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Post by syg on Apr 8, 2022 18:08:02 GMT
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Post by Bath Gas on Apr 8, 2022 18:24:30 GMT
Probably seemed like a good idea to some youngster with a snout full of Charlie!
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Post by rideintothesun on Apr 8, 2022 20:21:30 GMT
Does anybody actually object to women watching or playing football? I don't think I've ever met anybody who thinks they shouldn't be allowed to?
So Tom, in this respect at least you can rest assured...your daughters already live in a world of (relative) equality.
Yes, I have encountered some mildly chavinistic comments about women doing either, but never with the deliberate intention of causing harm or offence.
People don't object to the premise that football should be free of sexism. They object to a particular political agenda being shoved down their throat and told that it is right and they have no right to think differently without being denigrated, ostracised and threatened with legal recourse.
In particular, they object to relatively privileged individuals (and most feminists are middle-class professionals) jumping on every statement or action to claim their sanctified 'victim' status.
Its interesting that the club didn't actually make a statement on Barton's 'Holocaust' debacle and unfortunately made a statement on a 'victimless crime', but jumps on this at the very first opportunity. Pretty contemptible stuff.
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Post by Icegas on Apr 9, 2022 1:21:43 GMT
Does anybody actually object to women watching or playing football? I don't think I've ever met anybody who thinks they shouldn't be allowed to? So Tom, in this respect at least you can rest assured...your daughters already live in a world of (relative) equality. Yes, I have encountered some mildly chavinistic comments about women doing either, but never with the deliberate intention of causing harm or offence. People don't object to the premise that football should be free of sexism. They object to a particular political agenda being shoved down their throat and told that it is right and they have no right to think differently without being denigrated, ostracised and threatened with legal recourse. In particular, they object to relatively privileged individuals (and most feminists are middle-class professionals) jumping on every statement or action to claim their sanctified 'victim' status. Its interesting that the club didn't actually make a statement on Barton's 'Holocaust' debacle and unfortunately made a statement on a 'victimless crime', but jumps on this at the very first opportunity. Pretty contemptible stuff. I agree with most of that. It's just box ticking imho. It's the same with BLM, the trans movement..etc and every other leftie idea in every area of society today. It's rammed down our throats and unless you completely agree with it,then you must be a bigot of some kind. I find it 'slightly' offensive that over the past 5 years or so we are forced fed the fact that female football is as big as of a game, or is equal as the male game when it's not, and it's never has been and never will be. It's crazy that females are now pushed down our throats on tv as pundits and in leading commentating roles over move experienced ex professional male players just to tick boxes. Again I'm all for the build up of the female game, and females going to matches etc.. but I'm anti anything being forced fed us to fit an agenda. I've never once come across anyone at a gas match saying anything about a woman being there, and how they should at home in the kitchen. I've never heard any other sexiest comment in regard to a woman being at a match,other then the odd wolf whistle towards a good looking woman now and then.
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Apr 9, 2022 4:28:08 GMT
Does anybody actually object to women watching or playing football? I don't think I've ever met anybody who thinks they shouldn't be allowed to? So Tom, in this respect at least you can rest assured...your daughters already live in a world of (relative) equality. Yes, I have encountered some mildly chavinistic comments about women doing either, but never with the deliberate intention of causing harm or offence. People don't object to the premise that football should be free of sexism. They object to a particular political agenda being shoved down their throat and told that it is right and they have no right to think differently without being denigrated, ostracised and threatened with legal recourse. In particular, they object to relatively privileged individuals (and most feminists are middle-class professionals) jumping on every statement or action to claim their sanctified 'victim' status. Its interesting that the club didn't actually make a statement on Barton's 'Holocaust' debacle and unfortunately made a statement on a 'victimless crime', but jumps on this at the very first opportunity. Pretty contemptible stuff. I agree with most of that. It's just box ticking imho. It's the same with BLM, the trans movement..etc and every other leftie idea in every area of society today. It's rammed down our throats and unless you completely agree with it,then you must be a bigot of some kind.
I find it 'slightly' offensive that over the past 5 years or so we are forced fed the fact that female football is as big as of a game, or is equal as the male game when it's not, and it's never has been and never will be. It's crazy that females are now pushed down our throats on tv as pundits and in leading commentating roles over move experienced ex professional male players just to tick boxes. Again I'm all for the build up of the female game, and females going to matches etc.. but I'm anti anything being forced fed us to fit an agenda. I've never once come across anyone at a gas match saying anything about a woman being there, and how they should at home in the kitchen. I've never heard any other sexiest comment in regard to a woman being at a match,other then the odd wolf whistle towards a good looking woman now and then. Well, if that's not the plaintive wail of a victim I don't know what is.
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Post by chelt_gas on Apr 9, 2022 4:32:17 GMT
Does anybody actually object to women watching or playing football? I don't think I've ever met anybody who thinks they shouldn't be allowed to? So Tom, in this respect at least you can rest assured...your daughters already live in a world of (relative) equality. Yes, I have encountered some mildly chavinistic comments about women doing either, but never with the deliberate intention of causing harm or offence. People don't object to the premise that football should be free of sexism. They object to a particular political agenda being shoved down their throat and told that it is right and they have no right to think differently without being denigrated, ostracised and threatened with legal recourse. In particular, they object to relatively privileged individuals (and most feminists are middle-class professionals) jumping on every statement or action to claim their sanctified 'victim' status. Its interesting that the club didn't actually make a statement on Barton's 'Holocaust' debacle and unfortunately made a statement on a 'victimless crime', but jumps on this at the very first opportunity. Pretty contemptible stuff. I agree with most of that. It's just box ticking imho. It's the same with BLM, the trans movement..etc and every other leftie idea in every area of society today. It's rammed down our throats and unless you completely agree with it,then you must be a bigot of some kind. I find it 'slightly' offensive that over the past 5 years or so we are forced fed the fact that female football is as big as of a game, or is equal as the male game when it's not, and it's never has been and never will be. It's crazy that females are now pushed down our throats on tv as pundits and in leading commentating roles over move experienced ex professional male players just to tick boxes. Again I'm all for the build up of the female gamek, and females going to matches etc.. but I'm anti anything being forced fed us to fit an agenda. I've never once come across anyone at a gas match saying anything about a woman being there, and how they should at home in the kitchen. I've never heard any other sexiest comment in regard to a woman being at a match,other then the odd wolf whistle towards a good looking woman now and then. It’s great how female participation in football has grown over the last decade to become the most participated sport for women. The fact that women are more visible in the football media and are shown to be equal only helps the growth of the game. Sometimes groups need a leg up to then thrive independently.
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Post by texasgas on Apr 9, 2022 7:06:59 GMT
I hope the acts of these idiots don’t put the organisers off. Big fan and supporter of what they’ve been doing with ‘Her Game Too.’
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Post by rideintothesun on Apr 9, 2022 8:23:31 GMT
I hope the acts of these idiots don’t put the organisers off. Big fan and supporter of what they’ve been doing with ‘Her Game Too.’ A question for you - has anybody ever suggested to you that it isn't 'her game too'? I genuinely haven't and actually find it difficult to even imagine circumstances in which anybody would. Its like launching a campaign to give women the vote.
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Post by rideintothesun on Apr 9, 2022 8:34:00 GMT
Does anybody actually object to women watching or playing football? I don't think I've ever met anybody who thinks they shouldn't be allowed to? So Tom, in this respect at least you can rest assured...your daughters already live in a world of (relative) equality. Yes, I have encountered some mildly chavinistic comments about women doing either, but never with the deliberate intention of causing harm or offence. People don't object to the premise that football should be free of sexism. They object to a particular political agenda being shoved down their throat and told that it is right and they have no right to think differently without being denigrated, ostracised and threatened with legal recourse. In particular, they object to relatively privileged individuals (and most feminists are middle-class professionals) jumping on every statement or action to claim their sanctified 'victim' status. Its interesting that the club didn't actually make a statement on Barton's 'Holocaust' debacle and unfortunately made a statement on a 'victimless crime', but jumps on this at the very first opportunity. Pretty contemptible stuff. I agree with most of that. It's just box ticking imho. It's the same with BLM, the trans movement..etc and every other leftie idea in every area of society today. It's rammed down our throats and unless you completely agree with it,then you must be a bigot of some kind. I find it 'slightly' offensive that over the past 5 years or so we are forced fed the fact that female football is as big as of a game, or is equal as the male game when it's not, and it's never has been and never will be. It's crazy that females are now pushed down our throats on tv as pundits and in leading commentating roles over move experienced ex professional male players just to tick boxes. Again I'm all for the build up of the female game, and females going to matches etc.. but I'm anti anything being forced fed us to fit an agenda. I've never once come across anyone at a gas match saying anything about a woman being there, and how they should at home in the kitchen. I've never heard any other sexiest comment in regard to a woman being at a match,other then the odd wolf whistle towards a good looking woman now and then. Its not just that. Think of the terrible circumstances that women find themselves in across the world - sex trafficking, forced marriage, domestic violence etc. All very bad. But clearly pales into insignificance when considered against the horror of all-male panels on football shows or the factual observation that more people are interested in men's football than women's football. Almost everybody supports women's equality. Clearly they aren't obliged to support (largely) middle-class feminists trying to shove their peculiar hobby-horses down people's throats. ...or perhaps they are?
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Post by syg on Apr 9, 2022 8:50:51 GMT
Ahhhh lovely. Never thought a football forum would be a place for relief from a world gone mad. Thanks.
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Apr 9, 2022 9:08:32 GMT
Imagine being the kind of person who wakes up in the morning just itching to say something contrary, because it upsets people who don’t like racism or treating women as lesser humans. Imagine being that desperate to be out of date?
Some cracking examples on this thread. Give your heads a massive wobble.
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Post by a more piratey game on Apr 9, 2022 9:40:43 GMT
I've never heard any other sexiest comment in regard to a woman being at a match,other then the odd wolf whistle towards a good looking woman now and then. sexiest comment? the one I remember is at an away match, where a good-looking male trainee from the opposition with floppy blond hair walked past the away fans during the warm-up. He was minding his own business, but flicked his hair (a la Tommy Nichols). That got a few wolf whistles from the Rovers fans, to which he responded with a broad smile. Then someone, inevitably, shouted 'get yer knob out' sexist? sexiest? I dunno, but much amusement all round
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Post by toteend3 on Apr 9, 2022 10:07:47 GMT
The subject of woman’s football led to me being ‘red carded’ from the Snowflake mafia forum. I made a point that woman’s football would get more supporters if they played in hockey style skirts rather than mens shorts. It was not sexist’ but just staring a ‘matter of fact because it’s true!
I also commented that woman’s Beach Volleyball attendance’s would collapse if they played in boiler suits!
What is also a real positive there seems to be a woman’s match on normal tv most days, and yesterday , me and er in doors’ along with two daughters watched Englands lionesses muller North Macedonia 10 - 0. Undoubtedly the woman’s game has come on leaps and bounds in recent years and yesterday’s interplay and pressing was to a really good level.
I would say that the hardest position to cover in the woman’s game is the goalkeeper that is their ‘Achilles Heel’ at present and yesterday’s opponents with a half decent keeper would have kept the score down considerably.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Apr 9, 2022 10:16:17 GMT
I hope the acts of these idiots don’t put the organisers off. Big fan and supporter of what they’ve been doing with ‘Her Game Too.’ A question for you - has anybody ever suggested to you that it isn't 'her game too'? [1] I genuinely haven't and actually find it difficult to even imagine circumstances in which anybody would. [2] Its like launching a campaign to give women the vote. [1] Are you female? If you aren't then you don't know what it's like to hear the sexist remarks. As a male I don't know what it's like to have to put up with misogyny at football games and probably am oblivious at times to the remarks made about females. The fact that the Gas girls who helped start the campaign felt they had to do so is a statement in itself. The fact that they have also received online abuse and now these pathetic stickers at the ground should speak volumes to you. That they don't shows that you have no understanding of what women have to go through or the empathy to even try to understand. And using the opportunity to have a go at people who care about race as well only shows how little you seem to know about prejudice in society. Very sad. [2] I suppose you think women having the vote is a bad thing then.....
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Post by eppinggas on Apr 9, 2022 10:21:08 GMT
The subject of woman’s football led to me being ‘red carded’ from the Snowflake mafia forum. I made a point that woman’s football would get more supporters if they played in hockey style skirts rather than mens shorts. It was not sexist’ but just staring a ‘matter of fact because it’s true! I also commented that woman’s Beach Volleyball attendance’s would collapse if they played in boiler suits! What is also a real positive there seems to be a woman’s match on normal tv most days, and yesterday , me and er in doors’ along with two daughters watched Englands lionesses muller North Macedonia 10 - 0. Undoubtedly the woman’s game has come on leaps and bounds in recent years and yesterday’s interplay and pressing was to a really good level. I would say that the hardest position to cover in the woman’s game is the goalkeeper that is their ‘Achilles Heel’ at present and yesterday’s opponents with a half decent keeper would have kept the score down considerably. UTGUB Not even a yellow card here. But perhaps a quiet word from the ref in your ear. I don't see a problem with the Rovers press release.
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Post by irenestoyboy on Apr 9, 2022 10:54:44 GMT
If you read some of the comments that not just the HGT team have had aimed at them prior to them starting this campaign as well as since I think you’ll find that some comments go way beyond mild chauvinistic banter.
One female fan on Twitter a week or so back posted some comments from one Neanderthal the other that he hoped she got raped. I mean, wth is that about?
That’s just not women being over sensitive, that’s just plain repugnant.
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on Apr 9, 2022 10:56:27 GMT
Probably seemed like a good idea to some youngster with a snout full of Charlie! Judging by some of the replies on here equally likely to be someone stale male and pale well north of 50
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Post by a more piratey game on Apr 9, 2022 11:14:38 GMT
we all know that there's nowt so queer as folk, but does anyone know who's behind these stickers and why they are doing it? I'm finding it a bit baffling
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Post by baselswh on Apr 9, 2022 11:25:12 GMT
I think Rovers Ladies should fill the squad with trans ladies.
They seem to be very good at sport indeed.
Imagine Alania Warboys upfront with Paula Randall eg.
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Post by eppinggas on Apr 9, 2022 11:46:50 GMT
If you read some of the comments that not just the HGT team have had aimed at them prior to them starting this campaign as well as since I think you’ll find that some comments go way beyond mild chauvinistic banter. One female fan on Twitter a week or so back posted some comments from one Neanderthal the other that he hoped she got raped. I mean, wth is that about? That’s just not women being over sensitive, that’s just plain repugnant. I hope the Club can track down these idiots and ban them. Disgusting.
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