eppinggas
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 10, 2023 18:11:46 GMT
"And to show balance, I am disgusted with the Israeli land grabs in the West Bank." But Epping It is exactly that kind of behaviour which drives Palestinians into the arms of extremists. We keep saying it, resolve the behaviour of Zionist extremists and the solution follows. Sadly that's not going to happen because these extremists are now in a coalition government in Israel. Israel is in the same grip of extremism as the Palestinians are. You seriously can't equate Netanyahu with the leaders of Hamas oldie. The latter murdered innocent men, women, children and babies. The former want to wipe out the perpetrators of this evil. In the process, innocent Palestinians will die. War is brutal. I truly hope when the dust settles and Hamas are wiped out, that Israel finds a way to live alongside a new independent Palestine. I agree that there is not much chance of that with Netanyahu. On a positive note, that right wing coalition won't survive long. |
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Post by oldie on Nov 10, 2023 19:00:04 GMT
"And to show balance, I am disgusted with the Israeli land grabs in the West Bank." But Epping It is exactly that kind of behaviour which drives Palestinians into the arms of extremists. We keep saying it, resolve the behaviour of Zionist extremists and the solution follows. Sadly that's not going to happen because these extremists are now in a coalition government in Israel. Israel is in the same grip of extremism as the Palestinians are. You seriously can't equate Netanyahu with the leaders of Hamas oldie. The latter murdered innocent men, women, children and babies. The former want to wipe out the perpetrators of this evil. In the process, innocent Palestinians will die. War is brutal. I truly hope when the dust settles and Hamas are wiped out, that Israel finds a way to live alongside a new independent Palestine. I agree that there is not much chance of that with Netanyahu. On a positive note, that right wing coalition won't survive long. I do equally compare Zionist extremists with HAMAS. Absolutely. And I do compare the nature of the ruling fascists in GAZA with the nature of the current Israeli government and all their governments since they decided that booting Palestinians from their land was "ok" Both religion based societies are equally insane. Laugh at both of them, in real time, then maybe we can move on. |
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Post by russiangas on Nov 10, 2023 22:43:48 GMT
"And to show balance, I am disgusted with the Israeli land grabs in the West Bank." But Epping It is exactly that kind of behaviour which drives Palestinians into the arms of extremists. We keep saying it, resolve the behaviour of Zionist extremists and the solution follows. Sadly that's not going to happen because these extremists are now in a coalition government in Israel. Israel is in the same grip of extremism as the Palestinians are. Exactly, Israel is basically an ethnocracy. Did anyone see the pictures of an Israeli settler shooting an unarmed man in the West Bank while an Israeli soldier stood by and watched, and the disabled boy shot dead by the Israeli army? If these acts aren't extremism than what is? A secular and moderate administration on both sides is needed to work towards a solution. Unfortunately I can't see this happening any time soon, the actions of Israel killing so many civilians surely is only likely to radicalise more Palestinians and convince them to join Hamas. |
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eppinggas
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 11, 2023 9:12:56 GMT
You seriously can't equate Netanyahu with the leaders of Hamas oldie. The latter murdered innocent men, women, children and babies. The former want to wipe out the perpetrators of this evil. In the process, innocent Palestinians will die. War is brutal. I truly hope when the dust settles and Hamas are wiped out, that Israel finds a way to live alongside a new independent Palestine. I agree that there is not much chance of that with Netanyahu. On a positive note, that right wing coalition won't survive long. I do equally compare Zionist extremists with HAMAS. Absolutely. And I do compare the nature of the ruling fascists in GAZA with the nature of the current Israeli government and all their governments since they decided that booting Palestinians from their land was "ok" Both religion based societies are equally insane. Laugh at both of them, in real time, then maybe we can move on. Zionist extremists are appalling. Netanyahu is not a Zionist extremist, but his coalition is propped up by Zionist extremists. This is not healthy. On this we can agree. I do not equate The Israeli Government with Hamas, you do. I guess it becomes a moot point in a month or so. Because Hamas will cease to exist. |
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Post by trymer on Nov 11, 2023 10:08:36 GMT
"And to show balance, I am disgusted with the Israeli land grabs in the West Bank." But Epping It is exactly that kind of behaviour which drives Palestinians into the arms of extremists. We keep saying it, resolve the behaviour of Zionist extremists and the solution follows. Sadly that's not going to happen because these extremists are now in a coalition government in Israel. Israel is in the same grip of extremism as the Palestinians are. Exactly, Israel is basically an ethnocracy. Did anyone see the pictures of an Israeli settler shooting an unarmed man in the West Bank while an Israeli soldier stood by and watched, and the disabled boy shot dead by the Israeli army? If these acts aren't extremism than what is? A secular and moderate administration on both sides is needed to work towards a solution. Unfortunately I can't see this happening any time soon, the actions of Israel killing so many civilians surely is only likely to radicalise more Palestinians and convince them to join Hamas. I agree,and in 10 years time the kids (the ones who survive) who are getting bombed and losing family members now will join Hamas and be even more full of hate and radical. |
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Post by oldie on Nov 11, 2023 11:45:26 GMT
Exactly, Israel is basically an ethnocracy. Did anyone see the pictures of an Israeli settler shooting an unarmed man in the West Bank while an Israeli soldier stood by and watched, and the disabled boy shot dead by the Israeli army? If these acts aren't extremism than what is? A secular and moderate administration on both sides is needed to work towards a solution. Unfortunately I can't see this happening any time soon, the actions of Israel killing so many civilians surely is only likely to radicalise more Palestinians and convince them to join Hamas. I agree,and in 10 years time the kids (the ones who survive) who are getting bombed and losing family members now will join Hamas and be even more full of hate and radical. They won't be joining HAMAS. HAMAS will be destroyed. Those that wish to, there will be 10s of 1000s, will finally realise that being in a weak guerilla organisation lobbing low level missiles just leads to defeat and death. They more likely to want to be better organised, trained and funded. Other Arab states will want to wash their hands of this disaster eventually what with all their money being laundered in the West. So welcome Hesbollah, supported by the Iranians. Now with a large faction not just ideologically in opposition to Israel, but now full of hatred and blood lust, revenge. So many having witnessed their homes destroyed, parents killed, siblings killed, their children killed. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2023 10:09:50 GMT
Good and bad points on both sides here. Please remember Israelis are not all Jews: Israeli Arabs are a significant minority. Conversely, please remember Palestinians (while as far as I know all Arabs) are not all Muslims: Palestinian Christians are a significant minority. Netanyahu and Hamas are not so dissimilar in their callous disregard for the deaths of civilian Jews and Arabs alike, including women and children. They differ in other ways. Hamas Jihadis enjoy raping and mutilating.
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Post by trymer on Nov 16, 2023 10:20:48 GMT
Did anyone see the picture of a woman on the pro Palestine march in London last Saturday carrying a placard depicting Sunak and Braverman as COCONUTS ? obviously racist and how she wasnt arrested I dont know, Police are now looking for her and apparently she is a teacher !!!!!!!!!
Police also pictured at the march last Saturday with a child dressed as a terrorist ! WTF is going on ?
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Post by Nobbygas on Nov 16, 2023 11:23:49 GMT
Did anyone see the picture of a woman on the pro Palestine march in London last Saturday carrying a placard depicting Sunak and Braverman as COCONUTS ? obviously racist and how she wasnt arrested I dont know, Police are now looking for her and apparently she is a teacher !!!!!!!!! Police also pictured at the march last Saturday with a child dressed as a terrorist ! WTF is going on ? Have you seen the pictures of people climbing on war memorials last night, with the Police just standing and watching? Apparently, the Police claim that it is not breaking the law to clamber over and potentially damage the memorials........and people complain when Joe Public decides enough is enough, and if the Police will not protect our sacred memorials we'll have to do it ourselves. No doubt the Police will label anyone doing this as "extreme right-wingers" and then the riot gear will come out. I cannot believe in this day and age we are openly allowing people to be racist on the streets of the UK and nothing is done about it. |
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Post by oldie on Nov 16, 2023 12:25:28 GMT
Did anyone see the picture of a woman on the pro Palestine march in London last Saturday carrying a placard depicting Sunak and Braverman as COCONUTS ? obviously racist and how she wasnt arrested I dont know, Police are now looking for her and apparently she is a teacher !!!!!!!!! Police also pictured at the march last Saturday with a child dressed as a terrorist ! WTF is going on ? Have you seen the pictures of people climbing on war memorials last night, with the Police just standing and watching? Apparently, the Police claim that it is not breaking the law to clamber over and potentially damage the memorials........and people complain when Joe Public decides enough is enough, and if the Police will not protect our sacred memorials we'll have to do it ourselves. No doubt the Police will label anyone doing this as "extreme right-wingers" and then the riot gear will come out. I cannot believe in this day and age we are openly allowing people to be racist on the streets of the UK and nothing is done about it. Shock horror but I have a lot of sympathy for the view that racism should be stamped on. All the loonies "protecting" the Cenotaph last weekend should have been arrested on that charge. Similarly idiots on the Palestine protest march who undermine the core message by expressing racist and arguably violent views should be arrested. However, sadly, we had a Home Secretary who muddied the waters and placed the Police in a difficult position with her choice of language. |
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Post by Nobbygas on Nov 16, 2023 14:15:37 GMT
Have you seen the pictures of people climbing on war memorials last night, with the Police just standing and watching? Apparently, the Police claim that it is not breaking the law to clamber over and potentially damage the memorials........and people complain when Joe Public decides enough is enough, and if the Police will not protect our sacred memorials we'll have to do it ourselves. No doubt the Police will label anyone doing this as "extreme right-wingers" and then the riot gear will come out. I cannot believe in this day and age we are openly allowing people to be racist on the streets of the UK and nothing is done about it. Shock horror but I have a lot of sympathy for the view that racism should be stamped on. All the loonies "protecting" the Cenotaph last weekend should have been arrested on that charge. Similarly idiots on the Palestine protest march who undermine the core message by expressing racist and arguably violent views should be arrested. However, sadly, we had a Home Secretary who muddied the waters and placed the Police in a difficult position with her choice of language. The Police were not placed in a difficult position. |
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Post by oldie on Nov 16, 2023 18:14:11 GMT
Shock horror but I have a lot of sympathy for the view that racism should be stamped on. All the loonies "protecting" the Cenotaph last weekend should have been arrested on that charge. Similarly idiots on the Palestine protest march who undermine the core message by expressing racist and arguably violent views should be arrested. However, sadly, we had a Home Secretary who muddied the waters and placed the Police in a difficult position with her choice of language. The Police were not placed in a difficult position. if you ay so...  What actually was said Go Suella, (far away please) Then who turned up at the Cenotaph?, a violent band of nationalist thugs. |
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Post by trymer on Nov 17, 2023 10:35:17 GMT
Did anyone see the picture of a woman on the pro Palestine march in London last Saturday carrying a placard depicting Sunak and Braverman as COCONUTS ? obviously racist and how she wasnt arrested I dont know, Police are now looking for her and apparently she is a teacher !!!!!!!!! Police also pictured at the march last Saturday with a child dressed as a terrorist ! WTF is going on ? Have you seen the pictures of people climbing on war memorials last night, with the Police just standing and watching? Apparently, the Police claim that it is not breaking the law to clamber over and potentially damage the memorials........and people complain when Joe Public decides enough is enough, and if the Police will not protect our sacred memorials we'll have to do it ourselves. No doubt the Police will label anyone doing this as "extreme right-wingers" and then the riot gear will come out. I cannot believe in this day and age we are openly allowing people to be racist on the streets of the UK and nothing is done about it. Yes I saw that,hopefully new laws will be made (and enforced) protecting war memorials from these t0ssers. These pro Palestine marchers are so open and arrogant with their racism its amazing,a lot of ordinary people having their eyes opened by these events. |
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Post by trymer on Nov 17, 2023 10:37:10 GMT
IDF reporting that they have found the body of a 19 year old female soldier who was taken hostage,can only imagine what she went through at the hands of her captors.
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Post by lostinspace on Dec 5, 2023 21:55:12 GMT
IDF reporting that they have found the body of a 19 year old female soldier who was taken hostage,can only imagine what she went through at the hands of her captors. [b Reports today of alleged mass rape and murder and mutilation carried out on females on the day of the attack, apparently counting in hundreds of victims brutally assaulted by attacking Hamas terrorists ... |
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Post by trymer on Dec 16, 2023 13:26:25 GMT
Reports that IDF soldiers shot and killed 3 Israeli hostages in Gaza who were carrying a white flag !...all 3 shot and one was able to run off but he was shot again and killed.
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Post by trymer on Jan 3, 2024 16:50:53 GMT
A top Hamas official assassinated in Lebanon now 100 + people killed in a bombing at a memorial service in Iran,slowly but surely this war is spreading across the region.
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Post by oldie on Jan 3, 2024 18:31:16 GMT
A top Hamas official assassinated in Lebanon now 100 + people killed in a bombing at a memorial service in Iran,slowly but surely this war is spreading across the region. Imagine the uproar if a memorial service was targeted in the UK or USA which killed over 100 people. |
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Post by Nobbygas on Jan 4, 2024 10:36:52 GMT
A top Hamas official assassinated in Lebanon now 100 + people killed in a bombing at a memorial service in Iran,slowly but surely this war is spreading across the region. Imagine the uproar if a memorial service was targeted in the UK or USA which killed over 100 people. "The explosions came at a memorial ceremony in Iran marking the fourth anniversary of the killing of Qassem Suleimani, the head of Iran’s al-Quds force, and it was not clear whether either of Suleimani’s principal regional adversaries – Israel or Islamic State – were responsible for the carnage. Iran’s new minister of interior, the hardliner Ahmad Vahidi, did not immediately attribute blame for the attack and no side claimed responsibility for the deadliest single terrorist incident since the Iranian Revolution in 1979. The US state department said it had no reason to believe Israel was involved." The likeliest answer is that it was home-grown opposition to the Iranian regime. There is no valid reason whatsoever to try to lay the blame on Israel or the US. |
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Post by Nobbygas on Jan 4, 2024 10:38:14 GMT
A top Hamas official assassinated in Lebanon now 100 + people killed in a bombing at a memorial service in Iran,slowly but surely this war is spreading across the region. Iran has been spreading "this war" across the region for years. |
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