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Post by laughinggas on May 25, 2022 21:32:24 GMT
Off to Charlton? JB gets to lock horns again, probably.
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Post by gasprom on May 25, 2022 21:50:07 GMT
Interesting to see how he does there. The first of 3 managers to perform horrifically working with Widdrington and Starnes, before the latter led us to promotion after firing them through a cannon.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2022 13:02:41 GMT
Interesting to see how he does there. The first of 3 managers to perform horrifically working with Widdrington and Starnes, before the latter led us to promotion after firing them through a cannon. Widdrington is a nice bloke etc, but should never have been within a mile of Rovers. Pal of mine at work is a Swindon supporter and said Ben had a free pass this year as nothing was expected and recruitment was all done by the DoF in any case. He went on to say that he'd be amazed if Ben makes it until Christmas before being sacked. I'm not sure and reckon he could do ok.
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Post by george on May 26, 2022 13:07:06 GMT
Well he may not be off to Charlton now.
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Post by syg on May 26, 2022 21:46:32 GMT
Charlton he has gone. Interesting how he does. Happy not Swindon.
My 1st ever haiku, with inversions. Thats what happens when you read the dummies guide to poetry and are feeling listless on a Thursday evening.
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Post by Cheshiregas on May 27, 2022 7:43:55 GMT
Charlton he has gone. Interesting how he does. Happy not Swindon. My 1st ever haiku, with inversions. Thats what happens when you read the dummies guide to poetry and are feeling listless on a Thursday evening. Haiku, sounds more like Yoda speaking.....
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 27, 2022 8:36:05 GMT
Charlton he has gone. Interesting how he does. Happy not Swindon. My 1st ever haiku, with inversions. Thats what happens when you read the dummies guide to poetry and are feeling listless on a Thursday evening. Haiku, sounds more like Yoda speaking..... I very nearly wrote something along those lines 😂
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Post by bluetornados on May 27, 2022 10:57:16 GMT
Ben Garner, Stats: 42 years old, Mentored by Jose Mourinho, Coach of Crystal Palace youth, Promoted to 1st team coach by manager Ian Holloway.
Was assistant to Holloway, Pulis, Warnock & Pardew, Assistant head coach at WBA under Pulis.
Former Gas legend Rickie Lambert described Garner as "very organised, but imaginative, and had a great understanding of players" when suggesting him as the ideal candidate for the manager job at Bristol Rovers.
While at BRFC Cian Harries and David Tutonda raved about BG saying he was a top coach and a class act.
Managerial stats at BRFC P33, W6, D10, L17 = Win Rate of 18.18 %
Managerial stats at Swindon P56, W28, D12, L16 = Rate of 50.00 %
Total...................P89, W34, D22, L33 = Win Rate of 38.20 %
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Post by syg on May 27, 2022 16:41:59 GMT
Haiku, sounds more like Yoda speaking..... I very nearly wrote something along those lines 😂 . Surprised you haven't noticed me awkwardly walking into the mem, I wear a disguise, but going straight underneath the turnstiles and my ears are quite a giveaway.
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 27, 2022 17:22:10 GMT
I very nearly wrote something along those lines 😂 . Surprised you haven't noticed me awkwardly walking into the mem, I wear a disguise, but going straight underneath the turnstiles and my ears are quite a giveaway. 🤪
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Post by baselswh on Jun 9, 2022 11:08:19 GMT
So Ben Garner gets the Charlton Athletic job.
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Post by warehamgas on Jun 9, 2022 12:04:47 GMT
Yes, confirmed so good luck to him. Charlton fans seem fairly happy with the appointment according to their forum, or at least the one I read. He’s talking about possession and exciting football which has endeared him to them. Mind you not sure which manager doesn’t talk about those things. He’ll need to transfer what he wants into results, something he couldn’t do here but he will have learnt some hard lessons with us which should help him. Lesson 1 don’t sell your top scorer then replace him with wide attackers or midfield attackers! Lesson 2 when recruiting ensure the people recruiting know what they’re doing and don’t stop recruiting after sorting out your defence and midfield. Continue to recruit strikers.
But he could do well and even our history is littered with players and managers who have done well at other places and then bombed with us or even those who were failures elsewhere but came here and were successful. Even DC must have been near leaving us after a tough start before he succeeded. Gerry F, sacked at Exeter, came here and did well. Billy Bodin, troubles elsewhere but came here and thrived. Even JCH very recently.
Past failures should never predict what happens in the future. And successful people will show determination to do well after setbacks. Good luck to him.
UTG!
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 9, 2022 12:21:29 GMT
I wish Ben Garner nothing but good luck in the future. I thought he came across as a very decent man. There were obviously health issues with someone in his family that affected him during his time with us, and that couldn't have been easy for him. As it was his first job in management he probably didn't have the power to get rid of those that Joey Barton has successfully got rid of within the club. As for selling JCH and not getting a replacement, maybe the blame lies with Widdrington over that?
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Post by rideintothesun on Jun 10, 2022 11:53:37 GMT
Situation at Swindon was apparently the exact opposite of his time at the club, with Ben Chorley (DoF) being largely responsible for the 'success' that Swindon had last season. In contrast, Widdrington and Starnes should largely be held accountable for his lack of success here.
Garner also showed class after Swindon's 3-1 victory last season, when he could quite easily have rammed JB's ill-advised (and legally actionable) comments back down his throat. Tisdale, incidentally, conducted himself with similar dignity after a 4-0 reverse.
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Post by baselswh on Jun 10, 2022 13:47:51 GMT
Situation at Swindon was apparently the exact opposite of his time at the club, with Ben Chorley (DoF) being largely responsible for the 'success' that Swindon had last season. In contrast, Widdrington and Starnes should largely be held accountable for his lack of success here. Garner also showed class after Swindon's 3-1 victory last season, when he could quite easily have rammed JB's ill-advised (and legally actionable) comments back down his throat. Tisdale, incidentally, conducted himself with similar dignity after a 4-0 reverse. BGs 'success' at Swindon. JBs success at Rovers. 😉
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Post by rideintothesun on Jun 10, 2022 14:00:04 GMT
Situation at Swindon was apparently the exact opposite of his time at the club, with Ben Chorley (DoF) being largely responsible for the 'success' that Swindon had last season. In contrast, Widdrington and Starnes should largely be held accountable for his lack of success here. Garner also showed class after Swindon's 3-1 victory last season, when he could quite easily have rammed JB's ill-advised (and legally actionable) comments back down his throat. Tisdale, incidentally, conducted himself with similar dignity after a 4-0 reverse. BGs 'success' at Swindon. JBs success at Rovers. 😉 Given that BG began the season without a first team and Swindon were tipped as lead relegation candidates, we can perhaps be kind and replace 'success' with success. At the risk of flogging a dead horse, JB will objectively be a success at the club when he delivers a top ten finish in L1. However, less demanding posters will no doubt settle for being above where we were when JB arrived - i.e. above the relegation zone. I apologize in advance to some of our more 'sensitive' posters, but I refuse to refer to promotion from L2 as success.
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Post by baselswh on Jun 10, 2022 14:02:04 GMT
BGs 'success' at Swindon. JBs success at Rovers. 😉 Given that BG began the season without a first team and Swindon were tipped as lead relegation candidates, we can perhaps be kind and replace 'success' with success. At the risk of flogging a dead horse, JB will objectively be a success at the club when he delivers a top ten finish in L1. However, less demanding posters will no doubt settle for being above where we were when JB is above where we were when he arrived - above the relegation zone. I apologize in advance to some of our more 'sensitive' posters, but I refuse to refer to promotion from L2 as success. How's it going TWD?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2022 15:41:17 GMT
Those sensitive posters that deactivate their account named after a crap moniker for an overrated karaoke singer, in exchange for one of the Velvets songs where they've tried to be The Beatles?
Right you are then.
Garner will have to do something decent at Charlton or he'll be off by Christmas. Good luck to him after his free pass this year.
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Post by rideintothesun on Jun 10, 2022 16:01:16 GMT
Those sensitive posters that deactivate their account named after a crap moniker for an overrated karaoke singer, in exchange for one of the Velvets songs where they've tried to be The Beatles? Right you are then. Garner will have to do something decent at Charlton or he'll be off by Christmas. Good luck to him after his free pass this year. Tried to be the Beatles? Come now. The Velvets were the actual innovators and true originals. The Beatles weren't even the best band of the 60s.
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Post by eppinggas on Jun 10, 2022 16:06:10 GMT
Given that BG began the season without a first team and Swindon were tipped as lead relegation candidates, we can perhaps be kind and replace 'success' with success. At the risk of flogging a dead horse, JB will objectively be a success at the club when he delivers a top ten finish in L1. However, less demanding posters will no doubt settle for being above where we were when JB is above where we were when he arrived - above the relegation zone. I apologize in advance to some of our more 'sensitive' posters, but I refuse to refer to promotion from L2 as success. How's it going TWD? rideintothesun is categorically NOT The Thin White Duke. He may share a lot of his views (as I do), that is all. I have exchanged mails with TTWD. He's doing fine. I don't think he will be back here, or at the Mem. for the foreseeable future.
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