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Post by kingswood Polak on Jun 5, 2023 7:39:12 GMT
Monty was viewed very dimly by the Americans and the command structure was drastically changed as he was viewed as inept, after operation Market garden. He was viewed as too slow and wasteful of soldiers lives. Our strategy on civilian lives changed, drastically, when we had “bomber” Harris take command of bombing Germany. Driving through Dresden in 1989 had me tearing up. I was very shocked. Got to disagree here KP, Montgomery was replaced by Eisenhower at the beginning of September (before Market Garden) this had been agreed before D day because the build up of American troops now meant that they outnumbered the British (and Canadians etc) so Montgomery couldnt really stay in command. He was viewed as too slow and cautious but that was because he coulnt afford to be wasteful with soldiers lives,in fact he was short of infantry for the whole NW Europe campaign,remember British troops were fighting in Italy and Burma so trained infantry were in demand. The Americans did think that he was inept in Normandy (Goodwood) and he admits that he made a mistake with not prioritising the port of Antwerp. Although the idea of Market Garden was to shorten the war the plan was dependant on XXX corps advancing up one road ! no fault of the men involved that it didnt work,it was just a poor plan. All you need to know about Harris was that his men referred to him as 'the butcher' (of aircrew) I worked with a bloke who flew in Lancasters over Germany in 1944/45 and he put me onto a few books to read on the subject. So much has been written and by different people that i do not know who to believe. I remember dad going through a book and crossing out parts and then adding his own account. I know the polish disliked him as, upon meeting Gen.Maczek, he asked what language the spoke at home. Russian or ? I will cede to your better knowledge as i only know small parts
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Post by trymer on Jun 5, 2023 13:02:04 GMT
Seems like something is happening in Ukraine,could be the start of the Ukrainian offensive.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 5, 2023 15:43:40 GMT
Seems like something is happening in Ukraine,could be the start of the Ukrainian offensive. Reports on Russian channels are saying that the Ukes have broken through the line in several places.
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Post by The Concept on Jun 5, 2023 17:38:50 GMT
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Post by The Concept on Jun 5, 2023 20:52:35 GMT
If anyone is interested, here's some youtube channels I follow on the war in Ukraine... Denys Davydov:- The best! A Ukrainian, originally from Crimea. A former airline pilot before war broke out. Records a daily update. Has a really nice friendly style, with a good sense of humour in the circumstances. Always ends his videos with "I wish you peaceful skies, wherever you're from... and ... have a great time.": www.youtube.com/@denysdavydov/videos- Also has a Telegram channel, which is updated regularly during the day, and you can view it in 'preview mode' even if you don't have a Telegram account: t.me/pilotblogJake Broe:- From USA. Was in the military in nuclear weapons. Started doing financial videos. Changed to Ukraine vlogs after the start of the war. Very measured. 3/4 videos a week. Each video around 30 mins and explains things very well: www.youtube.com/@jakebroeArtur Rehi:- Estonian who served in their army. Faster paced than most and very funny, quite a comic at times, and likeable. Occasional joint vlog podcasts: www.youtube.com/@arturrehiUkraine Matters:- A Latvian called Georgie, with a Ukrainian wife, now living in Denmark. Can get rather emotional, and potty-mouthed at times! But very entertaining. 4/5 videos a week with an extended Q&A now and again, and also some joint podcast style videos: www.youtube.com/@ukrainemattersUkraine News TV:- A chap called Jozzie, from down under somewhere. Almost a daily update. Usually 5/6 15 min videos a week. Does a fairly widespread frontline update, with some lighthearted clips: www.youtube.com/@autocracytv
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 6, 2023 5:30:39 GMT
Interesting how the video ends with a couple of F-16's.
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Post by bluetornados on Jun 6, 2023 5:44:46 GMT
Russia has blown up major Ukrainian dam, says Kyiv..Edited by Alexandra Fouchéichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/1440/cpsprodpb/C558/production/_130002505_9ac98b005377e00a8d5f129e4605c2cbc6e47e250_188_5500_30942000x1125.jpgUkraine analysing damage to major dam Jaroslav Lukivichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2023/6/6/54a14502-73cd-4304-8851-4da9a0f97695.jpgUkraine's military has accused Russian forces of blowing up a major dam in the Moscow-seized south of the country, amid fears that thousands of houses downstream will now be flooded. The military said "the scale of the destruction" of the Kakhovska Hydroelectric Power Plant on the Dnipro river was now being analysed. A Russian-installed local official said only the plant's upper was destroyed by shelling - but not the dam itself. Both claims have not been verified. The Soviet-era Kakhovska HPP is located in the city of Nova Kakhovka in Ukraine's Kherson region. The city and other areas on Dnipro's left (eastern) bank are currently under Russian occupation. What are Ukraine and Russia sayingUkraine's South Command says it is analysing the scale of the destruction to the dam, which it says Russia has blown up. But a Russian-installed local official says only the plant's upper was destroyed by shelling - but not the dam itself. Neither of the claims have been yet been verified by the BBC. Zelensky calls emergency meetingWe're hearing that Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky has called an emergency meeting of the country's National Security ad Defence Council. Oleksiy Danilov, who's secretary of the council, said on Twitter the meeting was being held "in connection with the explosion of the Kakhovsky reservoir dam".
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Post by The Concept on Jun 6, 2023 5:58:35 GMT
Those pictures of the dam are from before. Might be when it was partially damaged last November when the Russians evacuated Kherson oblast. Denys Davydov has posted a 2 minute drone video on his Telegram channel, and there isn't much left: t.me/s/pilotblog
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Post by The Concept on Jun 6, 2023 6:08:24 GMT
Interesting how the video ends with a couple of F-16's. Was thinking the same about F-16s. Take into account Stormshadow: The day after it was announced that the UK would be supplying them they were in use. They must organised this a couple of months in advance. It would have taken some time to configure the use of Stormshadow on to Soviet jets. So are F-16s coming earlier than expected? It has recently been announced that training will start, and the expectation was F-16s in use in 5/6 months. There was talk that some Ukrainian pilots were being training in the USA last summer, so could they be ready now... Personally I think September earliest, but then again the Ukrainians continue to surprise us with their innovation.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 6, 2023 7:01:33 GMT
Interesting how the video ends with a couple of F-16's. Was thinking the same about F-16s. Take into account Stormshadow: The day after it was announced that the UK would be supplying them they were in use. They must organised this a couple of months in advance. It would have taken some time to configure the use of Stormshadow on to Soviet jets. So are F-16s coming earlier than expected? It has recently been announced that training will start, and the expectation was F-16s in use in 5/6 months. There was talk that some Ukrainian pilots were being training in the USA last summer, so could they be ready now... Personally I think September earliest, but then again the Ukrainians continue to surprise us with their innovation. There is no doubt that the training of troops and supply of weapons is not as announced to the public. We know that Uke pilots are being trained on the F-16 in the US. Yesterday, the Foreign Secretary confirmed that we are training Uke personnel on the F-16. I doubt this is with the pilot's but more to do with the ground crew for maintenance/re-fueling/re-arming etc to NATO standards. Ne need to give the Russians a timeline as to when these weapon systems appear. There is no doubt in my mind that the Ukes will get F-16's and I believe they will start to appear over Ukraine very soon. Meanwhile the full-scale offensive hasn't yet started, in my opinion. I believe that we are seeing probing attacks in many areas, with the Ukes then deciding where to strike based on what those probes reveal.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 6, 2023 7:05:06 GMT
Those pictures of the dam are from before. Might be when it was partially damaged last November when the Russians evacuated Kherson oblast. Denys Davydov has posted a 2 minute drone video on his Telegram channel, and there isn't much left: t.me/s/pilotblog The videos from the Dam last night seem to indicate this was a demolition job rather than an Arty strike. Strategically this makes sense for the Russians but then again if the Ukes are as switched on as they appear to be, then I expect they would have taken this into consideration and the flooding should not affect their operational plan.
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Post by bluetornados on Jun 6, 2023 8:13:49 GMT
Ukraine says Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant is at risk..Paul Adams, Diplomatic correspondent, in Ukraine.
Ukraine has accused Russia of blowing up the dam. This seems the most logical explanation, as Russia probably feared that Ukraine would use it to get troops across the river in its latest counter-offensive.
Destruction of the dam may have other consequences.
A vital channel carrying water from the Dnipro to Russian-occupied Crimea, which starts at Nova Khakovka, is likely to be affected, as well as the nuclear power station at Zaporizhzhia, which sits on the bank of the Dnipro around 160km upstream.
In a statement this morning, Andryi Yermak, head of President Zelensky’s office, said Russia would be responsible for depriving the people of Crimea of drinking water and said Russia’s actions “pose a threat to the ZNPP” (Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant).
Situation is currently under control at nuclear plant - Ukrainian atomic company
We have this statement from Energoatom, Ukraine’s state nuclear energy generating company, about the situation at the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant (ZNPP), following destruction of the dam at Nova Kakhovka:
Quote Message: The undermining of the Kakhovska hydroelectric power plant may have negative consequences for the ZNPP, but the situation is under control. The undermining of the Kakhovska hydroelectric power plant may have negative consequences for the ZNPP, but the situation is under control.
Quote Message: On the night of 6 June 2023, the Russian invaders blew up the dam of the Kakhovska HPP [plant]. As a result of the detonation, the water level in the Kakhovskyy reservoir is rapidly decreasing, which is an additional threat to the temporarily occupied Zaporizhzhia NPP. On the night of 6 June 2023, the Russian invaders blew up the dam of the Kakhovska HPP [plant]. As a result of the detonation, the water level in the Kakhovskyy reservoir is rapidly decreasing, which is an additional threat to the temporarily occupied Zaporizhzhia NPP.
Quote Message: Water from the Kakhovsky reservoir is necessary for the station to receive power for turbine capacitors and safety systems of the ZNPP. The station's cooling pond is now full. Water from the Kakhovsky reservoir is necessary for the station to receive power for turbine capacitors and safety systems of the ZNPP. The station's cooling pond is now full.
Quote Message: As of 08:00, the water level is 16.6 metres, which is sufficient for the station's needs. Currently, the situation at the ZNPP is under control, Ukrainian personnel are monitoring all indicators. In the event of a change in the situation, Energoatom will promptly inform about the state of affairs.” As of 08:00, the water level is 16.6 metres, which is sufficient for the station's needs. Currently, the situation at the ZNPP is under control, Ukrainian personnel are monitoring all indicators. In the event of a change in the situation, Energoatom will promptly inform about the state of affairs.”
Dam destruction could have number of serious consequences
The destruction of the dam at Nova Khakovka could have serious consequences in a number of directions. Most immediately, communities downstream are now facing the possibility of widespread flooding.
The authorities in Kherson, less than 50 miles downstream, have warned residents in low lying parts of the city to evacuate as quickly as possible and seek shelter on higher ground.
There are other dangers.
The dam holds back the waters of the Dnipro, forming a vast reservoir that provides water for a host of communities upstream.
The reservoir also provides cooling water for Europe’s largest nuclear power plant, Zaporizhzhia, around 100 miles upstream.
The authorities in Kyiv say the situation at the Zaporizhzhia plant, which has been occupied by Russian troops since last year, is “under control”, but could deteriorate if the plant’s cooling pond starts to empty.
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Post by bluetornados on Jun 6, 2023 8:17:51 GMT
Verifying the footage coming from Kherson
We’ve been investigating social media videos this morning that allegedly show the aftermath of a massive breach at the Nova Kakhovska dam.
By matching visual clues - like exterior details, the layout of buildings and weather conditions in the area - we’ve been able to verify the following footage so far:
Aerial video - shared by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky - that shows significant damage to the dam
A video featuring a close-up of a destroyed building with the name of the power plant written on it
And another aerial footage - shot from another angle - showing extensive damage to the main dam structure and water flowing freely south of the facility
We have also seen at least one old video circulating on the Telegram messaging app - it shows an explosion at night time. But the video has been circulating online since November.
We are looking for more footage of the aftermath of the breach in the surrounding area and will update you when we can.
Water levels will be critical within five hours - Ukraine
Kherson's regional head Oleksandr Prokudin has accused Russia of committing "yet another act of terror".
In an urgent video message posted on social media, he warns that water levels in the Dnipro river will be "critical" within five hours.
Prokudin says evacuation of those residents living in the threatened areas on the Ukraine-controlled right (western) bank of the Dnipro river has already started.
And he also appeals to the residents on the opposite bank - currently under Russian control - to immediately leave their homes.
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Post by The Concept on Jun 6, 2023 10:05:44 GMT
Several implications for the dam... - Flooding downstream (people, houses, wildlife affected). - Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant at risk upstream - cooling problem. - Crimea - water supply potentially cut off. The North Crimean Canal carries the water supply from the Dnipro.
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Post by bluetornados on Jun 6, 2023 18:24:57 GMT
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Post by trymer on Jun 6, 2023 18:58:55 GMT
Those pictures of the dam are from before. Might be when it was partially damaged last November when the Russians evacuated Kherson oblast. Denys Davydov has posted a 2 minute drone video on his Telegram channel, and there isn't much left: t.me/s/pilotblog The videos from the Dam last night seem to indicate this was a demolition job rather than an Arty strike. Strategically this makes sense for the Russians but then again if the Ukes are as switched on as they appear to be, then I expect they would have taken this into consideration and the flooding should not affect their operational plan. I am wondering if the Ukes offensive (or part of it) was going to be in the area that is now flooded,maybe the Russians knew this and blew up the dam to stop it, but with so much misinformation we might never know....writing a history of this war will be a difficult task.
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Post by trymer on Jun 6, 2023 19:07:19 GMT
Apparently 6 of the Leopard 2 tanks from Spain were shipped to Ukraine in April,another 4 are being renovated and will be sent in the future. Denmark are sending 100 Leopards but they are the Leopard 1,they must be nearly 50 years old,I saw an article saying that Rheinmetall want all Leopard tanks to be totally rebuilt before they are sent to Ukraine.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 6, 2023 20:48:02 GMT
Apparently 6 of the Leopard 2 tanks from Spain were shipped to Ukraine in April,another 4 are being renovated and will be sent in the future. Denmark are sending 100 Leopards but they are the Leopard 1,they must be nearly 50 years old,I saw an article saying that Rheinmetall want all Leopard tanks to be totally rebuilt before they are sent to Ukraine. A Leopard 1 against infantry is still better than no tank at all. Remember, the main role of a tank is not to fight other tanks, but infantry and light vehicles.
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Post by trymer on Jun 7, 2023 12:41:54 GMT
Apparently 6 of the Leopard 2 tanks from Spain were shipped to Ukraine in April,another 4 are being renovated and will be sent in the future. Denmark are sending 100 Leopards but they are the Leopard 1,they must be nearly 50 years old,I saw an article saying that Rheinmetall want all Leopard tanks to be totally rebuilt before they are sent to Ukraine. A Leopard 1 against infantry is still better than no tank at all. Remember, the main role of a tank is not to fight other tanks, but infantry and light vehicles. Just hoping that the infantry dont have modern anti tank weapons,tbh I cant see the Leopard 1 getting much use,theyve been out of use for 20/25 years,I bet that Rheinmetall make some money out of renovating this vintage armour. Looking at pictures from Kherson area some WW2 era Buffalo,Amtrac and DUKW's would be appropriate. The area for the Ukes counter offensive is more confined due to the flooding,i should think that they can forget the line from the dam to the sea. The Ukes saying that they have advanced in the villages near Bahkmut by 200 metres to 1600 metres !
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 8, 2023 9:58:03 GMT
A Leopard 1 against infantry is still better than no tank at all. Remember, the main role of a tank is not to fight other tanks, but infantry and light vehicles. Just hoping that the infantry dont have modern anti tank weapons,tbh I cant see the Leopard 1 getting much use,theyve been out of use for 20/25 years,I bet that Rheinmetall make some money out of renovating this vintage armour. Looking at pictures from Kherson area some WW2 era Buffalo,Amtrac and DUKW's would be appropriate. The area for the Ukes counter offensive is more confined due to the flooding,i should think that they can forget the line from the dam to the sea. The Ukes saying that they have advanced in the villages near Bahkmut by 200 metres to 1600 metres ! Could it be double-edged? Places upstream that were un-crossable before because of the water are now crossable due to the water levels dropping? Unintended consequences and all that. I still believe the Ukes are probing in strength and their hammer is just poised to strike once they decide where.
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