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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2023 13:29:55 GMT
I have no idea who the other candidates are but he is a decent human being with a great record of developing players and a massive improvement on the last incumbent. That sounds like something I can get behind and the club could persevere with. Let him manage for longer than the last four managers. Welcome back to Gas Guzzler, Mr S. |
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Post by harrybuckle on Nov 17, 2023 16:46:59 GMT
In the matches that Joey Barton managed Rovers v Exeter, Rovers never managed a single win. Matt Taylor was far too smart for him and even managed to beat Barton to the Rotherham job. No coincidence that Barton turned on Matt Taylor in the week leading up to the last game Matt Taylor was in charge of the Exeter v Rovers fixture. Warne never managed to keep Rotherham in the Championship but did exceptionally well getting them there. Rotherhams Championship budget is probably less than Rovers League 1 budget and their injury list is appalling, not an excuse for their form but a good reason. Is he the best candidate for the Rovers job? I have no idea who the other candidates are but he is a decent human being with a great record of developing players and a massive improvement on the last incumbent. Yes I recall Jb on radio Bristol saying he had enough money to buy Exeter City fc and his first task would be to sack the manager and entire coaching staff! No love lost there..would be ironic if MT replaced JB at the Mem! Yes |
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Post by JeffNZ on Nov 18, 2023 0:53:56 GMT
After an excruciatingly long and agonisingly drawn-out process, we can rest assured that the appointment of our future manager will be one of the highest quality and will undoubtedly be met with unanimous approval and the unwavering support of all Gasheads. |
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 18, 2023 8:58:13 GMT
After an excruciatingly long and agonisingly drawn-out process, we can rest assured that the appointment of our future manager will be one of the highest quality and will undoubtedly be met with unanimous approval and the unwavering support of all Gasheads. I think it's interesting that the owners had no-one directly in mind when they sacked the previous manager. It was almost as if they wanted to get him out the door at the first opportunity that presented itself. A poor (though not disastrous) start to the season. In mitigation, there were injuries. Everyone was surprised at the speed of the departure. Most were relieved, some were ecstatic. Teds, and a small minority of brain-washed sycophants were disappointed. Conclusion. A decision that had little to do with 'the football'. It's rarely we disagree Jeff - but I think whoever gets the job will have 'quality' and should have unanimous approval. Until we hit a poor run of form, or he gets charged with a criminal offence. |
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Post by bondigas on Nov 18, 2023 9:02:53 GMT
Not sure the new owners realised the cost of changing mananagers and whats involved. Barton and his foul mouthed mate are probably still on the payroll and could be for a long time yet. A new manager wouldn't want or trust the 8 or so appointed and contracted by Barton backroom staff to work with and would definitely wish to bring his own people into the club. Big cost there in clearing that lot out, leaving one option,the larikin who's managing the team now.
It will be interesting to see what develops, but it looks as if hands are financially tied preventing any new appointment.
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Post by JeffNZ on Nov 18, 2023 9:37:53 GMT
After an excruciatingly long and agonisingly drawn-out process, we can rest assured that the appointment of our future manager will be one of the highest quality and will undoubtedly be met with unanimous approval and the unwavering support of all Gasheads. I think it's interesting that the owners had no-one directly in mind when they sacked the previous manager. It was almost as if they wanted to get him out the door at the first opportunity that presented itself. A poor (though not disastrous) start to the season. In mitigation, there were injuries. Everyone was surprised at the speed of the departure. Most were relieved, some were ecstatic. Teds, and a small minority of brain-washed sycophants were disappointed. Conclusion. A decision that had little to do with 'the football'. It's rarely we disagree Jeff - but I think whoever gets the job will have 'quality' and should have unanimous approval. Until we hit a poor run of form, or he gets charged with a criminal offence. Epps, My post was an attempt at humour steeped in sarcasm and a dash of skepticism after reading that Wael is heading up the recruitment process. I also believe some Gasheads will take a long time to heal from the loss of their messiah, leaving unity a distant dream. Like you say, a run of good results should get them back on board a lot earlier. Let's all hope that is the case. EDIT: ...and this place would be as dull as an England match vs Malta if we all agreed all the time. |
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 18, 2023 9:41:32 GMT
Not sure the new owners realised the cost of changing mananagers and whats involved. Barton and his foul mouthed mate are probably still on the payroll and could be for a long time yet. A new manager wouldn't want or trust the 8 or so appointed and contracted by Barton backroom staff to work with and would definitely wish to bring his own people into the club. Big cost there in clearing that lot out, leaving one option,the larikin who's managing the team now. It will be interesting to see what develops, but it looks as if hands are financially tied preventing any new appointment. I would be a bit shocked if the new owners didn't do due diligence on what was involved in sacking the manager and other members of staff. But I've been shocked before. The previous manager and Colin Gibson have been sacked. Tom Gorringe seems to be on gardening leave - responding to emails but otherwise invisible. I don't wish him any ill, I just think that CEO was always going to be a stretch. Personally - I would like to see the back of Eddy Jennings and Chris Spendlove. They are distasteful characters, at best. I am starting to recognise the Club again. |
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 18, 2023 9:52:14 GMT
I think it's interesting that the owners had no-one directly in mind when they sacked the previous manager. It was almost as if they wanted to get him out the door at the first opportunity that presented itself. A poor (though not disastrous) start to the season. In mitigation, there were injuries. Everyone was surprised at the speed of the departure. Most were relieved, some were ecstatic. Teds, and a small minority of brain-washed sycophants were disappointed. Conclusion. A decision that had little to do with 'the football'. It's rarely we disagree Jeff - but I think whoever gets the job will have 'quality' and should have unanimous approval. Until we hit a poor run of form, or he gets charged with a criminal offence. Epps, My post was an attempt at humour steeped in sarcasm and a dash of skepticism after reading that Wael is heading up the recruitment process. I also believe some Gasheads will take a long time to heal from the loss of their messiah, leaving unity a distant dream. Like you say, a run of good results should get them back on board a lot earlier. Let's all hope that is the case. Wael is in charge of the recruitment process? Good grief. When I staunchly refused to accept the previous manager - I was told that 'no single person is bigger than the Club, and I needed to 'get over it'. So these are the same people who now can't accept him being sacked? Can't be many, surely? Cue Alanis Morisette. And isn't it ironic, don't you think? Suggestion: 'Get over it'. Or, don't attend matches. Interestingly the biggest attendance this season - Northampton at home, the game after the previous manager was sacked. Je reste ma valise. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2023 12:44:27 GMT
Not sure the new owners realised the cost of changing mananagers and whats involved. Barton and his foul mouthed mate are probably still on the payroll and could be for a long time yet. A new manager wouldn't want or trust the 8 or so appointed and contracted by Barton backroom staff to work with and would definitely wish to bring his own people into the club. Big cost there in clearing that lot out, leaving one option,the larikin who's managing the team now. It will be interesting to see what develops, but it looks as if hands are financially tied preventing any new appointment. Interesting. Following Bartons dismissal, the new owner made it clear he didn't approve of a management and coaching set up controlled exclusively by the manager. He has no option but to bite the bullet and clear them out sooner rather than later. You can rest assured that Barton through Mangan will be being given every bit of information that he wants to know regarding BRFC. No new man is going to come in and try to manage that lot unless he is desperate or naive and I have never met the latter in football management. Will the new owners actually consider Mangan considering his closeness to Barton? Barton is being very quiet bar a few veiled Tweets aimed at his previous employers but once he is off the payroll you can bet he will let fly with both barrels reminding the owners and the world how wonderful he is and what a massive mistake they have made. |
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Post by bondigas on Nov 18, 2023 21:37:52 GMT
I don't think the new owners have any other option but to go with Mangan. Its just mind blowingly expensive to get shot of those Barton appointed back room staff that Jennings tucked the club up with healthy ridiculous contracts for the league the team plays in, allowed thanks to a single individual proprietary approach to running the club.
So good luck to Barton MK 2 but wow will Barton turn on Mangan should he succeed.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Nov 18, 2023 23:03:31 GMT
Epps, My post was an attempt at humour steeped in sarcasm and a dash of skepticism after reading that Wael is heading up the recruitment process. I also believe some Gasheads will take a long time to heal from the loss of their messiah, leaving unity a distant dream. Like you say, a run of good results should get them back on board a lot earlier. Let's all hope that is the case. Wael is in charge of the recruitment process? Good grief. When I staunchly refused to accept the previous manager - I was told that 'no single person is bigger than the Club, and I needed to 'get over it'. So these are the same people who now can't accept him being sacked? Can't be many, surely? Cue Alanis Morisette. And isn't it ironic, don't you think? Suggestion: 'Get over it'. Or, don't attend matches. Interestingly the biggest attendance this season - Northampton at home, the game after the previous manager was sacked. Je reste ma valise. The Moment After the loss at home to Swindon, 9 out of 10 managers would have been sacked. Wael done right thing standing by Joey in those following days, as the second half of the season brought an amazing promotion. Barton owns that promotion, his own squad, full of backbone, leadership, hard running, and so many goals in the run in. But by standing by Joey, Wael forever owns it too. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2023 0:35:22 GMT
Wael is in charge of the recruitment process? Good grief. When I staunchly refused to accept the previous manager - I was told that 'no single person is bigger than the Club, and I needed to 'get over it'. So these are the same people who now can't accept him being sacked? Can't be many, surely? Cue Alanis Morisette. And isn't it ironic, don't you think? Suggestion: 'Get over it'. Or, don't attend matches. Interestingly the biggest attendance this season - Northampton at home, the game after the previous manager was sacked. Je reste ma valise. The Moment After the loss at home to Swindon, 9 out of 10 managers would have been sacked. Wael done right thing standing by Joey in those following days, as the second half of the season brought an amazing promotion. Barton owns that promotion, his own squad, full of backbone, leadership, hard running, and so many goals in the run in. But by standing by Joey, Wael forever owns it too. The promotion is on his CV as is his relegation. Not sure any club will ever give him a job to keep them up again. |
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Post by toteend3 on Nov 19, 2023 10:50:52 GMT
Iam not even sure he would get another job ‘per se’ he kinda slipped under the radar when Wael initially signed him up, however I really can’t see history repeating itself so for me. I don’t think any club will take him on,despite the fact that he’s undeniably very talented both as a player and as a manager
The 7-0 promotion victory, which he masterminded was arguably. the most amazing 90 minutes in the clubs history. Made more remarkable in respect than the vast majority of us ‘fancyed It, I so even jslapped on a ‘pony on it’
But the ‘red mist will never go away and his best chance for future employment maybe abroad where his toxicity will not be so much in the public eye.
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on Nov 19, 2023 14:15:12 GMT
Wael is in charge of the recruitment process? Good grief. When I staunchly refused to accept the previous manager - I was told that 'no single person is bigger than the Club, and I needed to 'get over it'. So these are the same people who now can't accept him being sacked? Can't be many, surely? Cue Alanis Morisette. And isn't it ironic, don't you think? Suggestion: 'Get over it'. Or, don't attend matches. Interestingly the biggest attendance this season - Northampton at home, the game after the previous manager was sacked. Je reste ma valise. The Moment After the loss at home to Swindon, 9 out of 10 managers would have been sacked. Wael done right thing standing by Joey in those following days, as the second half of the season brought an amazing promotion. Barton owns that promotion, his own squad, full of backbone, leadership, hard running, and so many goals in the run in. But by standing by Joey, Wael forever owns it too. as he does our limp relegation the season before, getting rid of Coughlan when perhaps we might have got to the Championship and employing the hapless Benny |
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Post by Blue Mist on Nov 19, 2023 15:03:37 GMT
Still don’t understand the Coughlan departure. Was there ever a logical explanation. Most of the time, even if you don’t agree, you can see a reason for getting rid or manager leaving but the Coughlan situation was odd to say the least.
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Post by swissgas on Nov 19, 2023 15:18:53 GMT
Still don’t understand the Coughlan departure. Was there ever a logical explanation. Most of the time, even if you don’t agree, you can see a reason for getting rid or manager leaving but the Coughlan situation was odd to say the least. The story I’ve heard is that Graham Coughlan wasn’t really Wael’s kind of manager because, shall we say, he isn’t “Instagram friendly”. And GC was badly let down after being promised he could sign Liam Scales from Ireland ( now an international), made a commitment on behalf of Rovers to complete the transfer, and was then told by his bosses that the deal was off. Apparently Tony Pulis had been in Wael’s ear pushing Ben Garner for a long time and Garner was attending Rovers matches as a guest. So when Coughlan’s frustration boiled over Garner was primed and ready to step in and implement the new, carefully planned, “ Rovers DNA” strategy. |
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Post by a more piratey game on Nov 19, 2023 17:00:51 GMT
Still don’t understand the Coughlan departure. Was there ever a logical explanation. Most of the time, even if you don’t agree, you can see a reason for getting rid or manager leaving but the Coughlan situation was odd to say the least. The story I’ve heard is that Graham Coughlan wasn’t really Wael’s kind of manager because, shall we say, he isn’t “Instagram friendly”. And GC was badly let down after being promised he could sign Liam Scales from Ireland ( now an international), made a commitment on behalf of Rovers to complete the transfer, and was then told by his bosses that the deal was off. Apparently Tony Pulis had been in Wael’s ear pushing Ben Garner for a long time and Garner was attending Rovers matches as a guest. So when Coughlan’s frustration boiled over Garner was primed and ready to step in and implement the new, carefully planned, “ Rovers DNA” strategy. I remember Hamer speaking about it on the radio. He said that GC was appointed as a sort of Big Sam appointment (not Hamer's phrase tbf) - to keep us up Once that had been achieved, and we were high in the table, the Board felt that this style of football wasn't going to take us much further and the league position gave a big of wriggle room to invest in a more long-term approach that might make us competitive in the division above - hence Bennie Boy's arrival |
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Post by bluetornados on Nov 19, 2023 17:22:53 GMT
Former Celtic and Leeds United figures ruled out of the running for Bristol Rovers role..by Adam Elliott.
Bristol Rovers are in search of a new manager after sacking Joey Barton over three weeks ago due to poor results.
Garry Monk and Ian Holloway were early potential candidates, but talks with Dean Holden and Callum Davidson have also taken place.
Recent reports suggest that Bristol Rovers are set to hold talks with Matt Taylor, who was recently sacked by Rotherham United.
Bristol Rovers are still in search of a new manager to replace Joey Barton in the dugout at the Memorial Stadium, with two further candidates ruled out.
The controversial Barton was sacked by the Gas hierarchy on October 26, which was now over three weeks ago, after three matches without a victory.
Barton had been in charge of Rovers for over two-and-a-half years, so the need to get their next appointment right is crucial, and it is the first appointment under new chairman Hussain AlSaaed after he completed a majority takeover of the company that owns the Pirates back in August.
Garry Monk and Ian Holloway had emerged as early potential candidates for the managerial role, according to the Bristol Post.
The Rovers' hierarchy had initially held talks with former Bristol City manager Dean Holden, whilst ex-St. Johnstone boss Callum Davidson has also been linked.
A more recent report from Bristol Live claimed that Bristol Rovers are set to hold talks with Matt Taylor, who could be set for a swift return to management after his sacking by Rotherham United.
Caretaker boss Andy Mangan, who was Barton's assistant at both Rovers and Fleetwood Town, is unbeaten in his five matches in charge, which includes two wins and a draw in League One action to move them up to ninth in the standings.
Mangan has revealed he would be keen on taking on the job on a full-time basis, but the competition is fierce with plenty of names from outside of the club linked with the job, too.
More recent names that Rovers want to talk to include Neil Lennon and Karl Robinson.
According to Sunday Mirror Sports Editor Darren Witcoop, the former Celtic manager has been mentioned in discussions when it comes to Barton's replacement, whilst Witcoop has also outlined the former Oxford United boss is being looked at by the Gas.
Robinson is said to have recently turned down the vacant Bradford City job as he has no desire to manage lower than League One level. His most recent role came as an assistant to Sam Allardyce with Leeds United. However, Robinson has a wealth of experience with the likes of MK Dons, Charlton Atletic, and Oxford.
Witcoop has since ruled out the pair in a more recent update, he explained: "As it stands, Neil Lennon no longer under consideration for Bristol Rovers manager’s job and Karl Robinson also out of picture. Talks with candidates ongoing but the longer it drags on, the Andy Mangan option gets stronger."
He continued by explaining that the likes of Taylor and Monk are still under consideration and it is not guaranteed to be Mangan.
Monk has been out of work for an extended period of time now, with Taylor perhaps the most obvious candidate, who has shown adaptability in his playing style with Exeter City, whilst also a manager with serious know-how in the EFL.
He had Exeter playing attractive, free-flowing football in League Two, but has had to show other sides to his coaching credentials with Rotherham in the Championship by employing a more pragmatic style.
The Gas squad is currently brimming with attacking flair and he could be the sensible choice to get them back to playing that attractive brand of football they will wish to see. Mangan has done well but experience could be what tips things in Taylor's favour.
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Post by swissgas on Nov 19, 2023 17:33:20 GMT
The story I’ve heard is that Graham Coughlan wasn’t really Wael’s kind of manager because, shall we say, he isn’t “Instagram friendly”. And GC was badly let down after being promised he could sign Liam Scales from Ireland ( now an international), made a commitment on behalf of Rovers to complete the transfer, and was then told by his bosses that the deal was off. Apparently Tony Pulis had been in Wael’s ear pushing Ben Garner for a long time and Garner was attending Rovers matches as a guest. So when Coughlan’s frustration boiled over Garner was primed and ready to step in and implement the new, carefully planned, “ Rovers DNA” strategy. I remember Hamer speaking about it on the radio. He said that GC was appointed as a sort of Big Sam appointment (not Hamer's phrase tbf) - to keep us up Once that had been achieved, and we were high in the table, the Board felt that this style of football wasn't going to take us much further and the league position gave a big of wriggle room to invest in a more long-term approach that might make us competitive in the division above - hence Bennie Boy's arrival Graham Coughlan was appointed as caretaker in mid December 2018 when DC left and Rovers were 19th. A few weeks later, on January 6th 2019, he had got Rovers up to 15th and was given a 2 1/2 year contract. www.skysports.com/football/news/11763/11600261/bristol-rovers-appoint-graham-coughlan-manager |
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Post by a more piratey game on Nov 19, 2023 17:55:16 GMT
I remember Hamer speaking about it on the radio. He said that GC was appointed as a sort of Big Sam appointment (not Hamer's phrase tbf) - to keep us up Once that had been achieved, and we were high in the table, the Board felt that this style of football wasn't going to take us much further and the league position gave a big of wriggle room to invest in a more long-term approach that might make us competitive in the division above - hence Bennie Boy's arrival Graham Coughlan was appointed as caretaker in mid December 2018 when DC left and Rovers were 19th. A few weeks later, on January 6th 2019, he had got Rovers up to 15th and was given a 2 1/2 year contract. www.skysports.com/football/news/11763/11600261/bristol-rovers-appoint-graham-coughlan-managerthe 19th place thing lines up with my recollection weren't we in about 3rd after his little meltdown at Ipswich - which I think was just before Christmas (it was quite cold) - after which he departed, so he had about a year in the job? |
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