of months. The big supermarkets have a reputation for screwing British farmers. Maybe more regulation is required. And a Buy British campaign wouldn't go amiss.
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Post by Nobbygas on Apr 13, 2024 10:00:49 GMT
For the first time this year i saw British tomatoes in Aldi (Aldi only used to sell the tasteless foreign **** until Brexit) they are really tasty, so much choice of British produce in Aldi now. Buying British is also better for the environment, I think that these exotic fruits that are flown here should have massive tariffs to discourage people from buying them. Obviously I'm a free-marketeer... but I don't understand why people buy produce from the southern hemisphere. It's expensive and without going all Greeta Thornburg - this has to be bad for the environment. I remember growing up and looking forward to fresh, seasonal produce. Grown locally. Cheap strawberries, only around for a couple of months. The big supermarkets have a reputation for screwing British farmers. Maybe more regulation is required. And a Buy British campaign wouldn't go amiss. The keyword in your post is 'seasonal'. People now expect to buy anything all year round.
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Post by trymer on Apr 13, 2024 10:28:18 GMT
Obviously I'm a free-marketeer... but I don't understand why people buy produce from the southern hemisphere. It's expensive and without going all Greeta Thornburg - this has to be bad for the environment. I remember growing up and looking forward to fresh, seasonal produce. Grown locally. Cheap strawberries, only around for a couple of months. The big supermarkets have a reputation for screwing British farmers. Maybe more regulation is required. And a Buy British campaign wouldn't go amiss. The keyword in your post is 'seasonal'. People now expect to buy anything all year round. I heard some old bloke saying they only had chicken at Christmas,i remember chicken being a treat,we certainly didnt have it every week. Seasonal veg was great, the new potatoes couldnt be roated so for a few months you didnt have roasters now people can buy frozen roaters, marrow was only available for a short time and as Epping says strawberries too. I heard on radio that Britain can only produce 60% of the food that we need because the population is so big I suppose.
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Post by ltdgas on Apr 16, 2024 17:22:01 GMT
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