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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 10, 2022 10:56:44 GMT
I imagine and as someone posted the stickers are the work of some young men. I don't really understand the continued support that states ' football is for everyone, including women'.I mean it's known and supported by 99% of people. Is'nt it? Is it somehow connected to the woke thing? Another bullish and unnecessary politically correct thing,backed by Labour and the BBC? For years now the BBC have supported the women's game.Fair enough,but it was completely over the top.Eg,they would give a glowing report of a top league game.You could be forgiven in thinking it was on par with eg the Manchester derby.The reality was somewhat different.Attendance not mentioned,but with abit of digging you might discover it was 225.The 8th tier of the mens game were getting bigger attendances. International games are very successful,huge attendances at Wembley for England Ladies.đ It looks like some women,backed by Labour and the BBC are insisting Ladies get the 'top jobs',as it were.As they insist in all walks of life and jobs.Well fair play for ambition but in the sporting entertainment industry,exaggerating,shouting and hollering is not enough.It is'nt enough in all jobs. Just to confirm I think it fantastic women play football.In the 'boys' team I played for,we had two girls that played too,maybe up to they were 14. You couldnât be further from the truth. It is mostly older people, of both sexes |
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 10, 2022 11:58:07 GMT
Not sure why you persist in calling the representation of an activity representing half the nations population as being âpolitically motivated.â It would be shameful if the BBC didnât do this imo. Womanâs cricket gets just as much coverage and rightly so, it is a very good product to watch. I agree with you over your last sentiment that the game should grow organically. But I would suggest that that is happening and has happened over the last 10 years and that the BBC or whatever channel is showing it has reacted to that growth and is broadcasting far more programmes because there is a greater demand as the womenâs game grows. In other words the growth of the game and the increased coverage on the BBC is organic, it is a response to the growing interest and not âpolitically motivated.â If Sky are showing more womenâs football you can be sure that it will be as a response to people wanting to see it. They are the epitome of commercial broadcasting and if they show it it will be in response to demand. (Perhaps not your demand but certainly that of many others!) UTG! Since when has Ladies football represented half of UK population? Youâve missed the point. Deliberately or whether youâve just missed the point I donât know. UTG! |
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Post by baselswh on Apr 10, 2022 12:15:34 GMT
Since when has Ladies football represented half of UK population? Youâve missed the point. Deliberately or whether youâve just missed the point I donât know. UTG! On this particular point then,what do you mean? Ladies football does'nt represent 30,000,000 women,just as eg mens archery does'nt represent 30,000,000 men. |
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Post by oldie on Apr 10, 2022 12:20:40 GMT
Since when has Ladies football represented half of UK population? Youâve missed the point. Deliberately or whether youâve just missed the point I donât know. UTG! It's not deliberate Wareham... |
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Post by baselswh on Apr 10, 2022 12:25:06 GMT
Youâve missed the point. Deliberately or whether youâve just missed the point I donât know. UTG! It's not deliberate Wareham... Go on then Oldie,what is this particular point? I mean,to promote on 'mass' eg mens archery because there are approximately 30,000,000 men in the UK,would be mad. Male or female population does'nt come into it to my mind.Demand by male or female to see the sport is what counts. |
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Post by Cheshiregas on Apr 10, 2022 12:32:21 GMT
Chesh, I am aware of the historical madness the ladies had to deal with. I dislike the ott promotion of the Ladies game. It has been very ott. The BBC are a biased woke right on organisation. That's clear to me. As a boy,I played in a team that had a couple of girls in it.Up until they were about 14. I support women playing football, as do 99% of people. The Ladies game is accepted as part 'of UK sporting furniture' and has been for sometime. What you are doing is virtue signalling when there is no need to do so. Why? Again Bas 'woke' appears to be anything that you disagree with. An insult but like the term 'Gashead' has been adopted by many who see it as a term thrown at those who feel they are trying to do the right thing in a society which is ridden with inequality that you seem to favour. Virtue signalling definition - the public expression of opinions or sentiments intended to demonstrate one's good character or social conscience or the moral correctness of one's position on a particular issue. - another insult thrown at those who try to bring about equality in society. Who want the less fortunate or those society rails against to have an equal opportunity in life. I just can't understand why old [and often many young] white males rail against anti-racism, anti-misogyny, anti-female abuse, against the poorer members of society etc. What the hell do they think they are losing? What do they fear so much? |
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Post by oldie on Apr 10, 2022 12:32:50 GMT
It's not deliberate Wareham... Go on then Oldie,what is this particular point? I mean,to promote on 'mass' eg mens archery because there are approximately 30,000,000 men in the UK,would be mad. Male or female population does'nt come into it to my mind.Demand by male or female to see the sport is what counts. There you have it folks |
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Post by Cheshiregas on Apr 10, 2022 12:36:25 GMT
It's not deliberate Wareham... Go on then Oldie,what is this particular point? I mean,to promote on 'mass' eg mens archery because there are approximately 30,000,000 men in the UK,would be mad. Male or female population does'nt come into it to my mind.Demand by male or female to see the sport is what counts. The BBC and others promote most sports. They can't afford to bid for live men's football so promote other sports, male and female. So how do you gauge what is a sport to promote. You say that attendance. Well in that case Rugby League should have been off our screens years ago. And in some cases attendances are being over taken by women's football. So is it goodbye Rugby League or cricket or snooker..... |
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Post by baselswh on Apr 10, 2022 12:36:46 GMT
Go on then Oldie,what is this particular point? I mean,to promote on 'mass' eg mens archery because there are approximately 30,000,000 men in the UK,would be mad. Male or female population does'nt come into it to my mind.Demand by male or female to see the sport is what counts. There you have it folks đ Come on,that's not an explanation. |
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Post by oldie on Apr 10, 2022 12:39:16 GMT
Chesh, I am aware of the historical madness the ladies had to deal with. I dislike the ott promotion of the Ladies game. It has been very ott. The BBC are a biased woke right on organisation. That's clear to me. As a boy,I played in a team that had a couple of girls in it.Up until they were about 14. I support women playing football, as do 99% of people. The Ladies game is accepted as part 'of UK sporting furniture' and has been for sometime. What you are doing is virtue signalling when there is no need to do so. Why? Again Bas 'woke' appears to be anything that you disagree with. An insult but like the term 'Gashead' has been adopted by many who see it as a term thrown at those who feel they are trying to do the right thing in a society which is ridden with inequality that you seem to favour. Virtue signalling definition - the public expression of opinions or sentiments intended to demonstrate one's good character or social conscience or the moral correctness of one's position on a particular issue. - another insult thrown at those who try to bring about equality in society. Who want the less fortunate or those society rails against to have an equal opportunity in life. I just can't understand why old [and often many young] white males rail against anti-racism, anti-misogyny, anti-female abuse, against the poorer members of society etc. What the hell do they think they are losing? What do they fear so much? I might suggest because their egos are so fragile, their reasoning capacity so limited, they become angry and frustrated and then take it out on those least able to confront them. |
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Post by baselswh on Apr 10, 2022 12:46:00 GMT
Go on then Oldie,what is this particular point? I mean,to promote on 'mass' eg mens archery because there are approximately 30,000,000 men in the UK,would be mad. Male or female population does'nt come into it to my mind.Demand by male or female to see the sport is what counts. The BBC and others promote most sports. They can't afford to bid for live men's football so promote other sports, male and female. So how do you gauge what is a sport to promote. You say that attendance. Well in that case Rugby League should have been off our screens years ago. And in some cases attendances are being over taken by women's football. So is it goodbye Rugby League or cricket or snooker..... I think the average crowd at top ladies football is 2300 Chesh.Spurs get a decent gate,but their 8000 or so is well above. Average in RL top division is about 9000. I'm all for promoting sport,but imo the promotion of Ladies football by the BBC was ott. Edit. SorryChesh.Those attendance figures for the Ladies is not this season,although I imagine todays figures would be similar. 2300 average is not too shabby. |
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Post by vaughan on Apr 10, 2022 12:48:05 GMT
My view is that I would like to see more girls at football, as they are not represented enough at football and the Mem specifically. To do this, there needs to be healthy attitudes, but also better facilities. I would actually like to see a separate girls / females supporters group, as it would encourage more of them to come in what is sometimes perceived as a male bastion. No political agenda. Just means to an end - increasing the support base. Are you not aware of gas girls ? They are not an official group but they have their own gatherings and such BUT itâs extreme jealousy that may have driven this, i am not sure but the one i know of, certainly goes out of her way to garner support against Caz Was not aware that it was a supporters group with a facility to enable then to come together on match days? That's what I am suggesting, if possible. |
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Post by Bath Gas on Apr 10, 2022 13:53:31 GMT
My view is that I would like to see more girls at football, as they are not represented enough at football and the Mem specifically. To do this, there needs to be healthy attitudes, but also better facilities. I would actually like to see a separate girls / females supporters group, as it would encourage more of them to come in what is sometimes perceived as a male bastion. No political agenda. Just means to an end - increasing the support base. Are you not aware of gas girls ? They are not an official group but they have their own gatherings and such BUT itâs extreme jealousy that may have driven this, i am not sure but the one i know of, certainly goes out of her way to garner support against Caz The original Gas Girls group split about 3 years ago. Some of them continued as a "group" and sponsored a player (not sure if they still do) The others do their own thing, but have stayed in touch with each other. From the people who went their separate ways (including me), I'm not aware of anybody who has been detrimental about HGT. |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 10, 2022 13:58:59 GMT
Are you not aware of gas girls ? They are not an official group but they have their own gatherings and such BUT itâs extreme jealousy that may have driven this, i am not sure but the one i know of, certainly goes out of her way to garner support against Caz The original Gas Girls group split about 3 years ago. Some of them continued as a "group" and sponsored a player (not sure if they still do) The others do their own thing, but have stayed in touch with each other. From the people who went their separate ways (including me), I'm not aware of anybody who has been detrimental about HGT. I am , sadly. I will not name as i do not need the 5h1t that comes with doing so. Been there, never again |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 10, 2022 14:00:06 GMT
Are you not aware of gas girls ? They are not an official group but they have their own gatherings and such BUT itâs extreme jealousy that may have driven this, i am not sure but the one i know of, certainly goes out of her way to garner support against Caz Was not aware that it was a supporters group with a facility to enable then to come together on match days? That's what I am suggesting, if possible. Yes, understood that. Was very informal but one person went as far as calling one a lady garden. Said sorry after lots of abuse. |
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Post by Bath Gas on Apr 10, 2022 14:11:06 GMT
The original Gas Girls group split about 3 years ago. Some of them continued as a "group" and sponsored a player (not sure if they still do) The others do their own thing, but have stayed in touch with each other. From the people who went their separate ways (including me), I'm not aware of anybody who has been detrimental about HGT. I am , sadly. I will not name as i do not need the 5h1t that comes with doing so. Been there, never again Very sad to hear that, why can't people just live and let live? We're all Gasheads at the end of the day. |
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Post by vaughan on Apr 10, 2022 15:11:40 GMT
This is rapidly turning into a bizarre thread that you could only find on a football forum.
#gameforAngasallegedly
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 10, 2022 15:14:34 GMT
This is rapidly turning into a bizarre thread that you could only find on a football forum. #gameforAngasallegedly Not necessary mate |
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Post by Curly Wurly on Apr 10, 2022 15:29:28 GMT
Whether intended or not, I think this thread shows exactly why Her Game Too is needed.
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Post by oldie on Apr 10, 2022 16:26:45 GMT
Whether intended or not, I think this thread shows exactly why Her Game Too is needed. Precisely put |
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