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Post by gasprom on Nov 12, 2022 18:11:11 GMT
Legendary anti-Rangers ref gifts Celtic legend Scott Brown a point shocker The guy was a joke north of the border where the standard of refereeing is famously terrible. He’s reffing in league one to see if he’s good enough to be promoted. Guess what - he’s not. Send him back to bloody Scotland |
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Nov 12, 2022 19:03:06 GMT
We won 2-1. I’ve not felt this cheated since Notts County in 2001.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2022 19:24:58 GMT
We won 2-1. I’ve not felt this cheated since Notts County in 2001. Can't disagree with that.
I know its easy to get caught up in the emotion, but that was one of the most abysmal referring performances I can recall.
Absolutely shocking. Cheated is the correct term.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2022 19:32:20 GMT
Legendary anti-Rangers ref gifts Celtic legend Scott Brown a point shocker The guy was a joke north of the border where the standard of refereeing is famously terrible. He’s reffing in league one to see if he’s good enough to be promoted. Guess what - he’s not. Send him back to bloody Scotland Only when you posted that did it make sense exactly who it was...an absolute clown and his middle names are probably Tim and Parkhead. My brother/friend Father Jack is right. We were cheated. |
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Post by Bath Gas on Nov 12, 2022 23:11:32 GMT
As the old song goes, "The referee's a w****r". 9th minute of 7 added on and oh look, equaliser. Scott Brown/Fergie time. Daylight f**king robbery. Agree, the Ref was awful throughout the match. The linesman in front of the South/West stand ran him a close second. |
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Post by bluetornados on Nov 13, 2022 6:19:03 GMT
BRFC 2 Fleetwood 2 - 62% - 38% - Shots 13-13 - On Target 3-5 - Corners 8-2 - Fouls 15-14 - Yellows 4-2 - Referee: Bobby Madden - Attendance: 8,829 (210 away) Rovers were denied all three points as a late equaliser for Fleetwood Town deep into stoppage time forced a 2-2 draw. After progression in the FA Cup, Rovers returned to league action as Barton made two changes to the side against Rochdale. Lewis Gibson came in for James Connolly and Josh Coburn replaced Luke McCormick. www.bristolrovers.co.uk/contentassets/cf43705f80c8452aa291de23816de888/jmp_bristol-rovers-v-fleetwood-town_0015.jpgAhead of kick-off, there was an impeccably observed remembrance silence. The first key moment of the first half arrived with eight minutes on the clock as a long punt forward from visiting goalkeeper Jay Lynch could have caused danger at the back for Rovers, but James Belshaw was alive to the danger to come off his line and head the ball away. For the away side, Carlos Mendes-Gomes then showed a nice touch to take the ball around the corner and take the ball past the Gas backline but captain Sam Finley made a key intervention. Fleetwood took an early lead with less than a quarter of an hour played when the Gas failed to deal with a cross from the left wing. The ball eventually dropped to Shaun Rooney at the back post who clinically converted past Belshaw into the bottom corner. Rovers looked to hit back and Coburn did well to win a free kick that Anthony Evans stepped up to take and forced a corner, although the Gas could not capitalise on it as Fleetwood cleared their lines. Goalscorer Rooney then won a free kick on the edge of the box. Danny Andrew curled an effort on target but it didn’t trouble Belshaw as the Rovers goalkeeper made a comfortable save. The Gas then came forward when Collins twisted and turned and played a pass inside to Jordan Rossiter. Rossiter then curled a shot that Lynch acrobatically tipped away. The best chance for Rovers before the interval was when a free kick from Evans was whipped into the box and found the free head of Gibson, but he headed over from the edge of the six-yard area as the away side took a slender advantage into the break. Rovers started the second half on the front foot and could have levelled the scores three minutes. Collins was played through and his shot went narrowly wide of Lynch’s far post. Collins and Coburn were combining well as the former looked to slide in the latter but his pass was just overhit and Lynch gathered. Just before the hour mark, the scores were level and it was those two again at the heart of it. The Gas broke downfield on the counterattack and Collins burst down the left flank before curling in an inch-perfect cross for Coburn to fire home from close range. www.bristolrovers.co.uk/contentassets/cf43705f80c8452aa291de23816de888/jmp_bristol-rovers-v-fleetwood-town_0034.jpgThe momentum had definitely swung in favour of Rovers as the Fleetwood backline came under a sustained period of pressure. Collins nearly made it two minutes later but his lob over the onrushing Lynch agonizingly landed on top of the net. The Rovers’ number 10 then robbed the ball high up the pitch and slipped Coburn in behind but he couldn’t find the target from inside the box. With just under ten minutes to play the pressure eventually told as the Gas took the lead for the first time on the afternoon. Collins rose highest in the box to head past Lynch and at last the Rovers had the lead. www.bristolrovers.co.uk/contentassets/cf43705f80c8452aa291de23816de888/jmp_bristol-rovers-v-fleetwood-town_0046.jpgRovers manager, Joey Barton was sent off late on in a feisty end to the game. With the clock in injury time Fleetwood won a free kick. The away side launched the ball long and eventually worked it out wide. The ball was then crossed into the box where Rooney headed into the corner to deny Rovers all three points at the death. Next up for Rovers is the challenge Peterborough United at The Mem on Saturday 19th November (3pm) Rovers: Belshaw, Gordon, Thomas, Gibson, Gibbons, Finley (C), Rossiter, Evans, Collins, Coburn, Sinclair. Substitutes: Jaakkola, Connolly, Marquis, Clarke, Saunders, McCormick, Hoole. Fleetwood Town: Lynch, Andrew, Sarpong-Wiredu, Mendes Gomes, Vela (C), Morton, Warrington, Nsiala, Rooney, Earl, Baker Substitutes: Stolarczyk, Lane, Garner, Holgate, Garner, Omochere, Batty |
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Post by bluetornados on Nov 13, 2022 6:56:58 GMT
Robert Adam Madden, 44 (born 25th October 1978) is a Scottish football referee. Madden became a FIFA referee in 2010. He officiated in 2014 World Cup qualifiers, beginning with the match between Germany and the Faroe Islands. He left the FIFA list in 2022, as he moved from Scotland to England and started officiating in EFL League One and EFL League Two games. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0f/Bobby_Madden_2019.jpg/220px-Bobby_Madden_2019.jpgJoey Barton was sent off by Bobby Madden in this Scott Brown reunion as Fleetwood net 99th minute leveller. i2-prod.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article25321121.ece/ALTERNATES/s810/0_Bristol-Rovers-v-Chelsea-U21-Papa-Johns-Trophy.jpgJoey Barton was sent off in his reunion with former Old Firm rival Scott Brown on the touchline after he was shown a red card by Bobby Madden. The former Rangers player and current Bristol Rovers manager was sent off by the ex-SPFL whistler in the 89th minute before Fleetwood scored a 99th minute leveller to earn a point in a compelling 2-2 draw at the Memorial Stadium earlier this afternoon. Rovers cried foul over Barton’s dismissal. “I don’t think there was anything untoward,” assistant manager Andy Mangan said.“I was close to him. And I think the referee probably got a bit heated. I saw a yellow card in his hand and then out of nowhere he brings out the red. I am not sure why that happened.” Another Scottish Premiership old boy got in on the act as well, with defender Shaun Rooney, formerly of St Johnstone, scoring a brace for Brown's boys. He put the visitors into an early lead before goals from Josh Coburn and Aaron Collins completed the turnaround and looked to have secured a win for the Gas. But Rooney, who joined the League One side in the summer, headed home a 99th minute equaliser, sparking jubilant scenes on the touchline amongst Brown and his staff. Other Bobby Madden News:WHAT A START: Bobby Madden’s debut outing as referee in English football ends with bizarre red card and nasty injury. Madden was the man in the middle for the Bradford v Doncaster Rovers game in their League Two clash at Valley Parade. But there was no easing in for the Scot as he was blasted for his reaction to a nasty tackle and forced into a bizarre sending off, booking the same player twice within seconds. A second player was shown red in the EIGHTH minute of stoppage time at the end of the second half. Bradford fans were raging with Madden's decision to only award a yellow card to Doncaster's Liam Ravenhill following a dangerous lunge on Emmanuel Osadebe. Scottish referee Bobby Madden was forced to sell his house as he battles bankruptcy over unpaid tax debts. The whistler faces the threat of going bust if he fails to reach an agreement after being taken to court by the taxman. |
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Post by alftupper on Nov 13, 2022 7:02:02 GMT
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Post by rufustfirefly on Nov 13, 2022 8:04:48 GMT
While agreeing with all the above comments with regard the woeful Madden I think Mangans post match interview was spot on.
Gibbons gave the left back to much room that resulted in the first goal....Fleetwood stopped Rovers building from the back in the first half.
Resorting to a back 3 and going more direct in the second half paid off - Fleetwood struggled to get out of their own half.
The Gas should have been 3 or 4 goals to the good when the clock indicated the 99th minute had been played.
Back to Madden...surely a ref with financial difficulties and a woeful performance should be investigated for any suggestion of match fixing.
Still fuming that Rovers were only rewarded with a point.
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Post by toteend3 on Nov 13, 2022 8:11:29 GMT
We won 2-1. I’ve not felt this cheated since Notts County in 2001. Agreed and last night in the pub I had to keep correcting myself when asked how did we get on (we lost in the 99th minute) The ref loses his house and we’re sold down the river!……………….. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Nov 14, 2022 8:23:45 GMT
Just got back..
Wow incredible few days.
I'm sure this won't sit right with some, but from going from a nice light show on 83 mins, we went to a sh!t show and an art on how to give the game away.
A tale of two halves.
First half, you have to give credit to Fleetwood because they out done the Rovers way by hurrying us, hassling us and not letting us play the way we wanted. Yes, they were game playing too with kicking the ball away etc., but their whole passing and movement was far sharper than us and it felt like we were hardly out the blocks. Nice finish for their first.
Rossiter had a nice shot acrobatically saved was as much as we could muster.
Second half obviously the change of taking Gibbons off reaped more reward. Our attack became more potent and tempo higher. They tried to defend high up, which fell into our arms because Scotty had switched sides and was running at them, forcing them back and link with Evans.... also, we had a further threat of C & C up front that they struggled to contain. This gave us initiative and made for a more exciting watch if you're a GasHead.
It certainly shut their fans up.
Rightly so.
Which brings us on to the elephant in the room and probably the most disgraceful decision making ref this season so far. Inconsistencies. So many times they knew Collins was major threat so fouled him early in build up to halt play, kick ball away. Lost count how many times Coburn was man handled. It appears these weren't worthy of cards , yet one infringement from us was punished immediately.
The non award of penalties, I can't honestly say we deserved any of them in second half because of the angle of my view, but we dive far too much for my liking.....which swings me back to my main point:
We were the architects of our own downfall.
We allowed the situation to distract us, by rising (in actual fact, lowering) to the bait of time wasting and arguing with the ref.
Unfortunately, a captain should captain the whole team and we should have had stronger mindset and remainef professional by not letting these tactics get to us or be distracted.
So I saw this as 2 points lost.
Some great performances there.
Rossiter just threw himself at the cause and made a double block in second half.
Finley was playing some sublime bisection of defence passes.
Gordon was dangerous going forward, but not so sure of his defensive abilities. Nor am I of Gibbons. I just haven't seen anything yet. Maybe he's homesick?
Nice to see Gibson back, for me, him and Connolly I really like.
Coburn looks class.
Collins one goal and one assist has just become an absolute gem to watch....all since Oxford in cup last season around a year ago. Although he and above could have put the game to bed and all the controversy would not be talked about.
Fleetwood horrible fall down gamesmanship baiting the fans team....such a shame they have to resort to that....we have the tools to defeat that quite handsomely and chose a different way. They got what they came for, and we let them off the hook by allowing it.
Oh yeah and some naughtiness in away end (?) capped a much talked about day, even without JAB doing his Russell Osman impression.
What more could possibly go wrong!?
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Post by The Concept on Nov 14, 2022 18:34:29 GMT
Sun song and the Mem on Saturday, what could possibly go wrong? As we've outsourced almost everything, I hope we haven't employed the buglar boy from the Torquay Derby match?
Genuine Les Dawson stuff (for those of a certain disposition). Massive respect for Remembrance Day observations. Tough match today, but probably one of the more easier of times to play Fleetwood where they haven't found their form yet. Us in contrast, have performance and results that betray our league position....but then there's nothing wrong with coming from behind, or even going unnoticed for a bit. Is it wrong to be a little confident? Gas 2-0. Probably will be one goal margin in the end. See some on the Road, and a few others in the same old place .... Hope to get back*hic!*. One day. UptheGas... Bit harsh! He started off on the wrong note (so to speak), and the first 5 seconds or so were up and down and off key, but to his credit he pulled it round and got back on track. As someone who played the bugle in the BB, in my younger days, I can say that it ain't easy. It's all down to your lips and puff. Your lips will harden over time, and they can't be too wet or too dry. No reeds to help, like other wind instruments, or values like most trumpets or cornets, to change your pitch. Then add in the large audience to play in front of (with increase pressure of being on TV), you're outside, the weather is cold, you're playing The Last Post (which you can get muddled and lost in) and then there is the occasion and poignancy itself - I wouldn't want to do it! |
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Post by The Concept on Nov 14, 2022 18:40:03 GMT
Someone near me said they thought Coburn was offside for our first
Having watched the video I have to agree that he was slightly in front of the play - just as well we had rubbish officials ... ahem!
Probably would have been picked up if we had VAR in our league.
We did miss 3 one-on-ones, but maybe the score should have been 1-1.
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Post by Bath Gas on Nov 15, 2022 5:23:05 GMT
Sun song and the Mem on Saturday, what could possibly go wrong? As we've outsourced almost everything, I hope we haven't employed the buglar boy from the Torquay Derby match?
Genuine Les Dawson stuff (for those of a certain disposition). Massive respect for Remembrance Day observations. Tough match today, but probably one of the more easier of times to play Fleetwood where they haven't found their form yet. Us in contrast, have performance and results that betray our league position....but then there's nothing wrong with coming from behind, or even going unnoticed for a bit. Is it wrong to be a little confident? Gas 2-0. Probably will be one goal margin in the end. See some on the Road, and a few others in the same old place .... Hope to get back*hic!*. One day. UptheGas... Bit harsh! He started off on the wrong note (so to speak), and the first 5 seconds or so were up and down and off key, but to his credit he pulled it round and got back on track. As someone who played the bugle in the BB, in my younger days, I can say that it ain't easy. It's all down to your lips and puff. Your lips will harden over time, and they can't be too wet or too dry. No reeds to help, like other wind instruments, or values like most trumpets or cornets, to change your pitch. Then add in the large audience to play in front of (with increase pressure of being on TV), you're outside, the weather is cold, you're playing The Last Post (which you can get muddled and lost in) and then there is the occasion and poignancy itself - I wouldn't want to do it! I’m no expert, I thought he did a fairly good job of it. Can’t imagine how nerve wracking it must be, all eyes, and ears focussed on you. Thank you to him for giving his time for this. |
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Post by Cheshiregas on Nov 15, 2022 8:42:03 GMT
I admire any good musician especially those who can play in front of a large audience especially on such a moving occasion.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Nov 15, 2022 14:36:03 GMT
Sun song and the Mem on Saturday, what could possibly go wrong? As we've outsourced almost everything, I hope we haven't employed the buglar boy from the Torquay Derby match?
Genuine Les Dawson stuff (for those of a certain disposition). Massive respect for Remembrance Day observations. Tough match today, but probably one of the more easier of times to play Fleetwood where they haven't found their form yet. Us in contrast, have performance and results that betray our league position....but then there's nothing wrong with coming from behind, or even going unnoticed for a bit. Is it wrong to be a little confident? Gas 2-0. Probably will be one goal margin in the end. See some on the Road, and a few others in the same old place .... Hope to get back*hic!*. One day. UptheGas... Bit harsh! He started off on the wrong note (so to speak), and the first 5 seconds or so were up and down and off key, but to his credit he pulled it round and got back on track. As someone who played the bugle in the BB, in my younger days, I can say that it ain't easy. It's all down to your lips and puff. Your lips will harden over time, and they can't be too wet or too dry. No reeds to help, like other wind instruments, or values like most trumpets or cornets, to change your pitch. Then add in the large audience to play in front of (with increase pressure of being on TV), you're outside, the weather is cold, you're playing The Last Post (which you can get muddled and lost in) and then there is the occasion and poignancy itself - I wouldn't want to do it! My post was pre match and an optimistic concept. Just to put it in context....I wasn't judging our Buglar Boy. |
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Post by The Concept on Nov 15, 2022 17:17:03 GMT
Bit harsh! He started off on the wrong note (so to speak), and the first 5 seconds or so were up and down and off key, but to his credit he pulled it round and got back on track. As someone who played the bugle in the BB, in my younger days, I can say that it ain't easy. It's all down to your lips and puff. Your lips will harden over time, and they can't be too wet or too dry. No reeds to help, like other wind instruments, or values like most trumpets or cornets, to change your pitch. Then add in the large audience to play in front of (with increase pressure of being on TV), you're outside, the weather is cold, you're playing The Last Post (which you can get muddled and lost in) and then there is the occasion and poignancy itself - I wouldn't want to do it! My post was pre match and an optimistic concept. Just to put it in context....I wasn't judging our Buglar Boy. Yes, sure, I knew you were referring to the Torquay Bugler and my reply was to his playing. Moving on to the Bugler at The Mem, I thought he was pretty much spot on. The only moan about the ceremony is that people seem to have lost understanding of when it starts and ends, and what they should do. People started applauding as soon as Last Post ended (not a big sin, a nice touch, but not correct protocol), when that was point at which the minutes silence was due to start. After the minutes silence the Bugler should then sound Reveille, and then people can start to clap if they wish. It was all a bit clumsy, unfortunately. And whether or not the Bugler planned to sound Reveille he didn't get to as the referee blew his whistle and people started clapping again - this was just the start of the referee being ever so slightly whistle-happy! :-) The only way around this is in the future is for the MC to set out exactly what happens before Last Post is played. |
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Post by Bath Gas on Nov 15, 2022 19:09:53 GMT
My post was pre match and an optimistic concept. Just to put it in context....I wasn't judging our Buglar Boy. Yes, sure, I knew you were referring to the Torquay Bugler and my reply was to his playing. Moving on to the Bugler at The Mem, I thought he was pretty much spot on. The only moan about the ceremony is that people seem to have lost understanding of when it starts and ends, and what they should do. People started applauding as soon as Last Post ended (not a big sin, a nice touch, but not correct protocol), when that was point at which the minutes silence was due to start. After the minutes silence the Bugler should then sound Reveille, and then people can start to clap if they wish. It was all a bit clumsy, unfortunately. And whether or not the Bugler planned to sound Reveille he didn't get to as the referee blew his whistle and people started clapping again - this was just the start of the referee being ever so slightly whistle-happy! :-) The only way around this is in the future is for the MC to set out exactly what happens before Last Post is played. I think that the MC definitely needs to run through the order of things. There is a generation who have probably not experienced the procedures as much as I did in my youth. Not sure if schools and workplaces make a "thing" of the two minutes silence now. We didn't quite get it right, however, I still found it very moving and thought provoking. |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 16, 2022 0:56:56 GMT
My post was pre match and an optimistic concept. Just to put it in context....I wasn't judging our Buglar Boy. Yes, sure, I knew you were referring to the Torquay Bugler and my reply was to his playing. Moving on to the Bugler at The Mem, I thought he was pretty much spot on. The only moan about the ceremony is that people seem to have lost understanding of when it starts and ends, and what they should do. People started applauding as soon as Last Post ended (not a big sin, a nice touch, but not correct protocol), when that was point at which the minutes silence was due to start. After the minutes silence the Bugler should then sound Reveille, and then people can start to clap if they wish. It was all a bit clumsy, unfortunately. And whether or not the Bugler planned to sound Reveille he didn't get to as the referee blew his whistle and people started clapping again - this was just the start of the referee being ever so slightly whistle-happy! :-) The only way around this is in the future is for the MC to set out exactly what happens before Last Post is played. Frankly, people should really know. Lest we forgot is on each cenotaph yet it seems, many have |
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